Hello, how are you all doing? As Beerus and Liquiir mentioned in the last show, they are going to be explaining and clarifying some things that really need it.

To Ninchfinch, it's good to see that you're fine with it. Yeah, there were a bunch of bots (or a group of trolls, they could have been that) who reviewed with the same exact message. Either way, it was a mess and annoying, so I just uploaded the story again and blocked all of them. Also, I'm happy to see that you're enjoying ToD. That goes for everyone.

Also, Kurosaga Kurugi, I'm sorry to see that. Trolls are the worst. If only people didn't have to be such jerks. I hope you're feeling okay.

Anyway, enough of me talking. Without any further ado, enjoy!

Knowledge is Power!

Lord Beerus: "Hello and welcome to Talks of Destruction. I am your host, Beerus."

Lord Liquiir: "With him as always is me, his co-host, Liquiir. I just realized that you didn't say 'Lord.' Why is that?" He looked at me curiously.

Lord Beerus: "Well, you never introduce yourself as Lord Liquiir. Who says that I have to be so formal? In any case, I'm just trying it out for now to get a feel for it."

Bulma: "Does that mean I can drop that part, too?"

Lord Beerus: "No, never. To continue on..." I looked over at Bulma. It doesn't look as if she cared about that. She looks tired of me if anything. So, five shows were all it took, was it? That honestly took longer than I expected. "I'm just joking, Bulma. You can drop it when I'm no longer a God of Destruction."

Bulma: "And when would that be? I'm getting tired of waiting." I smiled knowingly.

Lord Beerus: "Nice try, I know you're just trying to get under my skin. To answer your question, not for a while." She nodded understandingly and went back to work on her computer. I crossed my right leg over my left. "Now, as I said in the last show, today is special. It's the big five." I held up five fingers on my right paw for a couple of seconds before putting them down. "Liquiir, what is today's show going to entail?"

Lord Liquiir: "Essentially, we're going to be explaining some things that a lot of people don't understand or know and in the same vein we're also going to be debunking some things. These topics could be construed as 'Controversial,' so just give it a chance before disagreeing and slamming your keyboards with your faces. If anyone feels the need to argue, please keep it civil and preferably in a private message."

Lord Beerus: "Before we begin, I first want to say a few things. One, pass this information along to anyone you believe will be interested. The more people who are aware of this, the better. Two, this is a warning, we are going to be speaking a lot. And three, this is for Fossil King: how dare you!" I balled my left paw into a fist and punched the couch. "I said in the last show that if you wanted to ask more questions, we would answer them! But you gave us nothing new! So ungrateful for everything we've done for you! No, I'm just kidding, we don't care." I reached forward with my right arm and grabbed one of the water-filled cups in front of me. I then brought it to my mouth and took a sip. Ah, ice cold. There are not many things as refreshing. I looked over at Liquiir. "Tell everyone what we're going to talk about today." He smiled and slowly shook his head.

Lord Liquiir: "Sounds good. We're going to be talking about...the powers of Goku, Superman, and Saitama. No, it's not going to be an in-depth analysis of their characters. We're not going to Death Battle this." I chuckled.

Lord Beerus: "That's a good joke. An 'in-depth' analysis. Are we going to pool the powers of all the different versions of Superman and make a composite Superman?" He sighed and placed his paw on my shoulder.

Lord Liquiir: "Please, don't start anything. Our intention here isn't to make fun of anyone. Misinformation and misconceptions have spread like wildfire and our goal here today is to hopefully put those flames out and, like always, inform."

Lord Beerus: "Don't worry, I'm aware. I'm tired of hearing and seeing this foolishness whenever a video or something along those lines is put up." He nodded appreciatively.

Lord Liquiir: "Agreed." He took his paw back. "For Goku and Superman, we're going to keep things fairly simple. For Saitama, we will go more in-depth about who and what he is. Also, please remember that this is not meant to show who would beat who in a fight. We're just going to be debunking some myths and talk about misconceptions."

Lord Beerus: "We're also going to be slapping some common sense into the people who lack common sense. Ironically, it's not as common as one might hope."

Lord Liquiir: "With that being said, let's get started. To put it in the most simple of terms, there are multiple versions of Superman. Literally dozens. Where he is now, Goku can beat some of them. Not all. Conversely, there are some versions of Superman who wouldn't be capable of beating this current Goku."

