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Topic: The Ice Sculpture
In: Boards ► News ► Events ►America ►Brockton Bay
Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Posted On Jan 7th, 2011:
Just a heads up, we have plans to merge this thread with the one by SurveyorofInspiration, due to the amount of crossover involved. Furthermore, Surveyor has a more comprehensive post going on, and Bagrat agrees with this action.
Tin_Mother (Moderator)
So, Brockton Bay has an new addition to its skyline, and its actually not too bad looking if you ignore the cost it took to make it.
Details are sparse at the moment, but the PRT has reported that it is the result of a cape using their powers, and has so far, in their typical fashion, withheld more information until an investigation could be completed. But they did confirm that it happened at a local high school and that there were both injuries and fatalities.
(A moment of silence for the lives lost please)
Winslow High School wasn't the in the greatest area, and not many people really knew about it, now however, the whole city does. The question is, what happened there? A cape fight? But why at a school?
What we do know is that some point after eleven o'clock, there were calls happening to BBPD and the PRT about the school. Emergency services responded, and the PRT also showed up to deal with it.
I'm not going to touch the whole 'failure to effectively communicate,' thing some of the politicians are spouting about the police and the PRT, that's for another post.
I'm going for, what the hell happened in Winslow?
Anyone know anything?
Edit: Ok, so at this point everyone in the Bay knows about the tree. The PRT have released a complete statement (link here), as well as the Mayor with the Chief of Police (link). So, now we know a few things:
The tree (or arboriform, thanks for the tip Elite!), can't be taken down, but it's apparently going to fall apart in few weeks. It's something about the fading power running through it that makes it stronger than steel, even though it's basically just ice.
It has an unknown mental effect to it, luckily it requires direct contact for a time for it to affect someone, but they are still blocking all access to the surrounding two blocks for safety reasons.
It seems that most of the people that were affected the worse are getting moved to a new PRT funded facility for treatment, what kind of treatment they haven't said.
But still nothing on the cape that caused it.
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► The_Working_Worker (Cape Cameraman)
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
I got some pics of the tree from my apartment, you're right about it adding to the skyline. Hell, its almost downright creepy with how it glows in the sunset, like something out of an Earth Aleph movie, or a fantasy novel someplace where the monsters roam.
we sure nothing is going to come running out of that thing and start eating people?
► Durins_Bane1888
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Fuck man, that thing only took a few minutes to form?
Wonder what the new cape could do if they really let loose.
► IceS3a
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
So, the PRT is covering their asses, figures.
What do we think, ice power? Tinker gone bad?
Oh, that ice-based cape, is he back?
► Blue_Forgiveness
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Should we be worrying about the other capes in the city? I mean with all the publicity this is getting, some of the citys villains might be getting ideas.
With the PRT and the Protectorate all over this, it seems like the perfect time to make a grab for territory without getting caught.
► RickElite
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Technically, we should be calling this thing an arboriform, as its tree-like, but not actually a tree.
► Mattros
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
RickElite: Isn't this just a technical term?
► Miss_Shadows
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
What about the injured? Any new news on them? What mental effects? I know a few people that are telling me things, but they can't confirm anything, yet.
► XeonLord
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
I noticed that the PRT was light on those details as well. It's likely they don't know and don't want to say as much.
Blue_Forgiveness: Strangely they all seem to keeping a low profile, a few Merchants acted up judging from what a few news stations have reported.
Not to say there hasnt been some posturing happening. Apparently, several members of the Empire were spotted doing rounds on the edges of their territory
► RickElite
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Mattros: Yeah but it's still A Thing, it's not really a 'tree' but ice shaped into a tree. Kinda like how an SUV is a 'car' which in turn is an 'Automobile.' People hear the words and fit them to a place or time, car is just a general term like statue. Technically this is a statue as well but calling it an ice arboriform tells us what it really is without generalizing it.
Plus it sounds better than calling it an ice tree all the time.
► Algebra3_14
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
So just when I was starting to get use to life here, this happens. We have a dragon, an racist hate group, and a small army of drug dealers.
Sure, lets add in a nightly lightshow why not.
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► Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Got some more info that just came down the pipe (thanks to Surveyor), the PRT have released a statement (link), about what 'happened.'
Most of it is the standard PRT response, pending further investigation. They did they mention having to take some people to get further treatment, but some reports have said that Panacea was there, so treatment for what?
The PRT said to expect more details tomorrow. I'll update the OP when I (or Surveyor, as he's going to take charge when this post gets Merged) gets more information on this.
► PersianLeader
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
do we know if its really ice or is it just something that looks lie ice? because there are some capes that makethings that seems like other things but are really something else. I mean look how big it is thats got to be more than just ice for it to get that big like that.
► Mattros
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
SurveyorofInspiration: do you have links to the PRT? Because not even Bagrat gets his info that fast.
