11. November. 2019
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Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis Challenge 2019:
Write a story where person(s) who know about the TV series get somehow transported into the Stargate world (That's called "Fan-Insert ") or where SG-1 and/or SG-Atlantis-1 somehow get hold of their own TV series, which they( the characters ) than watch (That's called " Characters watch their own series "). There is the possibility to combine the two.
Write your own story to the challenge too.
Reviews:
• Sorry for the long wait. I have been writing other chapters and this chapter wasn't finished.
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• Doctor: Your review jumps around topics but I try to answer some questions. First, you assume too much. Usually, I would write a different answer. But since I feel that this is somehow personal, this is the explanation.
Let's start easy: Martin:
You assume that he will spend the next 3 years in the mountain or somehow in a functional position in the mountain. He doesn't have to be " useful" (though I disagree about that). It is life; there are times when persons can't do something. That is realistic. Frasier's daughter is/was younger. Who said anything about a normal life? Who said that he won't be shot before he is even 18 years old? Nobody. So. Stop assuming and then negative reviewing your own assumptions!
"18 years old is special": Big deal! There are children who are child soldiers, who are starving or are sold and treated like slaves when there are 18. Just because someone is 18 that doesn't mean that he/she doesn't have some shit about that time. There is that Christian girl in Africa; some Islamic group kidnapped the girl with other female pupils a longer while ago. Since she stayed to God and didn't say that she didn't say that she chaged , they kept the girl and left the others go. Someone should send soldiers that way and rescue the girl!
Whatever happens to Martin, it could have happened like that.
You first say that the SGC(military complex) would use prison and interrogation and then demand that he needs a normal , typical US life. Perhaps you should make up your mind about it and then start questioning.
Elisa:
Orders: Elisa isn't ordering them to do things but is afraid. And just because they told them that they will do something, it doesn't mean that they will. Perhaps you should start thinking. It happens that persons can't prevent something. Perhaps I want that she isn't there when something happens.
They shouldn't sit on the information:
So they tell them. What happens when the replicators read their minds? Even if there wouldn't be a good reason not to tell them, there is still the factor "person". They can simply decide not to tell them. Perhaps you missed it but that does happen.
First, you say they won't trust/act on the information. Then you say that they should tell them. Make up your mind. Your complete review is like this.
Hammond:
He rarely tells them, or rather O'Neill about his private life. It doesn't matter if you can imagine it or not. It is canon.
Story spans years:
In the moment the story isn't even a month old. You assume again. Even if it does, you don't know if they are shot first.
100 persons:
I never said to send 100 persons. Spoiler: It isn't in my story! It never was planed that way. And the SGC didn't do the things. There wasn't even a mission that happened. There are still in " free time modus". There is a difference if e.g. Elisa tells O'Neill to not eat cake on the next planet.
Elisa gives orders:
She never did give orders. The only time that one could take it as an order is, when she tells them to fight for their return/rescue/ health. And it would be stupid not to do that!
Military:
If you haven't realises it, SGC isn't typical military. The NID/ higher ups/ President would milk and dump them. Hammond and O'Neill wouldn't and they are keeping it quiet.
SI:
SI means self insert. That means that the writer/reader is in the story/ 1 person point of view. This is not a SI. Get your facts right. This is a fan-insert(title, idiot) or OC- insert( Other character)
Insert+ SGC:
If you don't think that a good story exist, why are you reading it?
Non soldier in the SGC:
There are non soldiers in the SGC. Did you watch the show? You can add another non solder to the SGC. There are just unusual consequences. Unplanned things happen in real life.
In Atlantis, the female leader would let Becket do every experiment he wants and drug them for information. She would torture the information out and not O'Neill. She is a smarter Kinsley. They wouldn't trust strangers, when they are cut off and the wraith would learn about them if they talked and now that Atlantis is just invisible.
Realistic:
It is realistic. It is (mostly) canon. I won't repeat the earlier reason.
O'Neill (and Hammond) wouldn't let them be used and checks information with his contacts.
They know that this information is dangerous.
Carter wouldn't let them tell them everything.
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Previously:
General Hammond says: " It is an idea we can try in a few days. We won't hurt to try it. We will ask the Asgard for help. We will have to act as if you will stay for longer. There is the possibility that we won't be able to send you back. Let's talk about that and the options about your cover story later and tomorrow.
