The Rival of Nazarick

by DWAR

Momonga was not the only guild leader to be transported to the new world. With vast and terrifying legions at his command, this new guild master is eager to live the dream of an evil overlord. But as both guilds seek to expand their influence, it is inevitable that these two dungeons will finally discover one another. And on that day, woe to those caught between their rivalry.

4. A Lesson in Grovelling

Overlords Dicussion

Ainz: How could you?

Morbus: How could I what?

Ainz: How could you torture your teammate's creation?

Morbus: Because I can.

Ainz: But he was created by your former teammate, which means that you have to treat him like family.

Morbus: Is that what was going through your head when you changed the settings of Albedo?

Ainz: uhhhh...thats different.

Morbus: Really? How so. Cause from where I sit, you've basically turned your pseudo niece into a willing sex slave without her creator's/father's consent.

Ainz: That's not...

Albedo: AINNNZZZSAMMMMAAA...IT'S TIME TO START MAKING YOUR HEIR...WHERE ARE YOU AINZSAMMMAAAA?

Morbus: You were saying

Ainz: [Mutters angrily]

Just a little fun idea I had, since I've seen it in another anime stories

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"Speaking"

"Thinking"

"Spell"

Chapter Recap

"A most impressive display my lord Morbus. Truly a magnificent example of why you are the master of the forces of Utumno".

"Yes he is right. A flawless presentation of your abilities my lord. It was truly an honor to witness".

Adopting an expression of cool superiority, the man formerly known as David Wilson slowly turned his body so that he could taken in the bowing forms of 2 of Utumno's strongrest NPCs.

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Despite the fact that the two bowing NPCs were far less threatening in stature than the massive scaled guardian of the treasury, Morbus knew that their creators had purposefully given them the appearance of frail looking old men in order to trick an opponent in lowering their guard. However once that mistake had been made, the unfortunate player would quickly discover that their brief moment of hesitation would become their undoing as the feeble looking NPCs quickly demolished the unsuspecting player.

Knowing this, and feeling more confident in his ability to protect himself should he discover that the still bowing NPCs had no intention of acknowledging his authority, the armored doppelganger took his time in examining the primary creations of Shadowed Lords CookiesAndLightning, and RealmenHaveBeards, taking note that like his own creations, the kneeling NPCs had been created to be perfect replicas of some of the most iconic villains in cinematic history.

Unlike the majority of the Supreme Generals, who had been modeled after the various villainous characters that had existed in Tolkien's world, the NPC created by CookiesAndLightning had been designed to resemble the most successful, not to mention most powerful, villain that had ever existed in the world of science fiction. Wearing a voluminous black colored robe that gave off the impression that one was staring into a black hole, and possessing a face that one would expect on a corpse that had been discovered floating in the water, though the yellow colored eyes were more suitable for a demon rather than a deceased human, Sidious was truly a sight to behold. Along with the grotesque appearance that had made most players wrongly classify him as a zombie, Sidious's creator had also equipped him with a range of classes that granted him the unique ability to fight as either a high leveled magic caster and as a highly skilled warrior, though this had the unfortunate penalty of lowering the devil's HP and MP levels.

His white robed companion on the other hand was under no such limitations, since his creator RealmenHaveBeards had desired an NPC that focused solely on magical abilities, resulting in a character that while generally useless in physical combat was nevertheless able to overwhelm any opponent with his magical prowess. Like Sidious, the the bearded NPC had been modeled to look like their cinematic counterparts, but unlike the gray fleshed devil whose appearance never failed to unerve the more squeamish members of the Shadowed Lords, the physical appearance of the corrupted angel gave off the impression of a stern, yet prideful grandfather who would not hesitate to lecture you if you spoke out of turn. Possessing long white hair that descended past his shoulders, a well groomed beard that drew attention by courtesy of the black stripe running through it, a pointed face that gave off the impression of wisdom and nobility, and armed with a staff that was identical to the one that was used in the movies, it was safe to say that RealmenHaveBeard's NPC was a worthy tribute to the deceased actor who had managed to flawlessly portray the villainous wizard of Tolkeinès literary works.