► SurveyorofInspiration (Veteran poster)
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Mattros: Nah, most of it comes from others, I just have no life outside work, so it's easy for me to consolidate things. It's amazing what you can do with all the free time in the world.
► Miss_Shadows
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
PersianLeader: I mean, sure, but it's likely powers bullshit. Argonaut was able to make houses with his power, I have a cousin that lives in one now after the Hoover Dam collapsed from Tāwhirimātea passing over.
► Miestloss (Veteran Member) (PRT Science)
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
That's not quite what Argonaut did, his power tended to fade after a few hours unless managed by another cape or Tinker-Tech. I concede your point though; given the height range of the 'ice,' even when taking into account using the school building as an anchor, whatever this is, is not ice.
► XeonLord
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Miss_Shadows: Does it suck, because I've heard that they suck. Mass production homes via modified containment foam and projection power sounds like it can help fix the housing crisis, until you live in one, right?
Not to say that's its better than the alternative, but still…
Hey, did they finish reconstruction on the Dam? I know that Dragon was going to get involved, but that was like five years ago.
► WolfRun (Wiki Warrior)
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
*Checks* No, construction is to be finished sometime in 2013, to account for new power plants and location. It's going to be larger and have better spillways so it doesn't happen again.
Budget and construction issues have slowed things down, Dragon helping took some pressure off, but it's still going to a hard road.
► Miss_Shadows
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
No she hates it. Half the houses either look the same, are falling apart, or are such a colorful mess that they won't look out of place in a bad area of somewhere like New York.
Good concept, but the reality is the opposite.
► munch_O_matic (Veteran Poster)
Replied On Jan 7th, 2011:
Derail in progress, we should probably get back on track before a mod takes notice.
But while it's happening…
At least Tāwhirimātea made the whole region practically farmland for a while, not exactly to the benefit to those that lost their homes to the flood. But they did manage to recover.
Better than the Great Plains Disaster at least. Tāwhirimātea still avoids that whole area, and I'm sure it's just out of spite at this point.
Which sucks because the latest reports suggest that the area effected is spreading.
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► AllSeeingEye
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
Last_Hurrya: You're lucky to have not gotten banned from that comment actually, trying to figure out a capes ident is practically a criminal offense among parahumans, even among the actual criminals.
Plus, based on your comment, you believe the PRT dribble about the two ways to get powers. Allow me to correct that for you with hard data and studies done around the world.
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► AverageAlexandros (Cape husband)
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
Eye is right, you should have been walking down that road, that way is the way of chaos and anarchy and the very reason that the Unwritten Rules are in play.
Same goes for Triggers, look it up, don't go asking the capes themselves, don't try to work out what happened based on someone's power, even if you're just curious about them and new. You'll figure out why people don't talk about them.
AllSeeingEye: that being said, I detect a hint of aggression from you Eye. Not going to ask the obvious thing, but are you alright? Normally you're the sassy intellectual (with a hint of being an ass), it's not like you to make a snapy comment and leave.
► Last_Hurrya
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
Sorry didn't mean for that to happen. Was just thinking out loud and was wondering how the hell the PRT managed to keep the capes identity secret. It's not like someone could just ask the kids where they were then cross reference after all.
Still am pissed for getting my first warning ever for stating the obvious.
► Robby
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
Just because we can figure out that our new cape was at a school during a school day doesn't mean they were a student there, it could have been a teacher or a guest. Even if they were, Eye is right, we could easily track down the students that went there and then cross-reference those that got out, alive or dead, to figure out who is the new cape, but that's an bad idea.
The last thing we need is another Fleur happening, especially with kids involved.
God only knows what a parent will do to protect their child.
Or avenge them.
So basically, don't do it; if the cape comes out with their identity after this, then that's their decision, not ours.
Last_Hurrya: I'm sure the PRT has stacks of premade NDAs just in case of situations like this.
► AllSeeingEye
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
AverageAlexandros: Under a lot of stress right now, boss is being a dick and the work I'm doing at the moment isn't helping.
… Thanks though.
► IcedS3a
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
What exactly happened with the police and PRT communicating? And why are they making a big deal about it?
Also, other than New Wave, do we know of any capes that have public idents? That not a normal thing, right?
► Tracksuitfive (Brockton Bay City Official)
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
It had to do with how visible the Event was.
With it being able to be seen from most of the city, the BBPD really didn't bother to contact the PRT until they were starting to arrive, meaning the Police Officers first on scene thought that the PRT would have it handled and that they just needed to secure the outer area, only to find that the PRT were expecting the Department to have begun the basic containment procedures when they got there due to the fact it was so visible and the fact they got there first.
Things got sorted out pretty quickly, but there still a few minutes were some members of BBPD were just standing around waiting for the PRT to take care of things, as Parahuman Events are their jurisdiction.
