Yes, yes, I did say that I would do Jason next but then Allgirlstreehouse recommended that I do a defence of Frank and I went a-hate searching. Guess what?
THERE IS A HATE THREAD FOR FRANK.
Honestly, I am SICK of this! The founder proudly proclaimed that they hated Frank as if they deserved a medal for it and you know what? Let's start our defence off with some criticism of quotes because I am honestly so mad.
1. Let's start a hate thread on Frank and cyber-bully a fictional character and wish death on him because we can't discuss our opinions in a mature and civilised manner!
'This selfish little (well, BIG) ogre breaks his grandmother's tea sets, kills cute basilisks, and guilts pretty zombies into dating him So let's all express our hate for Frank Zhang, together!'
PURE AND UTTER RAGE. This is only part of the first comment, so I'm going to try and be very calm.
The tea set? Frank was grieving. How about I kill a beloved family member of yours and see how you cope? People throw things and smash things when they're mad. Harry smashed Dumbledore's stuff. Frank shot down his grandmother's stuff. They. Were. Grieving. His grandmother didn't care because she knew he was grieving. If he'd broken the set to be a brat then she'd be pissed.
Kills cute basilisks? That one NEARLY made me laugh. See what I mean about coming up with the most ridiculous reasons to hate someone? Those basilisks wanted to KILL Frank and his friends and they were NOT cute or friendly. I don't know about you but I'd rather kill a deadly creature to stay alive rather than say, "Sorry, the fans will hate me if I kill it, even though my life's in danger, so goodbye cruel world!"
Guilt a pretty zombie into dating him? Where in any book did Frank guilt Hazel in any way? Hazel fell for Frank on his own merits and only delayed in getting together with him because it was what everybody expected. More on this later, believe me. Oh and hon? Hazel isn't a zombie because she isn't mindless and rotting and dancing like Michael Jackson, m'kay?
'Yay! I'm part of a club! I feel so special ;) Now let's talk trash about Frank Zhang! I mean a Son of Mars? What's the deal with that?'
NO. FREAKING. COMMENT. Apart from the fact that Frank being a son of Mars offered a different perspective to demigod children of the war god – the children of Ares are generally wilder and more brutal and the children of Mars are generally more disciplined and militaristic. And it also showed that children of Ares/Mars weren't necessarily all about blood and guts and hacking – Frank used a bow instead of a sword and wasn't one for unnecessary bloodshed, apart from HoH when he had to earn his father's respect!
'Yeah! I totally understand why Mars didn't claim Frank until he was 16! I mean, would you? I would wait… sit patiently… Wait. He's dead? That's too bad. What? Did I know about him? Pfft… *bad acting* Nooo!'
*says nothing…just explodes*
*Frank pops in* Erm…Puffy will be back in a little while, as soon as she puts herself together again. Should I get Nico to come help, or…?
*Puffy reforms* No, I'm fine. You can go, Frank. Right. Onto the next quote.
'why couldn't he have been a son of apollo then just sent off on a quest to annoy the hunters, then they turn him into a frog, then it's done! Oh, wait *sarcastic tone* he can TURN INTO FREAKING ANIMALS. What's with that? Is he like an advanced chameleon? Like wtf why can't he at least be NORMAL?! Gods...
*sarcastic tone* Maybe the fact that he was a son of Mars and not Apollo was indicative of the saying that your personality and talents, your godly parent does not necessarily make. Just because Frank is a son of Mars doesn't mean that he HAS to be excellent with a sword, just like the fact that because Piper is a daughter of Aphrodite doesn't mean that she HAS to be a girly, bitchy heart-breaker. You don't HAVE to conform to your godly parent's stereotypes and THAT was the message Uncle Rick was trying to convey. Incidentally, I notice that the characters that seem to get the most hate are those who don't conform to their parent's stereotype or are at odds with them (Piper with Aphrodite, Frank with Mars, Jason with losing respect for Jupiter and identifying with Zeus and the Greeks more). If you don't conform and dare to be a different person, you're hated. Just let that simmer for a little while.
And about the animal thing: NORMAL? He's a demigod. They don't do normal. I laugh in the face of your desire for normality in a world of gods and abnormality.
'Anyways, I will stab Frank to death. GIMME A PITCHFORK!'
I believe I covered the whole 'wishing death on a fictional character' thing in Piper's defence. Just thought I'd throw this in here to raise blood pressures.
'But I could go other, poke him, and he would begin to blubber.'
*lightly* You know, all I'm going to say is that people picked on Neville Longbottom and called him a weak baby and look where he is now. Just something to keep in mind…
'Ohh can I join? This is quite entertaining and I hate him to! :D haha but I thought Rick could of made a better character than Frank for the big 7 and I thought the whole animal thing made no sence and it's just like all of a sudden "OHH I CAN TURN INTO A COW!" Percy: "QUICK! Someone grab him so we can use him as food!"
I'm fairly certain that Frank was there to represent the people that didn't think that they were good enough and that we all have the potential to be great, we just have to unlock it (e.g. NEVILLE FREAKING LONGBOTTOM). Also, I highly doubt that Percy would willingly kill a friend to use as food, even if they were starving and Frank did look delicious.
'Frank: Awww come on! Why do you guys hate me! Hazel: I like you frank, but onl because you have canadian Bacon in your flub sacks! Piper: Ohhhh BURN! Even the love of your life doesn't love you'
I…I'm so sorry, Frank. You don't deserve this. I believe that I addressed the whole 'making characters act OOC (in this case, Hazel and Piper) and the way you want them to just to hate on a character or glorify them' back in chapter 7 of my Piper defence. Let's just say that if I go into it again, I am liable to explode again.
