He pulled out two pictures to give to her, "Katie and Sadie are peas in a pod (I hope you understand that terminology), and they were early boots in the only season they competed on, while not being on your team. You and Katie have been said to have the same voice, while you bonded with Sadie in the fear challenge. How has your relationship evolved, or devolved over the years?"
"It was weird getting to know Katie for a bit, since people thought we sounded alike. I never got the comparison, and it made her and Sadie feel weird too. I wanted to get to know Sadie, and we did have the same fears of bad haircuts. They didn't show it, but her and I hung out A LOT after that time, and I felt bad for her. No one really got that she lost her main support system, and they've been together their entire lives. Sadie helped me out when Tyler was voted out, and she was actually helping me grow into my own person, just like I was doing for her. I didn't get to know Katie until after I was booted, and we started tanning, and going on runs together. When I was on the tour bus with the Drama Brothers, they were there, and we had SO MUCH FUN together. All of the parties that we attended, the shopping sprees that we took part in, the sleepovers we had, and the gossip that was spilled. The two of them are so fun, but when the whole mess with Tyler and Leshawna happened, they were there for me. We continued to hang out for the next few years, and tried doing business together, but it didn't work out well. We aren't best friends, but whenever we are in town, or they are in town, we hang out. They are good friends of mine."
Moving on, he smirked as he grabbed the next picture to hand to her, "We already kind of mentioned in brief about your dysfunctional relationship with Leshawna through other people. How did you feel about some of the things she did, and the decision she made?"
She laughed as she recalled their first moments, "I remember when she told Heather to jump, and I was scared out of my mind, and when she threw her over, I thought she went too far, though Heather did say a lot of mean stuff. I didn't like that Heather pretended to forgive her, and some of the comments she made about Leshawna did disturb me. We did get along at times, and she really thought I was cool for helping put Heather in the fridge. She wanted me to find my strength and defend myself with Heather, thanked me a lot for making the shower, and we saw different sides in the other, that was shocking. You can never judge people based on how they look, though there were times where she did tell me that I was lame, like voting off Beth. We got very close on "Action", where she did tell me some info on her relationship with Harold, and them sneaking around reminded me of how her and Tyler would sneak around. She helped me move on form Tyler, and to not solely focus on him."
"Where did the conflict start in your eyes?" Josh cut in, wanting to get to the good parts, clearly tired of her being nice.
"A lot of things she was saying didn't make sense. Like, she would pretend to not like Harold, though her actions say otherwise. She then talked about how she was so real, and so honest with people, but the clip showed that she was being fake, and would badmouth all of us. What no one saw was that she DID cry behind the scenes, and it was during the merge where she sincerely made up with everyone. She talked about how what her cousin said about everyone, and how the fans reacted to them threw her off, and we understood. What happened outside of the show I thought was foul, with her getting with Tyler during those shows, since she knew how I felt. We got into a screaming match over the phone, and I cursed her out like I did Heather. There was also the issue with her being mad over Beth and Harold, while she also hooked up with Justin. We did not speak for the first episode of the third season, and we had to literally be locked in a room to clear the air, and to not bring any of it on the show, which we agreed on. We made up properly in the Yukon challenge, and it's not shocking they didn't show any of it, since they HATE it when stuff from outside the show is brought up on the show. There was a... moment between the Victory girls right before the challenge, and it was... steamy, that's all I will say. She promised that she would help me get back with Tyler, and was the only person who had faith in me during her final episode; I do appreciate her for that. We were snappy because of that, and the producer people clearly trying to plot against us. I remember calling her to see if she got the call for "All-Stars", and advised me to not do it, since they will just set me up to be an early boot fodder again. We're not best friends, but I do hang with her from time to time. She's great overall."
Josh wanted to move on, "Nice to know that despite the both of you being trifling, you manage to be on good terms. Anyways, what are your thoughts on Noah? For a VERY short time, he was on the Screaming Gophers, and you both were on the third season, despite neither one of you doing well."
