July 25, 2002
Sixth Log: Chihiro and Masaaki
Chihiro: Hello, Masaaki.
Masaaki: Hi, Chihiro.
Masaaki: I'm glad you got my
mail.
Chihiro: I just read it.
Chihiro: Did anything happen?
Masaaki: No, don't worry.
Masaaki: But yesterday I found
out something I really want to talk about.
Masaaki: I hope you don't
mind.
Chihiro: What is it?
Masaaki: Actually it's two things.
Masaaki:
Well,
Monday I started working on my homework, and I do most of my work in the library
here.
Masaaki:
You
should see it, the building is really big, you'd like it.
(Translator note: during Japanese summer vacation some homework is usually assigned.)
Chihiro: I know I said I'd visit you, I will one day.
Masaaki: Don't worry.
Masaaki:
Well,
I'm not quite sure how to ask this now.
Masaaki:
I was
looking up old newspapers for my work, and then the "Spirited Away" story
popped into my head.
Masaaki:
I
thought, wouldn't it be funny to find an article about a "magical
disappearance" in it?
Masaaki:
And I
found something in ********, four years ago. Although they didn't describe it
that magical, more dramatic.
Masaaki:
That
was you, wasn't it? Your family?
Masaaki:
Everything
fits.
(Note: the location will not be made public)
Chihiro: Well yes, I guess you found the tragedy from the past of our family.
Masaaki: I remember something Risa said, about a family tragedy,
but…
Masaaki:
I
really hope you don't mind talking about it.
Chihiro: No, it's ok, now that you've found out.
Chihiro: Actually I'm a little
glad.
Masaaki: I really understand if you don't want everyone to know.
Masaaki:
I
won't tell anyone.
Chihiro: Thanks.
Chihiro: Well, it's not really
a secret,
Chihiro: But I don't usually
talk about it.
Masaaki: I can imagine that.
Masaaki:
I
suppose I'm waking up old memories here.
Masaaki:
Sure
you don't mind?
Chihiro: Yeah, I'm sure.
Chihiro: You're not waking up
much, it's been awake all the time.
Masaaki: You talk about it with Risa, I suppose.
Chihiro: Well, we used to, but recently not so much any more.
Masaaki: The other thing I want to ask, well,
Masaaki:
Is
the movie really based on your tragedy?
Chihiro: Well, yes, it's a bit complicated, but my parents sold
the story.
Chihiro: We really needed the
money at that time.
Masaaki: They are talking about hallucinations and a trauma…
Masaaki:
But
I'd like to believe there's really more to it, like in the movie.
Masaaki:
I
mean it all makes sense:
Masaaki:
Your
views of the world, your dreams,
Masaaki:
I
really believe this could be possible.
Chihiro: Then you're different than most people.
Chihiro: Most people I know
are thinking:
Chihiro: If they can't
experience it themselves, then it doesn't really exist.
Masaaki: I know, we've talked before about Gods and Spirits really existing.
Chihiro: Well, we all take the information we get from the world,
from others.
Chihiro: And then we build our
own opinions about it.
Chihiro: And if something
doesn't fit we either ignore it,
Chihiro: Or say it's a lie.
Masaaki: To most people it wouldn't make a difference whether you
made the story up,
Masaaki:
Or
whether it really happened.
Masaaki:
They'd
always choose the version that fits into their view of the world.
Masaaki:
No
matter how often you tell them the other one is true.
Chihiro: To me it makes a difference. What is the truth anyway?
Chihiro: Are we created by the
world?
Chihiro: I'd like to believe
the other version is also true:
Chihiro: That we also make up
the world around us and our mind creates the things that are real.
Masaaki: Does that make sense?
Masaaki:
But
I'd like to ask a question, if you don't mind me asking.
Chihiro: Go ahead.
Masaaki: How much of your experience went into the movie?
Masaaki:
How
much of the movie is true?
Chihiro: Most of the movie is what I experienced, except for a
some details of course.
Chihiro: They wanted to add a
few of their own ideas, too, like the Susuwatari.
Chihiro: But there was much
more, that they didn't use at all.
(Note: Susuwatari is the Japanese name of the "Sootballs". They had appeared in earlier movies, too.)
Masaaki: They said you were gone three months?
Masaaki:
You
missed a whole term…
(Translator note: the school year is divided into three terms, the first one being from April until mid July.)
Chihiro: It was fifth grade.
Chihiro: Yes, and my
experience there felt also like three months.
Chihiro: They never say in the
movie it's not three weeks, and you can tell by the car in the end that it's
been more than a few days.
Masaaki: But the whole building looks different in the end.
Chihiro: We entered the Spirit World somewhere inside the forest,
Chihiro: when we reached the
building, it was a building of the bath house complex already.
Masaaki: That's why it seemed new…
Chihiro: Do you remember the inscription over the entrance of the
tunnel?
Chihiro: My parents didn't
notice it, but I thought it was strange.
Chihiro: It was a sign of the
bath house, I think.
Masaaki: Do you think you traveled into another time?
Chihiro: No, there were toys in the playroom that looked quite
modern.
Chihiro: They knew about our
world, and how it is today.
Chihiro: That's why most of
them didn't like humans.
Masaaki: Because people forget about their world?
Chihiro: Maybe, but it's hard to say exactly.
Chihiro: There isn't always a
clear reason for everything.
Masaaki: I'm sorry, I'm still very confused.
