Aside from Epilog Two:
Girl Talk/Boy Talk

Part 2
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After an awkward silence, Lizzie dared to speak. "So, how long did it take you to talk to Larry about what he said about his feeling that first time?"

Parker recognized her attempt to move on to happier thoughts, and silently thanked her. "It took awhile. I finally felt up to it late February."

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"You waited two months? And I thought three days was hard." Matt remarked.

"It took that long just to talk about how I felt." Larry pointed out. "She agreed to start seeing me, but she didn't say 'I love you' until just before spring break."

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The two conversations, while not identical, had been very similar. At this point, however, the two conversations took different courses. In the bedroom, Parker was continuing to talk about how she and Larry's relationship developed.

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"We both tried to move slow. I was still a bit scared, and he didn't want to push me. But with the way we felt for each other, it was inevitable. The first weekend of that summer break, my parents decided to celebrate their anniversary someplace where they didn't have to worry about a kid interrupting, and Maddy was staying at a friend's house for a weekend long sleep over. I don't know what Larry told his parents, but he came over as soon as I called to say the house was empty, and he stayed all weekend." Parker giggled. "About the only moments of that weekend we weren't making love were to sleep, eat, and use the bathroom."

Kate looked stunned by that revelation. The other two had heard her talk about her first time a couple of times before, but she'd never made that particular statement before. "Wait," Miranda cut in, "I know that the comedy routine about guys going limp right away isn't true, but all weekend?!?"

Parker laughed at that, and all three of the other girls quickly joined her. Even Lizzie laughed, unconsciously ignoring the fact that Miranda's comment could only have come from experiences with Matt.

"Miranda!" Parker said through her laughter. "I didn't mean it like that! Don't you remember? When I talk about Larry and me, I count everything past second base as part of our love making. When he couldn't stay hard, we did other stuff 'til he was up again."

"And trust somebody with more experience, Miranda, when I tell you that guys often do go limp after they're done." Kate offered.

"Larry and I were doing some research on the net when we found some stuff that explains it." Parker began to explain. "There are two things about guys and sex that are almost directly related to his age. How long he can hold off before he cums, and how likely it is he can stay hard after." Kate looked shocked. "Oh, I'm sorry Kate, I didn't think you'd mind my using that language."

"I don't mind, I just didn't expect to hear it from you."

"Kate," Lizzie responded, "trust me, when it's just the girls talking about boys, Parker's usually the worst of us."

"Hey!" Another round of laughter. "Anyway, according to what we found, the older a guy is, the longer he tends to last. Probably because they've found ways of controlling themselves enough to try to wait for us. Meanwhile, it's like boys our age are on a constant hair trigger!" She shifted to a shy voice. "At least, they are for the first one." That cut off the beginnings of giggles from Lizzie and Miranda. She shifted back to hear normal voice. "The other part of it works in the other direction. While the younger guys are more likely to have their first cum quickly, they're also more likely to be able to stay hard, or at least not go completely limp before getting it back." Back to her sly voice. "Especially if you continue to stimulate them."

After the round of giggles Parker's last remark got, Kate gave her own input. "And that fits with my experiences. Of course, more likely still isn't a guarantee. But it's something worth trying for, since when you do get a round two, it always lasts longer." Kate noted the complete lack of surprise that last sentence got from both Lizzie and Miranda, then turned to face Parker. "But Parker, after that weekend, how were you able to walk? I mean, I know he wasn't your first, but to spend that much time with somebody as big as Larry is plunging . . ."

"WHAT?!?" Lizzie and Miranda exclaimed. They had both been surprised by the phrase 'as big as Larry'.

Parker looked like she was desperately trying to maintain control. "How do you know?" Her voice was measured, but her words were clipped.

Kate realized her blunder, and quickly explained. "There are peepholes in the boys' showers. I'm sorry, I assumed you all knew about them."

"I'd heard rumors," Parker admitted, looking relieved, "but I figured that's all they were."

"They're real." Kate confirmed. "And just so you know, between the guys I've been with, the guys I've seen through those holes, and what I've been told by other girls, I have a good idea about the size of almost every guy at school. And Larry is one of the biggest."

"No way!" Miranda exclaimed, then she saw the look on Parker's face. "I'm sorry Parker, but I never would have guessed that Larry was . . ."

"Hung like a horse?" Parker interrupted. The girls laughed at her choice of phrase. "It's true. And I was sore, but Ethan isn't exactly small, and having him for my first probably helped in that."

"Parker, I can't believe I'm going to ask but . . . how big is he?" Lizzie asked.

"Why?" Parker tried to act suspicious. The look on Lizzie's face told her it had worked. "I'm kidding! Okay, I'll tell, but only if you all share, too."

Kate and Lizzie thought about it, and agreed. "I'm not so sure that's a good idea." Miranda said.