Remembering that their creators had enjoyed a somewhat tense relationship, mostly caused by CookiesAndLightning's questioning whether his teammate was eventually going to replace his creation with either a red skinned demon or a whiny blonde teenager, Morbus decided that it would be wiser to treat the kneeling NPCs as equals, just on the off chance that his teammate's rivalry carried over to their creations.

"Ah Saruman, Sidious. Welcome. I trust you weren't waiting long as I finished my...experiments"?

Raising his head so that his sickly yellow eyes were staring directly into the molten colored ones of the shape changing overlord, and doing his best to conceal the irritation he felt at having to share the attention of Utumno's ruler with the pompous creation of his master's rival, Sidious responded to the doppelganger's inquiry with a cackling voice that surprisingly still managed to convey the unmistakable tone of a flattering courtier.

"Not to long my lord. But as you are the undisputed leader of the forces of Utumno, it is only natural that your servants allow you to finish your self appointed task until you see fit to acknowledge them".

Pleased with the sinister looking NPC's declaration of loyalty, though he wasn't quite sure if he should trust the word of a being that had been modeled after probably the most deceitful and ambitious character of the beloved sci fi series, Morbus was interrupted from expressing his guarded appreciation for the devil's words by the chastising tone of the more noble sounding NPC.

"Certainty your not suggesting Sidious that lord Morbus needs the approval of lesser beings like ourselves to conduct his affairs. Cause if that's the case, it's not hard to imagine that other treasonous thoughts might be lurking in that melted head of yours".

Gritting his yellow colored teeth at the not entirely unfounded insult dealt to him by his white robed companion, the infuriated devil was prevented from electucting the smirking wizard by the sharp commanding tones of their master.

"Stop that the pair of you. This childish squabbling is unbecoming of servants of your rank, and as such, I won't heistate to to demote the pair of you if you can't act in a manner befiting of your station. Am I clear"?

Though they bowed their heads in compliance to the doppelganger's words, Morbus could tell by the venom filled glares they shot each other that as he had suspected, their creators rivalry had been passed on to them, meaning that they would likely continue their bickering once they were away from his sight.

"Well that answers that question. They definitely inherited the competitive nature of their creators, which I suppose isnt a bad thing on the off chance that my position does not guarantee their loyalty, since it's doubtful whether they can put aside their differences to join forces and overthrow me. However if they allow their rivalry to undermine Utumno's ability to defend itself, then that might prove disastrous".

Knowing that he couldn't have the two NPCs continue their rivalry unchecked, but also knowing that it served as a useful saftey valve in case they started to portray the ambitious qualities of the characters they had been modeled after, the armored doppelganger came up with a solution that would direct their competitive energy into something that would hopefully benefit the underground kingdom as whole.

"Given the variety of skills you two possess, it occurs to me that your competitive energies could be put to greater use than simply blasting each other with spells. Thus you will focus you respective talents on finding new ways to improve the strength of my forces. Naturally I encourage both of you to come up with unqiue methods to accomplish this as long your quest to do so does not negatively impact either myself or your fellow servants. Otherwise not only will I not hesitate to strip you of your positions, but I will also strip you of your abilities so that you'll be even more useless than Lord DancingFool's creation. Do I make myself clear"?

Fighting the urge to drop his fierce countenance in favor of laughing at the NPCs horrified expressions currently as they envisioned a reality where they were even weaker than that amphibious monstrosity, Morbus was thoroughly satisfied that his warning had managed to make a successful impression on the still kneeling NPCs. And not a moment too soon, for just as he was motioning the 2 feeble looking men to rise, a deep rumbling laugh echoed throughout the barren wastes of Anfauglith, breaking the brief moment of silence that had descened after the former librarian had finished his chastisement of the robe wearing NPCs.