Safe to say this did not look good to those requiring assistance.
Luckily, a number of Officers did assist at the location before the PRT arrived, and an investigation is ongoing into the actions, or lack of, of the first responders.
Rest assured that City Hall and the Chief of Police are working with Director Piggot to both resolve this issue, as well establish new protocols to prevent this from happening again.
► The_Working_Worker (Cape Cameraman)
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
Fuck, it's even worse at night, and I've gotten pics of Endbringer destruction! Link
IcedS3a: There's a few kicking around, the two ones most people know best are Miss Mountain and her husband Mr. Ardor (they still have cape names however, it's an PR thing), mostly through they are recovery people; they travel the world helping to fix up places after disasters, like after Endbringers attacks.
There is also that one kid over in California who can draw stuff out of chalk and bring it into 3D, he was like seven when he Triggered. They almost quarantined the town until the PRT realized they were not only cartoon characters that could be defeated with a squirt bottle, but they were acting like cartoons as well; you know all overdramatic and not really a threat to anyone.
I don't know the limits on his power off the top of my head, but I do remember that while he could draw up guns and bombs that act just like what they looked like, their effects were rather lackluster, meaning his threat rating was quickly dropped.
Last I heard about him he was going to art school on the PRTs dime, but there were no major plans for him to be a heavy hitter for the Protectorate. He apparently won't do much against an Endbringer
► NeverBeAHokage
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
Damn, talk about a night light, I noticed it across town! What effects are we talking about anyway? I know they've moved people away from it, but is it airborne? What symptoms should we be looking for? The press release really didn't say.
► The_Immaterium
Replied On Jan 8th, 2011:
NeverBeAHokage: Oh, you'd know what the effects are, trust me on that one Kiddo.
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AN: Now that I've reached the end of the first arc, I can address some things. (By the Void this A/N is massive, oh, and you guys reading this on SB, I edited some of it for you all. And in two days an actual new chapter will be posted! Not just a re-post from !)
First, the ice tree; you see a lot of them whenever you visit Orokin based locations and at first, I thought of them to be crystalized Void, but then I remembered that there is also those frost traps that slows you down if you run over them that have similar textures, plus the fact that the Void is… well, the Void, so that was out.
But then I remembered that you tend to see lots of water features in Orokin places, but yet the 'plants' in question are overgrown in some places (Lua, the Derelicts), plus you also see them in the back room of your ship, but none of these effect you, so I hit up on the idea that the ice (or water) is used as conduct for Void power (which also fits in with the back of the ship as well; plus there is that fight over the Reservoir that happens with the tree you can activate to refill your Warframes energy).
Plus, it fits with the Orokin mentality, 'oh this is some super dangerous stuff, let's make it into a feature that we can look at to showcase our power over it!'
Course I thought of all this before a reviewer (RicartElit) pointed out what they were called (arboriform) which actually helped me out with this chapter (also thanks to others as well! I put some/most of the first of you in as PHO posters!).
But on the flip side I found an old post about arboriforms because of him and an idea about them on the Warframe Wiki that fit my theory nearly perfectly, so it all worked out better than my original idea of having just a Void Rift open up randomly in the school.
Second, the video that Dragon found. I get that Earth Bet would be somewhat behind in tech due to the whole Powers Thing (and it being an AU because of that), but I also can see basic flip phones with cheap cameras being around; add this to the fact that Wildbow pointed out that the Trio were pushing the school students to keep out of their and Taylors 'business,' but also the fact everyone seemed to know about it (and the fact that hey, it's Worm, it's not a fairy tale world), why wouldn't there be someone recording it for kicks?
Not everyone would be stepping up to help her after all, some might even want to join in because that's just how people can be.
Third, Danny and the DWA. While I maybe pushing what they can do, considering the fact of both Danny's position and what the Bay used to be (a shipping city), it wouldn't be too farfetched to think Danny could do something like I described. We know that he won't, but when you look at both the power involved and the condition of the world, the PRT isn't likely to take chances on anything that could damage their image. After all, if one of Danny's friends calls two of his, and they each call two old friends and so on and so on, then things can get out hand pretty quickly.
(Plus, my head Canon is that the DWA has partially taken over as the place to go to get a blue collar job, given with the fact the Bay had fallen on hard times, the DWA might have folded in with other contractors. Do you need a plumber for your business? Call the DWA, they have skilled certified workers just looking for paying jobs, same as construction workers, etc. While they haven't singled out all the blue collared jobs, a Union can be more than just one set of jobs, plus what else would they be doing if shipping had practically stopped?)
One last thing, I know that it's a slow start, but don't worry, Warframes and their aspects will come (it wouldn't be a good Warframe Crossover without them), but not for some time, sorry. I need to do some world building/forming first, there are reasons I'm doing what I'm doing, just you wait, I might surprise you.
