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Chapter 3- Victims of inconsistency part 1
"Now we call Clark Kent to the stand", Matt said as Clark Kent, in his Superman suit, arrived on the stand. "So what is your experience under Whedon compared to under Snyder?"
"Well, while Snyder does not understand what the character of Superman stands for, at least he did create a character", Clark told Matt. "It wasn't Superman he created, but it was a character at least, who happened to be called 'Superman' while not sharing any qualities with him. But still, I got a character arc, and it was going to be fulfilled in 'Justice League'."
"And then what happened?" Matt inquired.
"Due to the unfortunate tragedy in Snyder's family, he had to exit, and Mr. Whedon was brought in, and there began the nightmare", Clark said. "Every character he could butcher, he did. Which was shocking, because while a horrible person, he was a great creator, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Firefly and the Avengers films are proof of that, but during the making of this film, I think he finally lost it. And I wasn't even his worst victim, though it was bad enough. First, the character arc I was being set up for from before, it just got thrown away. Now I did get some iconic Superman quotes, but with how I was before, me suddenly becoming a hopeful version of the character didn't make sense either. My character arc was just destroyed, and that god awful CGI moustache that my actor got due to him not being able to shave it because of his contract for Mission: Impossible- Fallout, it was just a nightmare. At least the Snyder Cut fixed my character and made me more like the actual Superman in a more natural way. It was still bloated, and compared to Mr. Whedon's best work that I mentioned earlier, that film is nothing, but at least it treated me better, and Snyder, for all his flaws as a creator, is a much better person than Whedon. Also, I was made really OP to the point people hated me and questioned the point of the team if I could just do everything on my own."
Matt nodded and said to Odin. "No more questions, All-father."
"Do you have anything to say?" Odin asked Whedon.
"I love boy-scout characters with the no-kill mentality, so I treat them like they can do no wrong", Whedon said as all sighed again at his weird logic.
"You may sit down, Kal-El of Krypton", Odin told him as Clark nodded and walked back. "Call the next witness."
"Next up, we call Bruce Wayne to the stand", Matt said as Bruce Wayne, in his Batman suit, walked up to the stand, taking his seat there. "So, Mr. Wayne, what do you want to share with us about your time under Whedon?"
"Oh don't even get me started", Bruce scoffed. "I was turned into a complete jerk, and used as a punching bag for comedy. I mean, Batman has been used for comedy before, just look at the 60s show with Adam West, but in that show, the point was to be campy, and in DCAU too, I've been used for comedy, but here, it was just incompetent. Plus, due to the reshoot schedules, my actor had a beer gut at the time, so a scene where they had me shirtless with Diana to give some sex appeal ended up looking stupid due to my actor's beer gut. I was also a complete asshole who spoke bad stuff about Steve Trevor to Diana just so some conflict could be created. And I really was useless to the team in Mr. Whedon's version, you could cut me out, and everything would remain exactly the same. In Mr. Snyder's version, I had a truly important role, cutting me out would mean no team at all, and I was a badass in there, I single-handedly held back so many Parademons with my weapons, while in Mr. Whedon's version trying to hold back a few with idiotic plans almost had me killed."
Matt nodded, absorbing all the horrifying details and said. "No more questions."
"What do you have to say in your defense?" Odin asked Whedon.
"People loved how I did Tony Stark, so I did the same with Bruce Wayne!" Whedon snapped as all shot him glares. Just because Tony and Bruce had surface similarities didn't make them the same characters.
"You may take your seat, Mr. Wayne", Odin said as Bruce nodded and walked off. "Call your next witness, Mr. Murdock."
"Now we would like to call Angel, the Vampire with a soul", Matt said as Angel shared a look with Cordelia, and she gave him a nod as an understanding passed between their eyes, and then Angel arrived, taking his place on the stand. "So, what would you like to tell us about your experiences under Mr. Whedon?"
"When I eventually got my own spin-off show, I had little to complain about, my problems are all about my time in 'Buffy', which was before I had my show", Angel explained to Matt and the rest. "Basically, in my introduction, I was shown to be stalking Buffy, and Mr. Whedon tried to play the whole thing as this lovely but tragic and doomed romance resembling the likes of Romeo and Juliet, which itself is a stupid romance."