"I see that I was not the first to arrive, but I am glad to discover that I arrived just as you were announcing the wizards fate should they continue to let their petty squabbles distract them from serving you adequately my lord. I doub that even my mother the Lady Zanna could have thought of such a suitable punishment for those troublesome enchanters".

Not bothering to hide the smirk that spread across his face as he watched Sidious and Saruman scowl at the mockery of their fellow Supreme General, Morbus turned his attention away from the silently fuming pair to take in the imposing presence of his predecessor's primary creation.

Standing at around 4 meters in height, and wearing a suit of glowing plated armor that barely managed to contain the winged demon's shadow infused flames, it was easy to see why Gothmog had been chosen to lead Utumno's elite forces. For in addition to his terrifying appearance, his creator had equipped him with a variety of job classes that resulted in the fiery demon becoming a literal one man army, being only surpassed in strength by the scaled creation of the Shadowed Lord's accountant.

Keeping this in mind, and greatly relieved when the demonic behemoth knelt before him without any sign of duplicty, the black haired doppelganger adopted the same manner of tone he used when meeting with Ancalagon. Respectful, yet leaving no doubt that he was the one in command.

"Gothmog. So good of you to join us. I trust that you followed the commands I tasked Angmar to give to you"?

Receiving a single nod from the armored head, taking note that it was of a far more elaborate design then that of his bodyguards, Morbus listened with a barely visible display of approval as the kneeling balrog proceeded to report the successful conclusion of his given orders.

"Yes my lord. All 4 legions under my command have been mobilized and are ready to march into battle as soon as you give the word".

Adopting an impassive expression to hide the feelings of nerdish excitement that surged through him at this valuable piece of information, the molten eyed overlord waved his hand for the fiery demon to rise, intent on reaffirming the implications of what he had been told.

"And how many troops is that exactly Gothmog? Its been some time since the armies of Utumno were last mobilized, so I'm afraid that my knowledge of is a bit hazy when it comes to remembering the basic structure of our forces".

Receiving another respectful nod from the now standing demon, Morbus could have sworn that his predecessor's chief creation aimed a brief look of smugness towards his fellow NPCs before describing the composition of his forces.

"As it stands, I have around 16,000 infantry, comprising of 14,000 orcs and 2,000 uruks, 500 warg cavalry, 400 goblin engineers and their war machines, and 100 olog-hai".

Nodding at this information, and doing his best not to cackle like a madman as he realized what he could do with a force that large, the librarian formerly known as David Wilson turned his attention towards the robe wearing NPCs, catching the mixed looks of scorn and jealousy they were casting at the demonic giant before they schooled their expressions into the emotionless masks one would expect from high ranking servants.

"And what about you two? I trust that in your haste to get here, you did not forget to follow the instructions I had Angmar deliver to you"?

Straightening his back to give the impression of a more vigorous man, though the illusion was somewhat ruined by the way in which the elderly NPC leaned on his ornately carved staff, Saruman shot his black robed companion a brief look before adopting an expression that could only be described as prideful.

"Not to worry my lord. I ensured that your orders were carried out before I arrived here. You will be no doubt pleased to hear that all of the forces under my command have been mobilized. Adding an additional 13,000 uruk-kai infantry, which as you know are superior to the standard orc solider, 300 warg cavalry, and a 400 unit comprising of siege engineers. Though I confess something has happened that I did not foresee".

Raising an eyebrow at the wizard's admittance, the pleased doppelganger motioned Saruman to give voice to what was bothering him.

"It appears that despite the fact that I gave no orders to do so, since my forces have reached the quota set forth by the ranking Shadowed Lords, the birthing pits are operating at normal capacity, meaning that in the next month, at least 1,000 more uruk's will be added to your forces".

Doing his best not to betray his surprise at this information, for in YGGDRASIL the Shadowed Lords had been unsuccessful in increasing the size of their forces without the aid of new members, Morbus looked at the white wizard with a look that could only be described as thoughtful.

"This news, while surprising, nevertheless presents us with an opportunity. If our adversaries are only aware of our former strength, then they will base their strategies on that knowledge, which means that if they are confronted with forces that are larger then they had planned for, it is more than likely that we can crush any who would dare attack us".

