So Paul is saying he was basically the superseding mind in the Jewish way. He has been, you know, top of his class in the study of Gamaliel. The idea says, But when it pleased God, who lost me from my mothers womb, and called me as a result of his grace, to demonstrate his Son in people, that I might preach him among the list of Gentiles; immediately I conferred not necessarily with flesh and circulation. Now see these are typically the debates I love to get into. My websites: Melissa Scott