Her face went blank when his picture was given to her, "Nathan was just there... He was mean with his insults, but everyone knows that he was too lazy and weak to even bust a grape. I mostly ignored him, and then he said something to me about pranking in high school, which was just cruel. He was miserable to everyone on the show and at Playa des Losers. I didn't think much of him until we were both booted from "World Tour", and got into an argument with Izzy about... what happened to her and Owen. He said some awful stuff, so I stood up for her, and told him how he's a shrimp that was mad that his friend had a life without him. He mentioned something about me forgetting about Tyler, and letting every man and producer run a train on me, whatever the heck that means. Luckily I've never had to deal with Nathan much over the years. Just nothing."
"Makes sense. The two of you never got to spend much time together over the first few seasons. Anyways, you DID spend a lot of time with Owen, who was a Screaming Gopher, and a Killer Grip with you over the first few seasons."
"Well, I did think Owen was kind of gross, and it wasn't cool or cute seeing him do all of that nasty stuff. He would streak with Izzy and I, which was pretty fun, and was always good for a motivational speech. We were both young spirits or whatever, and he was good to just vent to. Owen kept the team moral, or whatever it was called very high. He knew how to have a good party, and after he announced his plans, I HAD to support him in the finale. We did chill a lot once the second season started, and I was a HUGE supporter of his relationship with Izzy. After he won, he thanked me A LOT for giving Izzy that final advice of taking her shot before I left. Seeing them be so happy to me warmed my heart, and it was ONE of the reasons why I started feeling differently about Justin, since he was actively trying to ruin their relationship. Didn't get a chance to speak to him much in "World Tour", and I didn't like how he threw Izzy under the bus, and started HIDING when he got voted out, so we definitely had a... tense conversation about that. I've seen him over the years, and we've had a great time together, but we aren't close like that."
Josh went to grab the next picture, and he also had a blank expression on his face, "I do not remember you and Sierra having much interaction with you, despite competing on two seasons together. You did not last long with her on "World Tour", and you were on the same team with her on "All-Stars", but you did not last long. What did you think of her?"
Lindsay rolled her eyes as she got Sierra's picture, "I found her to be creepy, and quite rude actually. She started saying a bunch of information to me about me and the group at the red carpet, and I was VERY creeped out. It got even worse because she CONTINUED this when we were all on the tour bus chasing Chris, and was getting in EVERYONE'S business. What no one knows was that she was arguing with Beth and I because of her prior relationship with Cody, and seeing us on the Drama Brother tour. It was very uncomfortable, and she wanted to get info out of how I felt about Leshawna and Tyler, which I never talked about publicly. It got EVEN WORSE because she kept on arguing about Beth and Cody ON THE SHOW, and I of course defended her on it, and then she got mad at me for not being loyal to Tyler, so she stirred up a lot of stuff. I remember us both being voted out early on "All-Stars", and she cried about regretting everything that happened, so we did end up making up. She talked to me about Izzy, who she knew I kind of distanced myself from at that time, so we bonded over that. Sierra told me that she was planning to go to therapy right after filming ended, and I did see a sweeter side of her. Of course she still spills everyone's business, so whatever good will I had towards her is gone."
"No shocker that you find her to be creepy. So Trent is the next person to be discussed, and we've gotten some TEA about you and Trent being... very close at one point in time. Do you want us to explain it for you, or will you spill it yourself?"
All she could do was softly laugh and blush, "Oh goodness. Trenton always had a... sweet tooth for me, and I always thought he was attractive with a BRILLIANT singing voice. I would ask him to sing for everyone, and he would actually teach me how to sing, and play the guitar. He always had a positive attitude for everything, and I knew how jealous Gwen got when we hung out together, but it was strictly friendly, and my heart belonged to Tyler. Heather wanted Beth and I to pull him on the boat, but I just wanted to talk to him too. I was grieving Tyler's elimination, and I wanted a male friend to speak to. We talked about our home lives, and he asked me why I was friends with Heather. He cheered me up about Tyler getting booted, and when I decided to tan, he allowed me to rest my head on his crotch, and I felt him grow... hard. We were in that position for about an hour, and was just talking about life. Of course once he started getting closer to Gwen, he distanced himself from everyone else, though it was nice that he trusted me with the cooking of fish. After he was poisoned, we clearly weren't that close anymore understandably. I really did not want to help Heather with her plot on him and Gwen, but I was forced to, as she said that she would destroy all of my makeup when that happened. When I was booted, I apologized to him, he forgave me, and we hung out a lot together. We actually tanned together quite a bit."