Lord Beerus: "Just for reference, who are some versions of Superman that Goku would be unable to beat? Where he is now, I want to stress that. For anyone reading in the future, this is anime Goku just after the Universal Survival arc. Dragon Ball Super: Broly has not happened yet."

Lord Liquiir: "All right then, let's see." He crossed his arms. "Keep in mind that these are only a few. There is Cosmic Armor Superman. Yes, we count that version. There's also Strange Visitor Superman, Quantum Superman, and Superboy Prime. This is based on research we've done ourselves. If you don't agree with these, you can all do your own and correct us if you want. Feel free."

Lord Beerus: "So, basically, this is the moral of the story: there are some versions of Superman Goku can't beat and some he can. Very simple. Additionally, if you're in a debate like this, make sure to specify what version you're talking about."

Lord Liquiir: "And now for the fun part...Saitama."

Lord Beerus: "Oh, sure. That's a good way to put it. Whoever the asshole is that began the myth that Saitama's a gag character, I hope that they get one-punched! For fuck's sake, he's not a gag character! If you did research, not only would you know that is laughably incorrect, that's an insult to who and what he is!" Liquiir placed his paw on my shoulder again and proceeded to rub it.

Lord Liquiir: "Beerus, it's okay."

Lord Beerus: "It's aggravating, that's what it is!" I angrily exhaled. "Look, it's fine to use other people's word as a guideline, but don't have them be your only source of information or assume that what they're saying is factual at all. Study the topic for yourself. Even with this, I want to reiterate that you can fact-check what we say here to verify whether we're correct or not." Liquiir nodded.

Lord Liquiir: "That's right. You also mentioned the myth that Saitama is a gag character. That's one of the biggest and most frankly annoying misconceptions about One Punch Man and we're going to debunk that claim. Some might say that a more appropriate label for him is a "Parody character,' but even that's debatable and we will talk about that as well. Anyway, we have to define exactly what constitutes a gag character and if Saitama has shown any of those traits. Now, what is a gag character? What's their purpose? What are their traits?"

Lord Beerus: "I will be going over what they are and what their purpose is in the story. I'll also be providing examples of real gag characters. So, a gag character is a character that is rarely used and shows no personality except for the joke in comic strips and TV shows. They are not relevant to the story and their only purpose is to get a laugh out of you.

Lord Liquiir: "Furthermore, they often display what's known as 'Toonforce' and other reality warping powers that defy logic."

Lord Beerus: "Some great examples of gag characters are Arale Norimaki from Dr. Slump and Bugs Bunny from Looney Toons. They can do whatever they want, whenever they want. They were made purely with the intention to make the audience laugh at their crazy and nonsensical antics."

Lord Liquiir: "Saitama's attitude toward everything is funny, but it's not what constitutes a gag character. He's shown no feats that prove otherwise."

Lord Beerus: "Case in point, he can't breathe in space. If he was a gag character, he wouldn't give a fuck about space."

Lord Liquiir: "Very true. So, let's talk about what a parody character is now. A parody character is there to essentially poke fun at a specific existing work, whether a game, a movie, another character or something else, by imitating and exaggerating its characteristics. Despite what you might have heard, he doesn't really do that, either."

Lord Beerus: "We've said it before and we'll continue to say it. He's definitely not a gag or a parody in any way. He's his own serious character with his own personality, likes, dislikes, and goals. Just because he's impossibly stronger than everyone else in his universe doesn't decrease his value. To say otherwise is honestly a shame because he's so much more than a lot of people give him credit for."

Lord Liquiir: "I completely agree. Now, let's talk about why he's so strong since a lot of people don't understand how that works. The reason he's so strong is that he removed his limiter. It's a term that was coined by Dr. Genus to explain Saitama's overwhelming strength and this is how he explained what a limiter is: 'No matter how much effort one puts in, every living being has an intrinsic limit to its growth. Too much power becomes unbearable and overwhelms its host, turning it into a mindless rampaging monster. To ensure that we do not enter the realm where we lose all purpose and ability to reason, God has set limits to the growth of every being. The mechanism with which growth is controlled is called the limiter.'"

Lord Beerus: "Essentially, there comes a point in which your established limiter prevent you from progressing any further, no matter how hard you train. It puts you on a plateau and you can't reach the next level if there even is one. So, what does removing it do exactly? Some people assume that doing this automatically gives you infinite power. That's not the case. Think of it like Saiyan biology or Superman when he's soaking up solar radiation. They have limitless potential. Their powers are ever growing, but only under certain conditions. Superman with the quantity of solar radiation he absorbs and both Goku and Saitama as long as they train. And yes, it has been confirmed by Yusuke Murata, the illustrator of the One Punch Man Manga, that Saitama still trains to this day."