'I actually know exactly why Hera chose frank. She's probably still sending cow droppings after Annabth so she probably chose the closest cow to follow her, so of course frank is now 1 of the seven.'
*gestures viciously to my above comment, save the author bias part*
'No… I see it, too… Does… SOMEONE LIKES FRANK! HOLY HEPHAESTUS !'
Incidentally, this comment came after someone tried to DEFEND Frank and, like the Piper defender, was ridiculed and laughed at even after she threatened to report this thread for hating on a character and was laughed at again (I know it was a she because she said she wanted to marry Frank). What is so FUNNY about hating on a character? It's just one small step away from hating on real people and then the next thing you know, you've got a person's blood on your hands as you protest your innocence and say, "Well, I didn't know that they would kill themselves! Frank Zhang never did, even though he's totally fictional and can't fight back and be affected like a real person!"
Also, the guy who wrote this comment named himself after Leo. Who would NEVER DO THIS, no matter how much of a rivalry he may have had with Frank. I find this sickening and I want to hug Leo and apologise to him for the guy who took his name and is pretending to be him to hate on someone else.
That's all I can say without exploding again.
'You're avoiding my question! Why are you on a Frank hating site? Were you looking for people that hate Frank and bullying them into apologizing?! You HATER!'
Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pot, meet kettle.
'GET OFF THIS FORUM! NOBODY EVEN LIKES YOU!'
Directed at the Frank defender but I had to throw this in because this COMPLETELY and NICELY proves my point of how it's only one tiny step from fictional characters to bullying real people. And they started picking on her after she asked them WHY they hated Frank. She didn't go there and start slamming and hating them. Again, fictional to real is only a tiny step. The internet is excellent at dehumanising people and presenting them as just another profile or commenter.
'Now I am off to write about crushing Frank's heart.'
*FURIOUSLY POINTS TO AUTHOR BIAS RANT*
'I know Frank Zhang never offended anybody, but I am a Lazel shipper and this is just a light way to joke around about it.'
'I only joined this forum to have fun and joke around about a FICTIONAL character. I don't see what all the fuss is about when someone is defending the character to a great length…'
'And just because we're saying stuff about him on this forum when again he's FICTIONAL does not mean that you can assume that we are the kind of people that would pick on kids at school or gossip about overweight kids in real life.'
'So thank you miss ray of sunshine to come pounding down here thinking that we're bullies. And I HATE bullies and I'd rather not have people accuse me of being one thank you very much.'
'And I get if you wanna make a group about the character you don't like and say all the things you hate about it, it's not like this character is real so go for it! (if it was a real person, that's a different story…).'
*stares at above comments*
*just…explodes*
*reforms* O-Ok. I'm good. These comments are actually AFTER the next ones underneath but I read the whole thread (which was closed after some anti-Frank-haters came and hated on the Frank haters and it just turned into one massive mess of hate) and…well, you'll thank me for doing these ones first.
LIGHT WAY? You call this LIGHT? THIS IS FUCKING BULLYING! I just LOVE how they defended themselves by saying 'Oh, I'd never bully anyone in real life! Don't call me a bully! I'm just hating on Frank because he's fictional and I won't suffer any legal repercussions because he doesn't exist!' The internet dehumanises people to profiles and commenters, so I actually DO believe that these people would bully real people because they'd just be another profile! You'd rather not have people accuse you of bullying? THEN DON'T FUCKING BULLY! Someone called them out on picking on Frank because he's overweight and they were quick to respond and say 'Oh, I'd never set up a forum to hate on a real person who was overweight! I'm just kidding around with Frank because he's fictional!' *holds gun to Frank's head) We're just kidding, aren't we?
Ok, I added that last bit with the gun in, but you know you were getting that impression.
You joined to have fun? Why do we defend Frank? Well, maybe because some of us can identify with him because we're also rather large and awkward and outcasts! Did you ever stop to think that maybe someone might take this personally? I can't say any more on this or I'll explode prematurely before the last comments and I can only explode and reform so many times.
Fuck this world.
'*Goes on rant about how much I hate Frank aka overfed, fat, pimply, babyish, whining buffalo*'
and
'I hope it's Hazel/Leo and then Frank goes and kills himself, or something like that…'
Ok…the other points I could barely tolerate (apart from above)…but these? I'm sorry. I've tried to stay calm and rational and above their level, I really have, but…
*swells*
HOW MUCH CRUELLER CAN YOU GET? DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE KILLED THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TAUNTED ABOUT THEIR APPEARANCE AND CALLED FAT AND TOLD TO GO OFF THEMSELVES? AND YOU'RE JUST CASUALLY LAUGHING BECAUSE HE'S STOCKY AND ALREADY INSECURE AND THINKING THAT YOU'RE JUST SOOOOO COOL AND FUNNY WHEN, IF FRANK WAS REAL, YOU'D BE ROTTING IN JAIL FROM BULLYING! ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF YOUR CARELESS 'HUR HUR, I'M SO FUNNY THIS IS JUST LIGHT JOKING!' COMMENTS ARE GOING TO KILL SOMEONE! I'VE GONE THROUGH BODY INSECURITIES AND IT'S NOT FUNNY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TELL SOMEONE TO GO AND KILL THEMSELVES BECAUSE THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT THEM, AND HONESTLY THIS HIT A NERVE AND I JUST GRAAAAAGGHHHHHHHH
*explodes again*
*Frank peeks in again* Um, Puffy wants to say that she couldn't add any more comments for fear of her health and to 'tune in for point two right after she goes and deflates from all of this Frank hate.' *pops back out*
~ Puffy