Josh remembered something, "You did call him hunky, cool, and stylish on the special, so were you surprised when he chose you to be on the Killer Grips due to being beautiful? And when did the hookup happen?"
"Well, he told me ahead of the time that he wanted me on his team, so I knew I was going to be a Killer Grip. While I am beautiful, he was clearly doing that, and somewhat flirting with me to bother Gwen, who WAS flirting with Duncan. All of the Grips tried to talk some sense into him, but he would not listen. We wanted him to play for himself, but all he cared about was Gwen. It got so bad to the point that the 4 of us had to pull him in the room, and yell at him. We didn't know that he was throwing challenges yet, but he was clearly off. When we did find out, he had to go. Trent did apologize to everyone once we all showed up to the Aftermath set. I was of course invited to the Drama Brother tour, and they were all there when that phone call with Tyler and Leshawna happened. Trent was flirting with me beforehand, but it wasn't until after that phone call where we had a few passionate nights, where we hooked up." She started to blush heavily as she told the story, "Trent made all of the right moves, said all of the right things, and I did that to him as well. It was so passionate, and there was a lot of sexual tension for about a year and a half at that point. We had sex a few times, but stopped of course. One thing that I forgot to mention with Leshawna is that while she and I were not on good terms, she threw this in my face. I do speak to him relatively often, since he's one of my closer male friends, and we spent a lot of time together on the yacht, and at the "WT" Aftermath hotel. I've been on every tour of theirs, and he's invited me to a lot of his events. A great guy in many ways."
He grabbed a new pile of paper, "Since we got the original cast out of the way, it's time to talk about the "Revenge" cast that you competed with on "All-Stars", and you also made a cameo on "Revenge of the Island". Cameron is the first person on the list."
The blonde woman shrugged her shoulders, "He was on the Heroic team, but left no impression on me. He seemed quite nice, but was also very weird too. He was very interested in speaking to Sierra, and came off like I was too stupid to speak to him. I remember him trying to speak to me about biology and chemistry, and it just did not go well for me, duh. When he did arrive to Playa des Losers, he was just really annoying. All I remember him doing was talking about how Mike and Zoey were better than the rest, how much Al sucked, and he took no responsibility for what happened to Sierra, and hiding like a bitch. Cameron's just pretty irrelevant."
"From what I've been told, it seems like most of the OG "All-Stars" not named Gwen, and Sierra at the time did not like Cameron at all. What are your thoughts on Jo?"
"We did not get along from the moment I made my cameo on her season. Her team gave her an AWFUL makeover, and when she came up, I could not help myself but laugh at it. She of course was not pleased with this, and then snatched my mirror. What people didn't see is that she told me that my boobs would deflate soon, and that Tyler would leave me for a fresher girl once he got over my dumbness. When we were on the fifth season, and when we would argue quite a bit about filming the intro, since she still remembered about the stuff that happened in the last year. When she got voted out, she was mad that Lightning and I were having a good time, and enjoying being eliminated, so she would start rumors that the two of us were sleeping together, and I called her out for being jealous. We got into some pretty intense arguments, since I told her that she wishes that she could be a normal girl, but was hairier than most guys. She threatened to beat me up, and threw stuff at me. We actually got into a fist fight after several times of us throwing things at one another, and she underestimated the hell out of me."
Josh grabbed Lightning's picture, "Since you mentioned Lightning, he is next. What are your thoughts on him, since you both were the first two kicked off from the season?"
She took the picture, and all she could do was shake her head, "Thunder is ridiculous. When he did arrive to Playa, he was ranting and raving about everyone being stupid for booting him, and I honestly tuned him out. I was tanning in my bathing suit, and he checked me out. He was in a speedo, and I was checking him out in an innocent way, so we got to know one another, and when he isn't being annoying, he's actually pretty funny. We became good friends at the time, though nothing happened with us, since Tyler's my boo. We did have relationship issues, and I told him about it, but he didn't use it to his advantage. When he met Tyler at the premiere party, the two of them became REALLY, REALLY good friends with one another, and we ended up doing... some things together. It is whatever, and he's like those people you see at events, and have a good time, but that is it. Him and Tyler are like BFFs, though I was the one that met him first."