Nodding his head in approval with the armored doppelganger's plan, for the same thought had occurred to him as well, Sidious's eye's seemed to burn with a fiery intensity as he quickly sought to voice his opinion on the matter.

"An excellent strategy my lord. It is always best to lure in an opponent with outdated information before springing the trap that will ensure their destruction. And though the rank and file of my forces might not be able to match the soldiery of my colleagues on an individual basis, 4 legions comprising of 20,000 goblin warriors is still an adequate force I believe. Though this force can easily be increased since it takes less time and effort for the birthing pits to spawn a goblin warrior than a orc or elite uruk".

Though he could see the merit of Sidious's proposal, for a goblin warrior's primary appeal was that it could be quickly produced in far greater numbers than its more warlike relatives, Morbus nevertheless restrained the urge to shudder as he considered implications of the robed NPC's suggestion.

"Not a chance in hell. In YGGDRASIL, the guild's goblin warriors were only suitable for underground combat, and even then they had to outnumber an enemy at least 15 to 1 in order to stand a chance of bringing them down. The only useful role I would have for goblins would be to...".

Fighting the urge to smirk as an idea formed of how to twist the black robed NPC's suggestion for his own purposes, Morbus was prevented from giving voice to his idea when a melodious, and incredibly sultry voice suddenly announced the arrival of yet another Supreme General.

"Oh please Sidious. The only reason why you would want more of those pathetic little grubs around is so you can have minions who truthfully adore your melted features. I mean seriously, with a face like yours its no wonder why people keep mistaking you for one of the undead, but then lord CookiesAndLightening was known for his tendency to confuse the enemy, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that his creation best exemplifies this trait".

Stifling the desire the laugh at the infuriated expression on the devil's face, though he noticed that neither Saruman or Gothmog were practicing the same restraint, Morbus turned his attention away from the oddly humorous trio and beheld a sight that immediately caused a reaction that would have been impossible in the regulated world of YGGDRASIL.

Created by the first reigning guild leader of the Shadowed Lords, Lord Bauglir, the seductive looking female had been more or less been modeled after the only female villain of Tolkien's works that hadn't been a giant spider, though given the slightly perverse nature of the American born player, his creation turned out looking more like the fan boy version of a undead woman rather than something the famous British author could have come up with.

Wearing a strapless, thigh exposing dress that was not only the color of blood, but also barely managed to contain the ample bosom of the deathly pale NPC, and possessing a face that while beautiful to look upon nevertheless bore an expression that resembled a predator that has yet to decide decide whether it wants to play with its food before it eats it, the raven haired woman was truly a vision.

Taking a moment to smirk at the furious expression of her yellowed eyed colleague, revealing a pair of needle like fangs in the process, Thuringwethil turned her attention towards the only being, apart from her creator, who could make her feel emotions that had nothing to do with disgust she felt when dealing with the incompetence of her fellow servants, or the sadistic joy she felt when ordered to 'take care' of those foolish enough to challenge the will of her masters.

"My deepest apologies my lord. It was not my intent to so blatantly ignore you while I chastised Sidious for his ridiculous idea to enhance your power. A being such as yourself deserves an army that is not only deadly in battle, but can also inspire terror in those who would dare to oppose your will. And frankly, the disease riddled goblin does neither".

Doing his best to ignore the look of lustful admiration he was receiving from the red eyed NPC, a feat that was somewhat difficult given the way her kneeling position gave him an excellent view of her bone white cleavage, Morbus schooled his features back into an expression worthy of a dark lord, and visibly showed his approval with the vampire's declaration before giving voice to his own opinion on how to properly utilize the goblin forces.

"You have a point my dear, but I think you are too quick in dismissing the value of having a vast horde of goblins at my command. While their combat ability is somewhat... lacking when compared to the other soldiers of Utumno, they possess talents that make them worth having, even if their appearance is somewhat less than aesthetically pleasing".

