Sorry it took so long again to update, mainly on account writers block again, along with this chapter being the one that gave me so much trouble trying to write that had me editing it many times to get it write, but anyway, here is the talk that Ulfric has with Odin.


As the week was getting closer to being over, and closer to when he will be heading back home to Skyrim, Ulfric had been taking notice at how the relationship that Loki has with her father Odin looked, to Ulfric, strained, and at times, forced whenever he would see the two interacting together, with him also taking notice at how Odin had a certain 'look' to him that Ulfric was sure showed hatred, while Loki simply would look at Odin with nothing but distrust. As for Loki's relationship with Frigga, it seemed the relationship between those two was still the same as it always was, but to Ulfric, something about Frigga seemed 'off' to him, like she was hiding something that just didn't seem right to him.

Deciding to wait until Loki left with the girls to spend the day with Frigga and her ladies, Ulfric was going to see Odin and have a little 'talk' with him about his mistreatment of his own daughter. As the Nord was walking down the large halls, he asked a nearby servant for directions to Odin's office, which the servant gave him. Thanking the servant, Ulfric used those directions and after minutes of waking, he found himself outside the large doors of Odin's office. Finding the office doors were surprisingly unlocked, Ulfric opened one of the doors and walked into the large office, and while he wouldn't mind exploring the room, that wasn't what was important now.

Closing the door to make it look like nobody enter the room, he then started walking over to what had to be Odin's desk, and when he was skimming at the documents on the desk, trying not to read what they said, when something caught his eyes, and that was a drawing, a drawing that was clearly done by a small child, and from what he could roughly make out, the name on this was Thor's name and he was 3 at the time. Curious, Ulfric looked around the desk and found four other drawings that were also done by Thor from the ages 4-8, complete with marks of praise, even-though all five drawings themselves, even as it showed Thor's ages, all looked terrible and looked like someone younger did this. He did find, hiding behind Thor's first drawing, a drawing that belonged to Loki, since her name was on it and this showed she was also 3 when this drawing was made, and while the drawing looked very well done for someone her age and looked like someone older made it, it was what Odin had written, with the writing showing how 'terrible' the drawing was and how Thor did a better job at drawing than she did.

Seeing that was putting Odin in more of a bad light than he already was to Ulfric, and while Ulfric himself does also put a few drawings belonging to his daughters on his desk, he doesn't criticize one and praise the other, he praises them both. Soon enough, he heard the sound of a familiar voice belonging to Odin, along with others that had to be members of his court, immediately, Ulfric stopped what he was doing and kept quiet, waiting for Odin to enter. Soon enough, the door began opening with Odin entering the room, not even noticing Ulfric standing by his desk, and after a few minutes, when Odin did finally notice the younger man, he was shocked to see him.

Recovering from his shock, "Ulfric. I didn't expect to see you here." Expecting to have a pleasant visit from his son-in-law, only what Ulfric said next left him speechless.

"I'm not here for pleasantries Odin." Ulfric started. "I have important things to discuss with you. Things that involve your mistreatment of my wife and why you hate her."

Trying to find the right words, "I never mistreated her and I don't hate her." Odin said, defending himself.

But to Ulfric, Odin's actions spoke louder that his words did, and to give an example, he used those drawings that Thor and Loki did to prove his point as he walked over towards Odin. "Your saying you never mistreated her, and yet, these drawings here show that you clearly favor Thor, whose drawings looked like they were done by someone even younger. While the one done by Loki looked like it was done by someone older, and yet you praise Thor and criticize Loki, showing just how early on the mistreatment started and how young she was at the time."

With Ulfric stating a fact that Odin tried so hard to either hide or ignore, the Asgardian was going to speak up and try and defend himself again, only on how he didn't mistreat Loki, but Ulfric stopped him again. "And when it comes to you saying you don't hate your own daughter, I could see that you do, on account the times I would see you both interact, and how it looked to be forced. I even noticed how you would both look at each other, Loki with distrust towards you, and you with the look of hatred at her. And I will ask you this again. Why do you hate Loki so much." saying the last sentence in a very serious tone.

"I don't hate my daughter." Odin repeated back to Ulfric, also in a serious tone.

But Ulfric wasn't buying it. "Quit lying Odin and tell the truth."

"I'm not lying!" Odin cried out, desperate at trying to prove he doesn't hate his own daughter, and to also look intimidating, but with how tall Ulfric was compared to him, that had little effect.

But the Nord kept at it, knowing that Odin will admit the truth. "Yes you are Odin! Quit lying to yourself and admit the truth!"

"I AM TELLING YOU THE TRUTH!"

"No you are not! Tell me why do you hate Loki so much you blind, foolish old man!"

"BECAUSE SHE'S NOT WHAT A PROPER ASGARDIAN PRINCESS SHOULD BE!" Odin snapped.

Silence was then heard once Odin finally admitted as to why he hates Loki so much, and all it took was Ulfric to essentially, say the words that Thor said to him when he banished his son to Midgard. Once letting the truth sink in, Ulfric then said, "That is what all this is about? You hate her all because she's not what an Asgardian Princess should be?"

"Yes. It is." Odin said, finally admitting his defeat. Gesturing for him and Ulfric to sit down on two nearby chairs. Once settled, Odin took a breath and finally done the one thing he thought he would never do, and that is telling the truth. "In Asgardian society, back when more Princesses were being born into the royal family and less were being married into the royal family, those Princesses were raised very strictly and had to obey and follow everything they were raised for. Those included being forbidden to fight, not being aloud to use magic in anything but for family reasons and for healing, along with being married off for political reasons and not for love."