"What are your thoughts on Mike? Or Vito? Svetlana? Manitoba? Chester? Mal?"
"I don't know any of them. The tanned, skinny guy seemed nice, but very nervous, and clearly trying to cover something for an image, from what I remember about him on "All-Stars". He didn't have much interest in speaking to me, and I didn't have much interest in speaking to him either. He was talking to his girlfriend, and two male friends from his season. I definitely felt like an outcast from the short time I was there. I do remember his teammates laughing at the makeover he gave Joanna, and her throwing things at him. I don't really know him, and he doesn't really know me, or cared to know me when I was on the season."
Josh just sighed, "I guess that makes sense. You only competed on an episode with him, and it's not like he went to Playa des Losers, since he made it to the finale." He went to grab another picture, "So Sam is the next person on the list. What do you think of him overall?"
Lindsay clapped her hands, "He is a SWEETHEART. I thought what he did on my cameo episode on his season to be so cute, and to see how heroic he was made me smile. Dakota told me about her crush on him and their relationship, which I thought was pretty cute. Out of the second generation cast, he was the only one on "All-Stars" that made me feel welcome, and made me almost not want to leave right away. I was hoping he would make a good run as an underdog on the season, and show everyone why he deserved to be there, since he told me that it was an insecurity, but he did worse than he did on the first time. We did form a great bond, and reminded me a lot of Tyler personality-wise, with the positive attitudes, being daring, and never giving up. I definitely spent the most time with him during the season at Playa des Losers. Sam told me all about his situation with Dakota, and how hard it really was, so Tyler and I went to visit them during this period, and we became really close. Those two are the ones I speak to a lot from that generation."
"What were your thoughts on Scott and Zoey?"
Lindsay looked more bored than ever, "I don't have much. Zoey seemed like someone who was meek and shy, while Scott seemed rough around the edges when I made my cameo. On the next season, I didn't get to interact with Scott for obvious reasons, but I DID know that Courtney was infatuated with him, even from the first episode. She would gaze at him throughout the first challenge, and I would bother her about it, which she didn't react to well at all. Scott showed up at Playa des Losers over the last few days, and I was annoyed with the game that the two of them would play, so I ranted that they should hook up again. Overall, he's a big old meanie just from the little I saw of his sour attitude. Zoey was someone that I thought I would befriend, but that was not the case in "All-Stars". I could tell that she was very annoyed with me, and I did feel it. I tried to speak to her, just to get to know her, but she was not very interested in speaking to me at all. I felt very alienated on the Heroic Hamsters. I've seen her at a few events, but we never gelled. There was no drama, but no friendship or good moments. "All-Stars" was a miserable experience for me."
"Okay, there is the 6 from that cast, which didn't end up competing on "All-Stars", and the entire "Pahkitew Island" cast. Did you meet any of them, or get to know any of them through your own time?"
She had to think about it for quite a bit, "When I made my visit to the fourth season, I did get to meet Dakota, Brick, and Anne Maria. Dakota is really great, and we ended up sleeping in a tent together during the night, since the boat to pick me up later on didn't get me. She and I have become good friends over the years, and I helped her out when she had to go through that unfortunate event. Anne Maria was a bit bitchy from what I saw on my visit, but she did have interesting fashion sense, and I thought Brick was a really sweet guy. Apparently some of my friends got close to them during "All-Stars", though I have met them at several events, and they TOTALLY know how to turn up. I have done a few modeling shoots with them, and I like them. The other three I never really spoke to or met, since they're not my type. I somehow got involved with the twins due to our parents begin good friends, so I had to see a lot of their drama, and I didn't care for it. The Christopher guy that I caught them both in bed with was cute, and I've spoken to him here and there. I did meet a lot of the girls when Bridgette organized that event in Australia, and I thought Jasmine was cool, but a bit scary, Sugar was hot garbage, I did like Sky, and we worked out together a lot. Ella taught me how to sing properly, so I appreciate that. I haven't met most of the guys though."