Motioning the now pouting vampire to rise, and noticing that Sidious was not bothering to hide the aura smugness that stemmed from the belief that the doppelganger was about to approve his plan, Morbus had to keep himself from smiling as his continued to explain just what he had in mind for the goblin forces.

"As your probably aware, all great civilizations have been built on the backs of a centrally directed labor force, who while lacking the means to enhance the glory of their host nation's through military conquest, nevertheless manage to contribute to an empire's continued prosperity by virtue of their hard work".

Sensing the direction of his lord's thoughts, and noticing that his yellowed eyed colleague was sporting an expression that clearly stated that he too had come to the same conclusion as he had, Saruman couldn't prevent the smirk that was spreading across his face as he expressed his admiration for the guild master's plan.

"So what your saying my lord, is that you want to create a labor force that is both numerous, easy to expand, and no great loss if they somehow loose their lives while they fulfill their appointed tasks"?

Nodding his head at the wizard's accurate description of his intent, and noticing that the other NPCs were expressing approval with his plan, though judging by Sidious's expression it was easy to see that he only did so grudgingly, the armored doppelganger decided to finish his explanation that he hoped would establish his reputation as a wise, yet somewhat generous leader.

"Exactly. The goblin forces will no longer be deployed on the front lines, though their skills in siege warfare will ensure that each legion possess a battalion of goblin engineers, and will primarily be used for building, mining, and as cannon fodder to test the military capabilities of any future opponents".

Noticing the fierce scowl that was currently being sported by the black robed NPC, and thinking that it would probably be best not to piss off a being modeled after a grudge carrying sociopath, the former librarian decided to appeal to the glowering devil's reason before he could further stew in his fury.

"Naturally, it would be the height of stupidity to leave such a hole in our ranks, and since Sidious has already raised the valid point about misdirecting our enemies as to the true strength of our forces, it stands to reason that the loss of troops will be made good. I take it that if the birthing pits are capable of producing 1,000 uruks a month at normal capacity, they can produce an additional number of orcs if their operating at full efficiency"?

Frowning in thought at his master's inquiry, hiding the feelings of relief and gratefulness that sprung from the black haired overlord's decision to let him retain a military command, Sidious promptly delivered an answer that would hopefully be met with approval by the molten eyed doppelganger.

"Under such circumstances, and supposing you don't want to decrease the production of more uruks, I predict that at least 3,000 orc soldiers could be produced each month. Though if you desire to temporarily halt uruk production, then the figure rises to 6,000".

Taking a moment to consider the options provided to him by the grey skinned devil, and seeing that the other NPCs were eagerly waiting on his decision, Morbus decided on a course of action that he hoped would be met with approval by the military leaders of Utumno's forces.

"For now, I think it would be best to have the pits produce both kinds of troops since it's wiser to have a balanced force than to have an army that consists of only one type of solider. That being said, while the majority of the troops created will go towards rebuilding your forces Sidious, 300 orcs, and 200 uruks will be taken from this month's production to form an operational reserve that will only be used in an emergency. Apart from that, the rest of the orc production is yours Sidious, while you will have to split the produced uruk's with Saruman. I trust their will no be objections"?

Consciously activating one of the basic abilities of the Overlord class in order to make it clear that he would broker no argument from the elderly looking NPCs, though this had the unintended, but nevertheless interesting, effect of causing the seductive vampire to openly stare at him with a look that could only be described as carnal fascination, Morbus was pleased to discover that not only did the low level Aura of Despair work on the two robe wearing NPCs, though this might have had something to do with his equipment's abilities, but that his actions met the approval of a familar booming voice that decided to announce its presence.

"I must say my Lord Morbus, your method in dealing with your more irksome underlings is quite impressive. But given that you are the supreme ruler of Utumno, it is to be expected".

Allowing his amusement to be visible as he turned his head to stare into the reptillian eyes of the surprisingly stealthy NPC, the doppelganger responded to the dragon's observation before noticing that trailing in the wake of the black scaled reptile were the two remaining Supreme Generals of Utumno.