Masaaki:
There's
a lot on my mind right now.
Masaaki:
It's
like I see the whole picture in a jig saw puzzle for the first time.
Masaaki:
But
there are still a lot of pieces missing.
Chihiro: Even if you'd knew everything I know, there'd still be a
lot missing.
Chihiro: There's ALWAYS more.
Chihiro: I haven't talked
about it for quite a while,
Chihiro: It feels good
actually.
Masaaki: What about your parents?
Masaaki:
You
can talk to them, they understand you, don't they?
Chihiro: They try to.
Chihiro: But they have no
memory of what happened to them.
Masaaki: That they were pigs…
Chihiro: It's better this way, I suppose.
Masaaki: I think I'll never really understand what it means to you.
Chihiro: Yes, I too think nobody will ever come close to understanding.
Masaaki: People might have laughed at your story…
Chihiro: Yes, most of them did, I felt that.
Chihiro: Even if they didn't
show it.
Chihiro: Well, they thought
the story was great.
Chihiro: But they laughed when
I insisted it is true.
Masaaki: I think I would laugh too, if I wouldn't know you.
Masaaki:
But
everything we ever talked about fits into this picture.
Masaaki:
It
all makes sense.
Chihiro: I wish it would make sense to me…
Chihiro: I felt for a while
now like I should tell you.
Masaaki: It would have sounded strange hearing it from you.
Masaaki:
I
guess it's good I found this article myself.
Masaaki:
I
sort of don't understand why wanted them to make a movie of it..
Chihiro: I was ten at the time it happened.
Chihiro: Actually my parents
made the decision.
Chihiro: Everyone told us the
story I'm telling is like from a movie.
Chihiro: I thought everyone
believed me, while they were writing it down.
Chihiro: They probably just
thought I had a vivid imagination.
Masaaki: Do you regret it now?
Chihiro: I don't know, not really.
Chihiro: The movie is very
good, and it's something really special for me.
Chihiro: That way I can share
my experiences without making it look ridiculous.
Masaaki: Oh, yeah.
Masaaki:
Even
if nobody believes it is real, details will stick in their minds.
Masaaki:
It
might change their way of thinking, even...
Chihiro: Hopefully.
Chihiro: And maybe one day the
world will change a little bit.
Masaaki: You mean, that people accept more than what can be scientifically proven?
Chihiro: Yes,
Chihiro: It is important to
forget about logic once in a while.
Chihiro: And that every person
is different.
Chihiro: What is visible to
one might be invisible to others.
Masaaki: That's why those things can't yet be proven.
Chihiro: And never will.
Chihiro: But they can be
accepted.
Chihiro: It's all about
acknowledging the other one's beliefs and religion.
Masaaki: I know, you taught me that.
Masaaki:
I'm
thinking of all the people who had "experiences", that cannot be explained.
Masaaki:
They
all get laughed at.
Chihiro: I think there's much more than in the daily news.
Chihiro: All around the world
there are different beliefs, and who's to say what is the truth?
Chihiro: In a way, science is
just a religion, one way of believing.
Masaaki: One way of describing how the universe works.
Masaaki:
And
not the only one.
Chihiro: And not a perfect one.
Chihiro: I start to think,
what if they are all true?
Masaaki: But that's not possible,
Masaaki:
Too
many contradictions.
Chihiro: I know, I know.
Chihiro: Two facts that
contradict each other cannot be true at the same time.
Chihiro: That's what science
tells us.
Masaaki: That's what logic tells us.
Chihiro: Yes, but the world isn't only logical.
Chihiro: What, if there really
is more than one truth?
Masaaki: You'll never get anyone to believe this.
Chihiro: Yes, I know.
Chihiro: Maybe future
generations will see it differently.
Chihiro: Like we developed
from a few hundred years ago.
Masaaki: I don't think people will go back believing in Gods and Spirits again.
Chihiro: No, but maybe something different.
Chihiro: Something new, like
the power of the mind.
Chihiro: The power of a
thought.
Chihiro: People should start
believing in themselves.
Masaaki: You should write that down.
Masaaki:
Did
you ever write anything about your disappearance?
Masaaki:
From
your point of view?
Chihiro: The movie is my point of view, kind of.
Chihiro: That's what I told
them back then.
Masaaki: I didn't quite mean that.
Masaaki:
How
do you see the it today?
Masaaki:
Some
years later.
Chihiro: Oh,
Chihiro: That's very difficult to say, because it
changes with each season.
Chihiro: It depends on my mood, and I forget, and I
learn.
Chihiro: I often started a few lines, but sometimes
the next day reading it, it seemed stupid already.
Masaaki: I see.
Chihiro: When did you say you'd be coming here?
Chihiro: I'd like to talk
then.
Masaaki: That will be in ten days.
Masaaki:
Yes,
we should definitely meet then.
Chihiro: Maybe I find something I've written recently.
Chihiro: Or I'd write down
something that I can send you.
Masaaki: That would be very nice, I'd like that.
Masaaki:
Now I
have to concentrate on my homework again.
Chihiro: Oh yeah, enjoy it.
Masaaki: I will.
Masaaki:
Hope
to talk again soon.
Chihiro: Same here.
Chihiro: And try not to think
of it too much, it's different than you think anyway.
Masaaki: I suppose.
Masaaki:
Bye
then.
Chihiro: Bye.