What can you tell us about past missions and what you would have changed? Start with an unchanged version."
Elisa and Martin nod.
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Martin Costa asks Elisa O'Neill: "Should we start with the first movie or just the series?"
Elisa answers: "Start at the beginning. The movie."
Jackson asks: "Is there a big difference between the two?" "Yes.", Elisa says, "Names are different and some smaller things are different. The actors who play Jack and you in the series look like or a lot like you. The actors in the movie are very very close but different. They still fit the "you" at the time, I think. "O'Neill Movie-actor" was a lot more militaristic, especially at the beginning and there could be the possibility that that O'Neill has just one ' L'. You should ask Martin."
"Don't know. I would have to rewatch it which I can't.", Martin says.
" So. The movie.", Dr. Jackson says.
Martin says: "So. The movie. The movie starts in 1926. There is this great scene where the workers there pull the Stargate with ropes and then the Stargate is vertical. Vertical again after tausend of years." Martin talks enthusiastically and his voice gets a sound.
Martin asks: "Did you really have to sneeze that much Dr. Jackson when you went through the Stargate the first time and did a chicken dance."
Dr. Jackson: "Yes and I didn't really do a chicken dance."
Martin: "Was there that animal?
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A part was missing with the nuclear warhead.
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Then the bomb blew up in Ra's face."
O'Neill says: "That was." "Detailed.", says Jackson.
Carter says: " I think you said more now than before."
Martin blushes and stutters: "Well. I talk when I get into it and I quite like the Stargate." "Who doesn't?", says Colonel O'Neill seriously and joking, " That thing is like a big magnet." Carter adds: "It is a super- conductor." O'Neill stops his eye role and smiles amused.
Elisa asks: "So. How much really happened?" Jackson and O'Neill answers. It was pretty close.
Elisa says: "Technically, we couldn't change that. It is that changed many things. If the mission happened one day later? The military complex would have arrested us and." She looks at Martin and then says: "And interrogated us. They would think that we are spies or something. You were lucky that you caught Ra the way you did. More lucky than you think If one of my ideas is right." She shudders. "We wouldn't have contacted you at that time. Sorry."
"Technically, you shouldn't change anything, considering time space and time laws.", Carter adds, warningly. O'Neill puts his 2 cents in: " I still would have liked a heads up that I should pack more ammunition or an ambush." "Or a delicate situation.", adds Dr. Jackson. " Exactly! ", agrees the colonel, enthusiastically.
General Hammond says: " I understand that you couldn't change the beginning. Even the activities one year later but a warning about the first attack to clear the gate room. We lost a good airwoman. And good men later in the retrieval. " The frustration shows through.
Elisa says: "One of the worst outcomes would have been that you would have buried the gate and hid your head in the sand. After one year the other System Nobles must have realised that something happened to Ra and they were trying to become more powerful. Apophis would have come to Earth in ships and you wouldn't have had what you did the first time. In addition, he would have had Ska'ara's knowledge about your danger level.
Even if you wouldn't have, you wouldn't have rescued the others. You showed everyone that you beat Apophis. Persons began to doubt the symbiots more. You would have lost Teal'c. If something else changed and he would have come through the gate with Apophis the first time and you hae had a iris, he would be bodily-dead. I wouldn't risk him because he is he. A person. But out is a military and strategic point of view, just think about the information and other help he gives you. And many security measures were put in place because of what happened with the hidden passager. " Teal and Elisa look at each other and he inclines his head.
O'Neill wildly ruffles his head and says, frustrated: "Shit-ted if you do, shitted if you don't."
Elisa says with a equally frustrated voice: "And the first missions and problems would build and form your team. The trust, the abilities, the dynamics, trust to the SGC, mission reports and shit that Kinsley would use, your military " worth", respect between you and other things. One word would have changed many things and it would have made many things worse and. And not many better. Many possibilities. We wouldn't even know when or how to contact you until we would know when we were."
The general interjects: "That isn't helping. We have to compare what happened with what you know. What happened one year later?"
Elisa tells them an edited version. "That is what mostly happened. General.", O'Neill supports.
Sorry. It is a bit short but I didn't want to cut the next part.
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Thoughts?