Josh gave her the final picture, and had an evil grin on his face, "So we are going to discuss how you've been a VERY shitty girlfriend to Tyler throughout the franchise. But before we do that, we have to go back to the beginning. What did you feel about Tyler, and how did it evolve over the time?"
"I WAS NOT a shitty girlfriend," Lindsay yelled defensively. She calmed down before she answered, "Anyways, when I first saw him barge into the cabin, I just saw him as Prince Charming, and I heard angel noises. He had such great bone structure, such warm brown eyes, perfectly tanned skin, silky hair, and I could see the muscles begging to poke out of that jersey suit. I wanted to get to know him, and I wanted to spend time with him. Yelling that out to everyone, and to tell Cuntney that he shouldn't be booted first was SO embarrassing." She started to laugh recalling the memories, "Something about his energy was so infectious, and I really wanted to spend time with him. At the time, no one in the cast was willing to hook up with one another, but we didn't care about all of that. People used this to target us and to shame the others, especially since we were on opposing teams. Heather told me that I couldn't date him, and the Screaming Gophers would hound me about getting with him, outside of a a few people. It was really hard, and one of these events happened after the sleeping challenge."
He was genuinely intrigued by what she was revealing, "So the entire team hounded you about it, and it caused you to run off crying. What happened afterwards?"
Lindsay felt herself getting emotional, and tried to prevent herself from crying, "I ran out of the cabin, and went to go under the dock, only to find out that Tyler was already there balling his eyes out. Apparently the Killer Bass guys physically hounded him up over it, and the girls started yelling at him. We cried together, and started bonding over how we were bring treated, to the point where we ended up falling asleep under the dock. That's why when the Dodgeball episode happened, we ended up going in the dock after he accidentally hit me with the ball. We talked about our homes, what we liked about one another, our dreams, and we... ended up having our first kiss. We made out under the dock, and then started humping and groping one another. We decided to not do it yet, and we just started tickling one another, and playing with one another. After Heifer's... abuse, we decided to meet up in secret at night, and had a few of our friends help us with it. She wanted me to spy on Gwen, but I was bored, and saw Tyler's ass that just wouldn't stop shaking, so I went to tap it, and he took me to the washroom to make out. I saw him getting closer to Bridgette, and it did make me mad, since there were rumors of the two of them crushing on one another. We continued sneaking off until he was voted out, and I was very sad about it."
"So from what we see in the Playa des Losers episode, you and Tyler are hooking up and kissing, so you both were reconciled. You then start forgetting his name, asking for where he is right after kissing him. Do you just start kissing random people? You really should be embarrassed of yourself for throwing yourself at anyone. A lot of people from the cast claimed that you dumbed yourself down to pretend to forget him, so you could get away with cheating and being a whore," he inquired with venom within his voice.
"Why... why would they say something so cruel? It... It wasn't like that," she started to slowly tear up. "I've always been a... flirty person, so I like being flirted with. I actually met his parents during the few days off we got before "Action", and... it didn't go well. They made it clear that they didn't like me, and saw me as a summer fling floozy. They wanted him to be with someone more... established or classy, whatever that meant. We were not in the best place going into the second season, and even when I did get voted out, he didn't run to speak to me, assure me that everything was okay, or anything. There was no communication, outside of us having a makeout session on finale night. And even after that, there were no plans to meet up or anything. I was holding out hope for the two of us to get back together, but HE took the first strike when he hooked up with Leshawna, and DIDN'T EVEN TELL ME! I FOUND OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE NEWS! Of course we had that phone call, and it was the first time we spoke. He was mad at me for flirting with Justin, which was fair, but I didn't go as far as he did with Leshawna. He saw pictures of me getting too close to Trent as well, though I didn't sleep with him yet. It was so ugly, but when we saw each other again at the Gemmies, we had both cooled off, and I missed him."
Josh was literally scratching his head in confusion, "Through all of this, it seems like you never forgot about him, but that's what you claimed in the third season. Did you legitimately forget that he existed? You are kind of proving other's people's point of conveniently choosing when to forget people."