As Odin was explaining how Princesses of Asgard were raised, this made Ulfric angry, since to him, all of this was just so stupid and biased, and he made sure Odin knew it. "Do you even realize just how biased and stupid that is? You hating Loki all because she didn't behave like the Princesses that Asgard used to be like along time ago. Let's start with the fact that Loki isn't even Asgardian, she's a Jotun, a completely different race all together, and yes, she is a warrior that uses her magic in the battlefield who married for love, is there anything wrong with that?

"And you saying how political marriages are common for a Princess to be forced into, to me, that shows that you Asgardians would rather take the easy way out of dealing with the problems that you want with the ones the political marriage is with. In Skyrim, we call marriages like that as a marriage out of convenience, and in Asgard's case, a political marriage is one that is also out of convenience, but only for you, the ones arranging it, not for the ones being forced into the marriage in the first place." Pausing, then speaking again, "Now why don't you also explain why you took her in the first place and lied to her about her heritage."

Taking a deep breathed sigh, Odin then said, "Originally, I took her to use her as a political marriage between her and Thor as a way to bring permanent peace between Asgard and Jotunheim, but Frigga ruined it when she introduced Loki as Thor's new baby sister, ruining all my plans for a permanent peace, so instead, I had to solely rely in our truce instead, which included banning all travel to Jotunheim. And for why I never told her the truth, I assumed at the time that no matter what age she was, she wouldn't be able to handle the truth, and by seeing how her fake handled it, I should of told her when she was younger." Odin said, admitting his defeat, again.

"You should of indeed told her of her heritage when she was younger, since children have an easier time at excepting the truth than adults do, and for your plan for peace, while that was a good idea, and I will agree, Frigga should not have done what she did. But, why would you assume that a spoiled, arrogant, over-grown child like Thor would keep the peace, since he's proven that he thirsts for war, thinking he'll get nothing but glory, when in truth, all he'll get is seeing the ones he calls his shield-siblings dying in his arms, whispering the names of their families as they are dying." Ulfric said, in a tone that to Odin, sounded like he knows from experience what war brings.

"While I will admit, I did have a large hand at causing Thor's arrogance by spoiling him far too much and letting him get away with things that he should of been punished for, but most of the blame for Thor's arrogant and over-grown childish nature comes from that band of friends of his known as the Warriors Three and Sif that encouraged his arrogant nature, just to get higher standings for themselves." Odin said, but now, it was his turn to ask Ulfric a question, "You sound like you know what war is like. Is there a reason for it?"

Answering him, "I know from experience. I fought in two wars, the second war was more recent and that was the civil war Skyrim was in for us that live in Skyrim to be free of a dying empire that bends to the knees of their Thalmor masters when those Thalmor not only outlawed Talos worship, but in their victory high, they started outlawing other means of worship, leaving only just the divines that the Thalmor themselves worship. As for the first war I was in, it was the Great War, which I joined at the age of 15, even-though I should of been 16 at the time to join, I lied out my age, and it was being in war at a younger age that got me to see what war is truly like."

Eventually, after a while of talking, Odin asked Ulfric, "What should I do regarding Loki?" Unsure of where he should start.

Answering Odin, "First, you find Loki and tell her the entire truth. Which includes why you hated her, why you mistreated her, why you hid her heritage from her, and the real reason why you took her in the first place." Ulfric said, with Odin looking at him, thinking over what he said, and agreeing at doing just that.

A few hours after his talk with Ulfric, Odin was going to find Loki, when he found her sitting on one of the cushioned benches in the hallway, crying, while the twins were also on the bench napping. This had him worried at what caused his daughter to get this upset, that when he sat down next to her, startling her, he noticed a red mark on her scared left cheek that looks almost like a hand-print.

Taking a deep breath, Odin then spoke. "Why are you upset?"

Startled, then looking at him with her tear soaked face, Loki then said, "I got into an argument with mother."

"And the red mark..." he was about to continue, no doubt he knew what caused it.

"Mother slapped me for calling her a selfish, self-centered hagraven." Loki said. "Of course she deserved to be called that for calling me a selfish child for not wanting to stay in Asgard."

As Loki explained to Odin more about what her argument with Frigga, Odin, taking Ulfric's advice finally did the one thing he should of done along time ago, telling the truth. He told Loki about how the princesses of old were treated, and with how many centuries went by without a princess being born to Asgard and were only there through marriage, he assumed that with Loki, she would be like what it was centuries ago. As for Loki, while she was angry at Odin for using old biased ways on raising her, but after hearing his reason why, she didn't feel all that angry at him. And why he hid her heritage, Odin really did think that if she was told at a young age, she wouldn't of handled it, but seeing as how the fake didn't handle it well, it made him see that he was wrong about that and should of told Loki her heritage sooner than never. And when he told her why he took her in the first place, much like Ulfric, Loki did had to admit, marrying her to Thor was a good idea, until Frigga ruined it a introduced her to Thor as his sister instead of his future wife. And it turns out, Odin admitted to Loki that he did play a big part in Thor's arrogant nature, but to Loki's surprise, Odin even admitted that he was fully aware of how terrible Thor's friends were and how much they influenced Thor's arrogant nature, just to further their own statuses.

As the two continued talking, things were actually starting to get better for them now. In fact, their father-daughter relationship was actually far more improved than it ever was to begin with, and it was all thanks to Ulfric, with Loki thanking her husband greatly for it.


Now that this chapter is done with, only two more to go, with the next one having Loki and Frigga talking. And if anyone is wondering, I am aware that I didn't include Odin talking about his mistreatment towards Loki, and to me, I see it as more of by accident that Odin mistreated Loki in favor of Thor.