Lord Liquiir: "However, Saitama is different from Goku in the sense that Goku breaks through his limits. He hasn't removed them. Remember that plateau? Well, Goku still has those points. But, through determination and willpower-"

Lord Beerus: "And lots of plot armor."

Lord Liquiir: "-he shoots past that plateau and onto the next stage. Saitama has no plateau. There is no level he'll ever be stuck on. So long as he keeps training, even if only a little bit, he'll constantly grow. No matter how small or insignificant his growth actually is."

Lord Beerus: "While Saitama is not infinite in any sense of the word right now, he possesses the potential to reach infinity. And just so everyone is aware, there are multiple levels to infinity. Infinite levels, in fact. No, that's not something made up in Marvel comics. It has a basis in reality, you can look up videos explaining this. I would suggest reading it, but...it's boring and somewhat confusing." I yawned, placed my paws behind my head, and leaned back into the couch. "Is that everything?" I asked while looking over at Liquiir.

Lord Liquiir: "Almost. I want to touch on what the no limit fallacy is. Basically, if a character has shown no limits, like Saitama, they are labeled as limitless. That's a dangerous way of thinking and do your best to avoid that mentality. There are other things we'd love to discuss, but we want to save those for a later date. If you learned something here today, that's great! That's always our goal."

Lord Beerus: "If you disagree with anything we said, don't be a dick about it. Be civil. And once again, pass this information along to anyone you think might give a damn. I'm certain that I speak for a lot of you when I say that I am tired of seeing erratic fanboys highball or lowball these guys to such ridiculous extents. That's all I'm going to say."

Bulma: "Don't forget about the big bang myth!" Bulma called out.

Lord Liquiir: "The what? Oh, right, of course! We can't forget about that. Before we officially wrap up, let's talk about it. ONE, the creator of One Punch Man, supposedly said that Saitama has the power of half the big bang if he were to punch at maximum strength. Well, I'm sorry to say this, but he never said that. If you see that used in a debate, don't listen. It's not true. On a similar note, Masashi Kishimoto, the creator of Naruto, never said that Madara is as strong as Nappa. Yet another myth."

Lord Beerus: "I imagine that the people who made those up were trying to make their characters look stronger than they really are. As great as Saitama is, he's not that strong when compared to Dragon Ball Super. Even if you were to highball him, he'd still only be a solar system buster, so around Super Perfect Cell. From what we've seen of him, however, he's most likely a star buster. It's fine, though, because not everything's a dick measuring contest. He's still an amazing character."

Lord Liquiir: "Exactly. With that, I believe that we're done. In the next show, we'll get back to using our normal formula and directly answer some of your questions once again. We will do something like this in later shows, but that won't be for a little while. We hope that you all enjoyed learning here today and hopefully it wasn't too boring." He laughed good-heartedly. "Bulma, would you like to do the honors of asking the Question of the Day?" She softly smiled.

Bulma: "I'd love to. What fanboys are the most annoying for you personally? Goku fanboys, or literally any Dragon Ball character fanboys? Superman fanboys? Saitama fanboys? It doesn't even have to be limited to one character. It could be an entire series. I don't want to name any series because people might assume that the author hates them. Anyway, we look forward to the next show. Goodbye!" She happily waved and Liquiir joined in.

Lord Liquiir: "Goodbye, everyone! Remember, it's okay to debate. Just be realistic with the characters and be civil about it."

Lord Beerus: "Everyone will thank you for it. Good luck debating with your newfound knowledge." I lazily waved goodbye with my right paw. "And remember, if there's one thing you should all take away from this, it's that Saitama is not a gag or a parody character and he doesn't have infinite power. Yet, assuming that he ever does reach that level. He only has infinite potential. I'm tired of hearing and seeing that shit. With that, have a good day."

I have been wanting to get this information out for a long time. I can't tell all of you how many times I've wanted to slap someone for saying these ridiculous things and not having common sense.

My answer for the QOTD is simple, really: Saitama fanboys, for the reasons talked about. I know the "Saitama's a gag/parody character" myth is practically ingrained into a lot of people's understanding of him. The "He has infinite power" is also prevalent. It's just...ugh. I hope that this helped, even if only a little bit.

As always, until the next show, D.F.T.B.A. (Don't Forget To Be Awesome!) Have an awesome day!