"Don't worry about me." Lizzie said. "I'll plug my ears and close my eyes." She and Miranda had come to an understanding so that Miranda could talk to Lizzie about her relationship with Matt so long as she didn't get too detailed in describing Matt's body. So far, Miranda had only messed up twice, both of those when Miranda got caught up in Lizzie talking about Gordo.

"I know but . . . I've told you before how Matt's worried that a "little kid" wouldn't be able to please me when we finally have sex." She said 'little kid' as if the words were soaked in lemon brine. She turned her head to the other two. "No matter how many times he brings me off with his fingers, his mouth, or both, he's still worried about it." Her exasperation was plain to all of them.

"Miranda," Kate said, "guys almost never have the right idea of how their size compares to others. While they usually think they're bigger than they really are, I've known guys before who underestimated themselves."

"Here's something that might help." Parker said cheerfully. "That research we found also included data like what the average size for an adult cock is. Between 7 and 5 inches. So, want to tell us how he measures up to that?"

Miranda thought for a moment, then glanced at Lizzie, who took the look as her cue to cover her ears and close her eyes. Miranda began to smile. "I can't wait to tell him those averages, Parker. Should make him feel better about himself." Both Parker and Kate's expression told Miranda that she'd gotten them curious. "He's still got at least one major growth spurt left, and he only just got the first hints of peach fuzz on his face this month, yet he's already got six inches."

"You're kidding! Already." Kate exclaimed, cutting off Parker. "It's different from guy to guy, but if he's already that big, he might make double digits before he's done." She gained a sly smile. "You do seem to attract the big ones." The earned her curious looks from both Miranda and Parker. "Well, Matt's probably going to be, and your ex-boyfriends include two of the biggest in the school. Larry . . . and Brett."

"WHAT?!?" Miranda hollered out loud. Embarrassed, she lowered her voice. "You're telling me that giant asshole's also a giant prick!"

The girls snickered at the double meaning of her word choice. "Explains why Clair hasn't dumped him yet." Parker mused.

"She probably needs something that big just to feel anything." Kate's comment caused the two listeners to snicker even more. Kate, however, was starting to feel guilty about Lizzie being left out. "Let's bring Lizzie back into this." Miranda shook Lizzie's shoulder. "It's safe now" she said as Lizzie unplugged her ears.

"You're okay with Miranda talking with us about your brother like that?" Parker asked, silently kicking herself for not asking that before.

"It's a little weird to think that you guys now know how big my brother's . . . how big he is." Lizzie admitted with a blush. "But we all talk about boys like that. It wouldn't be fair to Miranda to try to stop her completely. But I'm his sister, I shouldn't know those things about him. So she should have somebody else she can talk like that with."

"And I'm not telling every girl I chat with." Miranda added. "Just my friends." She made a point to look directly at Kate. "My two best friends . . . who aren't his sister." She said those last four words in a jesting tone, but the import of what that statement really meant was lost on no one.

"Thanks." Kate said. "But now that Lizzie's back, do we continue?"

"Yes." Lizzie declared. "I'll go first, since it was my question that started this." She took a breath. "Now, I haven't put it up to a ruler, but . . ."

"You've held it in your hand, right?" Kate asked.

"Yeah." Lizzie said, clearly wondering what Kate was up to.

Kate leaned over to the night stand nearest her, and reached in. She pulled out a cloth tape measure of the kind used in sewing. "Use this, and your memory of how it looked in your hand." Lizzie accepted it with a chuckle.

"You keep a tape measure in your night stand?" Parker asked, being the only one there who hadn't known the reason.

"I'm trying to learn how to sew from this book." Kate leaned again, getting the book sitting on top of the night stand, and handing it to Parker. "I'm not very good yet." Kate let go a derisive snort. "Actually, I'm terrible."

Parker recognized the book. She had tried, and failed, to teach herself to sew. This had been one of the three titles she had tried. "If you figure it out, maybe you can teach me." Parker said/asked.

"Sure." Kate replied

While that was going on, Lizzie had been measuring as Kate had suggested. "If I did this right, then he's about eight inches."

"That's still above average." Parker remarked.

"Not bad for somebody who's barely average height, right Parker?" Lizzie's tone made that an obvious joke, although the reference was true, as Gordo now stood 5' 6".

"Hey!" Parker played along, pretending to be insulted. "Give me some credit! Height isn't such a big deal for me anymore. Larry's only 5 foot 7."

"I'll go next." Kate said, breaking up the play fight. "Because Parker's news should be saved for last." Parker's smile only got the other two more curious. "I have measured him recently, and Ethan comes in at 9 inches."

"Wow," Parker remarked first, "in the year-and-a-half since I was with him, he's gained over an inch."

"Boys grow." Kate observed simply, though making pointed eye contact with Miranda. Then she turned to Parker. "And speaking of growing, it's your turn."