She rolled her eyes, "I didn't completely pretend that he didn't exist. There were times that I didn't think about him at all. At that point, I just knew that our relationship was done, over with, and I didn't see how I could get back with him. Overall, I think I blanked him out intentionally over the months, to the point where I started forgetting about him in a weird way. I think they call it some Place Effect or whatever it's called. We got back together, and it was fun like the old times. We talked over everything, and what people don't know is that Leshawna got us together a few hours before her elimination to talk through everything, and I think that was her way of apologizing to me. We did... finally make love after the Amazon challenge when we finally got to First Class, and he was so romantic. Him and DJ set up a romantic date, and I was later told that Alejandro, Noah, and Owen helped him plan the date, so I do thank them all for that. I told him that I felt like the producers were plotting against me, and that I had a feeling I was going to be booted next, since they wanted to keep DJ around for a bit longer, and everyone else on the team was booted. He didn't believe me, but what happened in the next episode... happened. Once he did show up to the Aftermath set, our... honeymoon period continued, and it was amazing. Things went well for the first year or so..."
"Why did you say the for the first year or so? I do remember that there were rumors around "All-Stars" that the two of you broke up, but it was seemingly false."
"Well, we did almost break up. Tyler got mad that people started seeing him as MY boyfriend, instead of his own person, so he really got into bodybuilding, and he started eating all of these low-carb stuff, so he became really cranky. His parents still did not like me, so we argued over that, and my parents stopped liking him after a while. I got the call for "All-Stars", and while I didn't want to do it, he was ADAMANT about me not doing it. Things were just very stressful, but me being on that season gave us the space we need to figure things out, and we worked through everything. The show was done, I was focusing on my businesses, Tyler was focusing on his career, and we've distanced ourselves from our families, who have been selling stories, and causing drama between the two of us. We did get elomarried, whatever the word is a few years ago, and you really don't see us doing much. We really didn't want to make it into a big deal, and we went to couples therapy for a few years beforehand. The therapist told us to make the relationship ONLY about us, and to not involve anyone else, so that is what we did. Even Beth started getting pissed off about what was happening in our relationship, so things had to change. We've been trying to have kids over the last few years, but it hasn't been working very well. They mentioned that something about my hoohaa can't carry full-term, so they are thinking about taking an egg out to put it into someone else."
He did genuinely feel bad for her, "I am sorry about that. Hopefully you and Tyler will be able to find a surrogate soon. I wouldn't wish any of that on my worst enemy. So the final question is, what are you up to now, and what have you learned since being on the show?"
A radiant energy came from the blond woman as she smiled, "Well, this happened after "World Tour", but I actually went to college for cosmetology and fashion. It took me like 6 years to get my degree or diploma or whatever, but I GOT IT. It was one of the ways that I could use to go back to real life, and to get myself together to come up with a plan. Beth and I decided to come up with a makeup and jewelry line about 6 years ago, and I was about to graduate from school. We came up with it, with her doing all of the creative drawings, and me doing all of the fashion sense stuff. Everyone has always talked about her bracelet creating even back in "Action", and talked about my fashion sense, so we agreed to do this, and it's still running shockingly. So many others try to create their own businesses, and it ends up failing. I also went to become a yoga teacher of some sorts, so Tyler and I do that on our spare time, and we're planning on releasing a few videos. I am also huge on social media, and I got hired by some company who wants me to travel to places to talk about and promote them, so I get A LOT of money from them."
All of a sudden, she started grabbing her breasts, "And between you and me, I'm going to get a breast reduce thingy, since these babies HURT. And if I DO somehow end up getting pregnant, the pressure is just too much. I've learned that relying on your looks is not the way to go about life. Sometimes it gives you attention that you don't want, and people aren't getting to know your mind, thoughts, and souls. I had to find my own version of intelligence, and I had to empower myself. I learned to love people who are nothing like me, and enjoy all of the positivity in life. Confidence, and mainly the right kind of confidence is the main thing I gained from the show."
Josh was actually very shocked, "Wow, I was not expecting anything insightful from you Lindsay, but you managed to surprise me. I hope you continue on this good path. Thank you for coming in."
The two got up to shake hands, and Lindsay waved at the production crew before getting her things, "I don't remember any of your names, but it was great to reflect and to release a lot of this stuff. Take care." She soon made it out of the building in a swayish way.
