Roxy: "Yeah. It's working so good she says her phone hasn't stopped ringing since she walked out. She's been offered more creative control, more money, her own week running RAW and better merchandising. She says they want her back so damn bad they can taste and smell her."
Dean: "Then why the hell drag it out? She's already getting what she wants out of them."
Roxy: "Because she's not going to tell them anything until her contract actually expires and she can go somewhere else. I know how she's playing this. She did the same thing at CZW and at ROH before this. She plays them up and if they stop calling, she goes on to the next big thing. In this case, WWE got a hold of her after ROH. She didn't mention if anyone else was offering her a better contract or a better character."
Madison: "She wouldn't tell you that because she's not allowed to go outside of WWE for at least 30 days after her contract expires and I think all that was void when she walked out after Smack Down and said she was done."
Dean: "And again, why drag it out? She wanted a fresh start and now she's got one. Maybe she wants to be more physical and WWE isn't enough for her. Lucha Underground is more athletic and allows the women to fight the men equally without dumbing down their abilities or strength."
Roman: "That's easy. She's making more money at WWE. She won't make half that money at Lucha. I can guarantee it."
Madison: "Not necessarily. When we all signed on here we put in our contracts that we own our names and images. So, everything that is related to us belongs to us and all the revenue goes to us. So, even if we quit WWE we can still continue to use our brand anywhere we choose and make money. Jess still owns the copyrights to all of her merchandise and her likenesses. So, she could take that whole Phoenix thing and be reborn and soar no matter where she lands."
Roxy: "Yeah, but WWE is going to make sure there is a good smoldering pile of ash first. She's going to have hell trying to make that stand in a court of law. I'm sure there are tons of loopholes in the contract that says she can't use anything WWE related."
Madison: "The Rocker image has always been hers since day one. They can't say anything about that. I don't care if you can drive a roller coaster through the loops in the contract. It's legally signed and copyrighted to Jess."
Roxy: "Think like a McMahon, Maddie. Yes, she owns The Rocker image and all the Rocker merchandise and The Rocker likeness. That was signed in her contract and agreed upon. We were both present and can bear witness to that. Hell, you can bear witness that she had it at ROH and I can bear witness that she had it in CZW. But, anything she made with The Phoenix image on it or likeness on it was not discussed in any contract signing. WWE can lay claim to it and keep it."
Madison: "And how the hell do you figure that? She came out one time with the Phoenix and she had one shirt that she personally wore and I haven't seen it anywhere on any merchandise site. She hasn't marketed or even pitched the idea of marketing the Phoenix or its likeness anywhere."
Roxy: "Yes. That much is true. She hasn't done anything legal with it, but they'll find some way to try to say its WWE related because it was in their ring or on their stage. You know how that goes."
Madison: "Yeah, unfortunately I do know how that goes. I love my job, but the politics suck and the level of greed ridiculous."
Dean: "Jess is a big girl. She can handle what comes next. You two don't have to worry about her and as for the big WWE political circle, she shouldn't get wrapped up in it at all. That shirt she wore doesn't look like a WWE shirt at all. The only people who know it's her image are us and her and whoever made the print. She's not going to get screwed around. I didn't get screwed around. They just asked me if I would consider a different ring name because there are hundreds of guys named Jon in the WWE."
Roxy: "Translation: They didn't want someone with the same name as Cena. Hence why Jimmy Uso doesn't use Jonathan in the ring."
Roman: "That's a personal choice like me using Roman instead of Joe or Leakee."
Roxy: "I can understand why you don't use Leakee. It's kind of hard to pronounce and chant out there."
Roman: "And I love the sound of Roman Reigns. It sounds like strong royalty and it sounds awesome when they chant it."
Dean: "Seth was the only one who didn't want to give up Tyler Black. He hated the idea of taking on yet another ring name."
Madison: "I don't understand why they sign you on to WWE and then ask you to change your name anyway. I mean, you've already established careers with the original names."
Dean: "New place, new face and a fresh start. Some guys don't mind ditching their old names because it ditches their old problems that go with that name."
Roxy: "Yeah. Kevin Owen is a fine example. He ditched his other name to ditch the controversy that went with it and to honor his son."
