Chapter 98 -"INTERROGATION ON PROJECT G" - #020915
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MEETING TITLE: "Interrogation on Project G"
MEETING TRANSCRIPT: #020915
Meeting Attendees: Professor Hojo, Professor Hollander
Date of Interview: 09.15.02
Location of Interview: Junon
List of Acronyms:
Professor Hojo=Hoj
Professor Hollander=Hol
Intelligent Verbatim Transcript
[Begin Transcript 0:00:22]
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Professor Hojo (Hoj): "Jail suits you, Hollander."
[Hollander laughs.]
Professor Hollander (Hol): "Failure looks good on you too, Hojo."
Hoj: "I would like you to know that this is being classed as an interrogation."
Hol: "Oh, I'm delighted."
Hoj: "So why don't you do your little best to be a good subject and nobody has to get hurt."
Hol: "Do you really think I will just…cooperate with you? Now?"
Hoj: "Do you have a choice?"
Hol: "Sure."
Hoj: "Your death wishes won't necessarily come true."
Hol: "Is this what it's like being one of your pawns? This is how you keep them under your control? It is this blatant?"
[01:00]
Hoj: "We're here to talk about yours, not mine."
Hol: "How did this even work?"
Hoj: "Let's talk about your work, not mine."
Hol: "Wait, actually, wait one minute. It didn't work, did it? You never allowed Sephiroth anything. He can barely breathe, let alone do anything for himself. You broke that man's spirit and made him everyone's bitch."
Hoj: "Let's speak of bitches. Shall we start with Genesis and his attitude?"
Hol: "At least he had one."
Hoj: "Tell me the point of having a likable, people pleasing personality if it gets you nowhere?"
Hol: "And here we both are, without success."
Hoj: "You are the one handcuffed to this table. You lost. I did not."
Hol: "No. Sephiroth lost."
[pause]
Hol [cont.]: "So did you."
Hoj: "Sephiroth directs SOLDIER. He does everything he needs to. He has no sense of rebel-"
Hol: "Come on. I haven't seen the man in months and I can see from here that he is withering away into nothing."
Hoj: "You will tell me this. Was Genesis' insanity caused by his degradation or your delusions?"
Hol: "Interesting question. Why would you want to know that?"
Hoj: "You have one job today, Hollander. Answer the question or I will call someone in to motivate you to do it."
Hol: "At least I think you know Sephiroth is losing the will to live."
Hoj: "Answer the question."
[02:00]
Hoj [cont.]: "I don't give empty threats."
[pause]
Hol: "I'm trying to think."
[Fingers tap against the table.]
Hoj: "You've had months to think in this cell and the rest of your life to go."
Hol: "Why would you care? Genesis, Angeal, they are dead."
Hoj: "Death is not the end. Not for science."
Hol: "You recovered them both then?"
Hoj: "Angeal. Not Genesis. Even now, your subject's SOLDIER 'honor', as he called it, contributes to the cause. Ironic considering he struck against us in the end. It doesn't matter. A corpse doesn't have an opinion. It is a beautiful thing. They just lay there and give and give and give."
[Hollander blows out a breath.]
[Hojo chuckles.]
Hoj: "You did the dangerous thing, didn't you, Hollander?"
[pause]
Hoj [cont.]: "You grew attached."
Hol: "How can you say that with a straight face?"
Hoj: "I can say whatever I want."
Hol: "Your little secret has leaked. You realize that? People know and nobody is stupid enough to let it go too far, for Sephiroth to find out."
Hoj: "When I first dissected Angeal, do you know what I found?"
[03:00]
Hol: "Do you even know that you care about him?"
Hoj: "I don't give a fuck about Angeal Hewley."
Hol: "No. Do you even know that you care about Sephiroth?"
Hoj: "That's a stupid question."
Hol: "No. It's not. You criticize me but at least I treated Angeal and Genesis like people because I knew that I cared about them."
Hoj: "You tricked Genesis into supporting your attempts to overthrow Shinra. You made him destroy his life. I doubt that could be treating him like a person."
Hol: "In return for helping him with his degradation. Something that Shinra was not able to do. His life was destroyed either way."
Hoj: "And did that work out for you?"
Hol: "Someone corrupted the degradation files and research. I couldn't get them."
Hoj: "Don't look at me like that. It is not in my interest to repair."
Hol: "How much longer do you think Sephiroth will last then?"
Hoj: "He will last as long as I need him to."
[Hollander laughs.]
Hol: "You are holding onto him for no reason."
Hoj: "He is my work."
Hol: "He is stagnated."
[04:00]
Hoj: "Confidently spoken from a concrete room."
Hol: "You say this because you are too invested to see him as a failure."
Hoj: "He is the Demon of Wutai."
Hol: "Because he was the only one from his class that survived. Hardy a point to make. And what happened after you gave him all those exposures as an adult?"
Hoj: "I don't have to humor this conversation."
Hol: "You are right. You don't because you know I am right. You fucked up and he got weaker."
Hoj: "Do not interrupt me."
Hol: "Sephiroth is a waste of your time. Our projects clung together because you ruined yours. Sephiroth isn't self sufficient. He never developed beyond his stunted growth. He never led like Angeal. He never even had the charisma that Genesis had. Everybody knows it!"
Hoj: "Ah yes, the traits that killed both of them."
Hol: "But who is Sephiroth without them?"
[05:00]
[pause]
Hol [cont.]: "One sad lost boy."
Hoj: "His disposition has not changed his performance."
Hol: "And there is your problem. You admit to it. Sephiroth is broken. You failed."
Hoj: "You have tested my patience."
Hol: "I'm trying to show you the truth that you won't see."
Hoj: "And what is that? Tell me before I go get the guards and you are too busy bleeding on this floor to think straight."
Hol: "You are hung up on this project. You are torturing Sephiroth instead of putting him out of his misery like a horse with a broken leg. You kill everything else that isn't useful. The difference is so simple. It's because you are too invested because you were the one to stick your dick in Sephiroth's mother."
[Recording stopped.]
[End of Recording at 00:05:46. Transcribed by R&DGenStaff#145. Reviewed and verified by Professor Hojo.]