"I guess so." Parker agreed. "It's been a while since I actually measured him, though. May I use that?" She pointed to the tape measure that Lizzie was still holding. Lizzie handed it to her. "Thanks." The girls watched her as still did this, noting that she was putting both hands around it. "Okay," she finally pronounced, "I'd say he's about 13 inches now."

"What?!?" Lizzie and Miranda exclaimed, both barely able to keep their voices down.

"Now you know why I was surprised she could walk after that weekend." Kate remarked.

"No kidding." Lizzie agreed, then she shook her head. "Parker, you sure know how to get us going on stuff like this. I can just imagine Gordo's face if he knew I'd told you guys how big he is."

"And you don't think those boys are going to talk about things that we'd be embarrassed about? I fully expect Larry to regale them with some story involving us having sex. Why should they have all the fun?"

"I guess that makes sense." Lizzie said. At the sound of a groan to her right, she turned to Miranda. "What's wrong?"

"I hope Matt doesn't mention the webcams."

"Miranda!"

"Calm down, Lizzie, and I'll explain." Miranda said quickly, trying to cut off whatever Lizzie's assumption might be. "Matt's been calling me every night, to see if I'm okay. You know, no chance for a nightmare."

Lizzie shook her head. "I'm a little surprised you two don't argue more about all that. I mean, doesn't it sometimes feel like he's smothering you?" Lizzie thought she knew Miranda well enough to know that she wouldn't normally take to the smothering kind of attention.

"He's gotten better about most of it. But checking on me at night helps him, too, so I'm fine with it."

"Miranda," Kate cut in, sounding eager and annoyed, "the webcams?"

"Right." Miranda said. "Lizzie, do you remember how that computer Matt was handed down last year has that webcam?"

"Yeah." Lizzie answered, nodding. When their parents decided that they needed to get a new computer for the family office last year (A/N: The one that Matt used in chapter 18), Lizzie got the old family computer, and Matt got hers. His old one had become so frustrating with it's freezing and crashing that he'd already come very close to chucking it out the window. So he didn't object to this hand-me-down computer, as it was still more stable than his old heap. Lizzie now remembered that it had a cheap little webcam that came with it, but she'd given up on trying to make it work.

"Well, I picked up a webcam for mine. Then we got Gordo to set them up so they could be used like video phones so we can see each other when he calls." Lizzie looked like she saw where this story was leading. "We promised not to lie to each other, but sometimes we don't want to tell the whole truth. But we can't hide it well enough to keep the other from seeing it on our face, even over webcams."

"That's not so embarrassing." Parker pointed out. "And not what I thought you were going to say."

Miranda was looking even more uncomfortable after that comment. "Well, one night when he called, I was still changing for bed. But since he's already seen me naked more when once, I didn't think it was any reason to not answer. But Matt is still a teenage boy. And one thing led to another . . ."

"You're having phone sex . . . video phone sex with my brother?!?"

"Actually," Parker said through her giggles, "I'm going to see if I can get Larry to set that up for us. And you," she pointed to Lizzie, "should ask Gordo to set it up for you two."

Lizzie expression quickly changed from indignation to intrigue at that idea. "You really think he would? After what happened in his living room?"

All three of the other girls smiled and nodded. "He's a boy, and he loves you." Parker said. "Of course he would."

"And he's the one who set Matt and me up with a webphone program that scrambles the calls so only computers with that program and the right password can see or hear them. There's no reason he can't do that for you."

"I wish we had something like that. Anything would be better than the way it is right now." She sighed. "I'm willing to be sore for a while if I could get Larry in bed again." Parker remarked.

"What do you mean 'if'? You guys aren't having problems, are you?" Miranda asked.

"Not the kind you mean, at least not anymore. For a while after Jacob, Larry didn't even try to get physical with me. At first, I was grateful, because I wasn't ready for that. But two months later, he still wouldn't try to do more than kiss me! I finally talked to him about it, but that turned into an argument about how he still feels guilty about getting me pregnant in the first place. It took awhile, but we finally came to an understanding, and he was finally willing to do more. But by then, my parents were keeping such close watch on me, that we've barely had room for private conversations, much less anything else."

"No offence, Parker, but does it really surprise you that they're watching you so closely?" Lizzie asked.

Parker looked rueful. "No, it doesn't. But it's so frustrating! It's been nearly four months. I swear, I'm tempted to march right into that room and screw him silly, whether we have an audience or not."

"PARKER!"

"What? They're guys. They'd probably like the show." She chuckled at the look on Lizzie's face. "I wouldn't really do that, you know. But I've got to do . . . something."

"I was thinking about something else." Kate said.

Something in Kate's tone told Parker her concern. "When my system straightened out, my mom got me on the pill. Dad wasn't happy, but I think it was an argument they already had, because he didn't try too hard to say no."

The look in Kate's eyes reminded Lizzie and Miranda of Matt's schemer look.