"Now now Ancalagon, theirs no need for flattering, though I am pleased to discover that my disciplinary methods are regarded as fair by my most powerful servant. But enough about that,apart from Thuringwethil, you and your two companions are the only one's who have yet to inform me about the status of your forces".

Turning his attention away from the now grinning dragon in favor of staring into the seemingly empty hood of the deathly silent NPC, the black haired overlord ensured their was an underlining tone of warning in his voice as he spoke to his most powerful creation.

"As for you Angmar, I trust that your presence here means that you've completed all the tasks I gave you? Cause what you discovered will influence what course of action I will take once I've gained a complete understanding of the forces under my command"?

Receiving a single nod from the armored wraith, Morbus's features shifted from his serious expression into something that could be only described as bored.

"Good good. Thuringwethil, since you were here before the others, you have my permission to go first".

Curtsying in a manner that would have put any noblewoman to shame, though the former librarian doubted that polite society would accept a woman with such a revealing and form fitting dress, and shooting a somewhat challenging smirk towards one of the newly arrived NPCs, the raven haired vampire proceeded to inform her master about the composition of her forces.

"Thank you my lord. Since receiving the order to mobilize, I have around 600 war bats, and 50 vampiric assassins ready for battle at a moments notice. And while these numbers may not sound impressive when compared to the forces under the command of Gothmog and the two geriatrics over their, I point out that not only do my forces possess an aerial capability that is only surpassed by Ancalagon and his underlings in terms of power, but they can also increase your forces by converting opponents into lesser vampires".

Nodding in approval at this bit of information, for reading 20th century history books had made the former librarian aware of the importance of aerial supremacy when conducting a military campaign, Morbus turned his attention towards the black scalped reptile, motioning with his hand that he was to begin his own summarization of the forces under his command.

"To increase your command of the air, I have 20 winged uruloki ready to head out at a moments notice, with the 10 flightless ones serving in a support role for the force of 30 cold drakes that we'll be held in reserve should the enemy manage to somehow breach the front gates".

Adopting a somewhat blood thirsty smirk as he imagined the amount of chaos that his dragon forces would create once they were unleashed, the armored doppelganger turned his attention towards a sight that briefly managed to cause a stab of nostalgia to pass through him.

Created by guild member FrauleinDarkSide, who enjoyed the distinction of being his most trusted friend during the course of his time in YGGDRASIL, and modeled after a character that no longer existed in the official cannon of history's greatest science fiction franchise, the green eyed NPC was a vision that could make a fan boy out of even the most prudish of men. While lacking the seductive aura of her fellow female, the red haired woman nonetheless possessed a body that could rival the provocative appearance of the raven haired vampire. While her black leather body suit revealed no visible skin, the form clinging material clearly showed off her athletic body, from her taunt stomach, her shapely legs, and her rather large chest, though Morbus idly noted that it was slightly smaller than Thurwingethil's.

Hoping that his expression had remained impassive while taking in the appearance of his most valued friend's creation, though judging by the somewhat unreadable expression on the vampire's face he guessed that wasn't the case, the crown wearing doppelganger unconsciously softened his tone as he addressed the stoic looking female.

"And what about your forces Mara? Are they ready for deployment at a moment's notice"?

Coming to perfect attention with a speed that not even most grizzled drill sergeant could complain about, and freezing her face into an emotionless mask as she stared into the molten colored eye's of her creator's most trusted companion, the NPC known as Mara Jade lacked the gloating tone of her fellow generals, but nevertheless somehow managed to convey the pride she felt in being able to answer the doppelganger's inquiry.

"Yes my lord. I have 20 Sith Assassins, 30 Hands, 5 lesser doppelgangers, and 1 hommunculi ready to follow what ever it is you would have them do. Though I feel that I must point out that my forces are geared towards espionage, and small unit combat rather than pitched battle against hordes of opponents".