There were nods of agreement as Angel continued. "Then Buffy too was in love with me when I just randomly showed up, gave her advice and disappeared, how does that make sense? Then in Season 2's penultimate episode, Mr. Whedon crossed all lines. Basically, I first saw Buffy when she was a 15 year old, sucking on a lollipop, while I am this over 200 years old Vampire, and even counting that out, my human age is 26, and I fall in love at first sight. So, imagine this- a 26 year old man sees a 15 year old girl sucking on a lollipop, and falls in love right there, at that point, it is nothing if not creepy. Outside of when I was Angelus, my only role in the show was to be Buffy's love interest, and the romance was just creepy and cringeworthy, with only the chemistry between my actor and Buffy's saving it. After that, in my own show, I was an amazing, compelling character with a lot of depth and a true badass, but the problem is whenever Buffy was brought up, or if I went back into her show, I was suddenly reduced to the teenage lovesick puppy I was again, which is disrespectful to not just me and Buffy as characters, but Cordy too, because she is the love of my life, or un-life, she is the one I fell in love with in a natural way that was built up to. So Mr. Whedon trying to treat my romance with Buffy as this high, golden, unattainable standard while treating my infinitely better, sensible and loving romance with Cordy like crap is enough to show us what kind of person he truly is."
Matt agreed with a nod as he said. "No more questions, All-Father."
"What do you have to say in your defense?" Odin snarled at Whedon.
"I didn't want to do it! The other producers wanted a romance! And I'm bad at Math!" Joss defended lamely as the others groaned.
"You may take your seat", Odin said as Angel got up and returned to his seat. "You may call your next witness."
Now we're getting to the really bad ones. In the JL film pretty much every main character is gonna come up to share.
For Angel, I've said it before and I'll say it again, while I loved him in 'Angel', and ended up having him as my 2nd favorite character in the Buffyverse behind Willow (Spike comes 3rd), and also having him in my Top 10 characters of all time, I really didn't like him in 'Buffy'.
I didn't hate him exactly, but I didn't like him either, I just didn't care about him, outside of when he became Angelus, since Angelus was a hell of a villain.
The Angel I know in 'Angel' would never stalk a teenage girl and try to romance her. It was really just a mellow version of his obsession with Drusilla when he was Angelus. Angelus destroyed Drusilla due to his obsession, while the 'Buffy' version of Angel romanced Buffy due to his obsession.
The whole romance with Buffy was just forced and creepy, I mean, a 26 year old guy (I'm not counting his Vamp age) sees a 15 year old girl sucking on a lollipop and falls in love at first sight? And no one in the writing room batted an eyelash?
His romance with Cordelia in 'Angel' was amazing, it started as a friendship, then turned into love over time, and it was a hell of a romance, plus Cordelia was an actual adult when they started. And yet, Whedon treated that amazing romance like crap because Buffy/Angel is supposed to be this unattainable golden standard.
News flash! It's not!
Really if not for Sarah's and David's chemistry, and the 'Close Your Eyes' soundtrack, the pairing would have been a complete dumpster fire.
Even then, as much as I disliked the pairing, I could accept it happened in the first 3 Seasons, so that after their breakup they can mature and move on. What I can't accept is them being regressed into lovesick puppies again every time they meet afterwards. Seriously, Buffy/Angel is that passionate first romance you have as a teenager, it seems amazing when you're going through it, but once it ends, you realize how problematic it was.
So treating them as these 'forever soulmates' is bullshit.
My OTPs are Angel/Cordelia and Buffy/Ensouled Spike, now these 2 pairings make perfect sense, and are amazing.
Also, the dialogue between Buffy and Angel is so melodramatic it makes the dialogue between Anakin and Padme seem like a normal conversation in comparison.
"When you kiss me, I wanna die." Seriously? LOL! Don't think that's a good thing if you wanna die when he kisses you.
Also, the 'I'm terrible at Math' was Joss' actual defense regarding the inconsistency with Angel's age.
Anyway, hope all enjoyed and see you all next time with another chapter. Stay safe from the coronavirus ya all!