Humming in contemplation at this useful piece of information, for it never hurt to have a network of spy's at his beck and call, Morbus nodded his head in a pleased manner before turning the weight of his gaze towards his personal creation, who promptly bowed his armored head and answered his master's unspoken command.

"The 4 legions under my command have all be mobilized my lord, providing your army with an additional force of 8000 uruks, 8000 orcs, and 200 olog-hai. I also have the scout reports with me, and what they discovered is very interesting".

Motioning with his hand that his chief wraith was to continue his report, and allowing only a single raised eyebrow to show his interest in what the blacked robed NPC had to say, Morbus had to agree with Angmar's description of what he discovered.

It was indeed, very interesting.

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And I think this is a good place as any to leave off lol. If I continued on...it would take another 3 weeks before I published the chapter, and since I have neglected my other stories in favor of this one, I felt it was time to step back and see how much interest this one generates before i begin another chapter lol.

Hopefully your all enjoying the story. Will be making SOME changes in future regarding the whole Race/Job Classification (been pointed out to me that a player can have one than more racial class, was operating under the impression that was not the case {havent bought the light novel, and getting my info from Overlord Wiki, and the character data sheets on the net}...as well as adding the descriptions of the newly introduced NPCs, so dont worry they will come.

On that note...and not just because I recently got into magic the gathering XD...certain spells that my character knows will be taken from other sources than the anime...so hopefully your ok with that :)

Pleased with how the NPC development is coming, and so you know ALL of my NPCS do exist, some are just more well known than others unless u happen to be a true Star Wars, and Tolkein nerd...Which I Proudly am :P. Tried to stay truthful to their personalities (though some of them are difficult due to the lack of information...i.e. Gothmog, Thuringwethil, Ancalagon dont really have speaking roles in Tolkein..not to mention an agreed upon physical appearance...so had to fall back on what the internet provided lol.

As for my OC's development, think its safe to say that his former life as a well red librarian would help him to adapt to his new life style, (nothing beats an arm chair general after all lol) and if I offend anyone for the role I'm having the goblins play, my apologies...playing off what Tolkein said:

"They make no beautiful things, but they make many clever ones. They can tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble, though they are usually untidy and dirty".

And since this is a guild based on evil beings (though Jade is somewhat ambiguous given her allegiance change) my take was that if the OC was gonna do something that might cause his NPCs to rebel, he would need a reason that could be accepted.

Also glad at having a firm number of the hordes of Utumno..one thing that always annoyed me in Tolkeins, and to a lesser extend Lucas's works, is that their is no firm idea of just how big the armies are.

So as it stands...my OC has:

22,000 Orcs (these are the ones from Return of the King, not the Battle of the Five Armies),

23,000 Uruk-Kai (I believe the Two towers has them chanting 13,000 for Saruman so its reflected in the story)

20,400 Goblins (These are Unexpected Journey Goblins, not Moria ones)

800 Warg Riders (These are Hobbit Trilogy ones),

300 Olog-Hai (The armored trolls that broke the gate in Return of the King)

600 Vampire War Bats (BOTFA)

20 Winged Dragons (Hungarian Horntail size) and 40 flightless ones.

50 Vampire assassins,

20 Sith Assassins,

30 Hands,

5 lesser doppelgangers,

1 hommunculi with personality disorder (Hopefully you can all guess who this is lol)

Of course I also included the option for expansion...since I presume the limits YGGDRASIL placed on unit creation would be gone in the new world (not a hundred percent sure if thats true or not, but will keep it like that) even if a players combat ability is the same.

Anyways...Thanks for Reading...Reviews are always Welcome (no flames)

AND BE Sure to VOTE on MY PROFILE'S POLL for who you think should be the lower ranked NPCs

ookiesAndLightning, and RealmenHaveBeards

Saruman

Creator: RealmenHaveBeards

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Sidious

Creator:CookiesAndLightning

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Gothmog

Creator:Lady Zannah

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Thuringwethil

Creator: Lord Baugli

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Mara Jade

Creator:FrauleinDarkSide