Hey all! My friend taught me a nifty trick to fix the spacing because I am oblivious to these sorts of things. In addition to critiques about the actual story, I want some feedback on the new format! If you guys like it I'll go back and change the other chapters to single space for each person's chat reply. If not I'll change the spacing in this one to match the others and continue to do it the old way.

In other news, y'all better get comfy, cause this time we're having a long-ass history lesson full of secrets and triggers ;)

I do not own Homestuck. But I like to talk about it :3

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CG: You're here early.

TT: What, am I not allowed in here before a certain time?

CG: If I had my way, you wouldn't be allowed here at all!

TT: Yeah, I missed you too.
TT: I'd like to bring up something from our last discussion.

CG: If you want to know about buckets, go get your head stuck in one.

TT: I'm being serious here.
TT: I had a chance to talk with a friend a few days ago, and she piqued my interest, but I'd like to know more about Alternian history.

CG: You're joking.

TT: No, I'm not.

CG: You are definitely trying to troll me.

TT: Do you want to talk about buckets instead? I know you said you didn't want to but to me that sounds like you really want to.

CG: This is not a fucking game of reverse psychology, numbskull.
CG: If I tell you what you want to know will you leave?

TT: I'm not the type of dude to make promises I can't keep.
TT: Question: the caste system. What exactly is the deal with that?

CG: Of course you go for the obvious shit.
CG: I refuse to answer that question.

TT: Why? Does it personally offend you or something?

CG: If you are implying I am resentful because I hold a low position on the 'totem pole,' then let me just tell you fuck off. My position in the hierarchy will remain a secret.

TT: Do you ever get anything from being so difficult? I just want to know what the deal is. I am trying to take an interest in your culture, but you refuse to teach me anything.

CG: Quit whining.
CG: I'll tell you some basic information. Happy?

TT: Happier than you at the moment, at least.

CG: Fuck you.
CG: Anyway, the caste system had a larger number of tiers than most systems.
CG: I only say 'had' because according to the US government, the system has been abolished, and if I were to tell you the truth that things are no better than they were before I could go to prison for being some sort of troublemaker.
CG: There were the two 'outcastes,' and then the real hierarchy begins. I will list them in order from lowest to highest and in your native tongue to make it easier on your pathetic think pan.
CG: Burgundy, Bronze, Ochre, Olive, Jade, Teal, Cerulean, Indigo, Purple, Violet, Fuchsia.

TT: 11 castes? Must be hard to keep track of.

CG: Believe me, you never mistake one class for another, and you never forget a class. Ever.

TT: Sounds ominous. But can I ask why they're color-coded?

CG: If you would wait 10 goddamn seconds, I was about to explain!
CG: And yes, it was meant to sound ominous, moron.
CG: Because Alternia was in isolation for so long, we developed a mutation. The classes were named based on eye color.

TT: Hold up.

CG: Why do you keep interrupting?

TT: The castes were formed based on eye color? And it's not even an Alternia-specific mutation. One of my best friends has pink eyes.

CG: Just let me finish!
CG: It wasn't like we just went "hey, that shade of purple is pretty, let's make this class our royalty!"
CG: The color of the eyes is actually typically associated with other genes. Our society was formed around that. For instance, the Fuchsias tended to be more militaristic, especially the females, so they became the rulers of the continent. On the flipside, the Burgundys were more pacifistic and willing to do jobs that nobody else wanted. At least, that's how it was before they essentially became slave labor and began to resent their position.
CG: In essence, each eye color group had other traits that allowed them to carve out their own place in the hierarchy.

TT: That seems pretty haphazard, but I suppose it's better than using 'divine right.'

CG: Don't get me started on religion. There is a whole shitload of crazyfuck Purple Juggalos and that is somewhere even I am afraid to go.

TT: I know it's a touchy subject, but does this have anything to do with when AC's "brother" called you a lowblood?

CG: He is higher on the spectrum, if that was your question. But that still doesn't tell you how high either of us is.

TT: I'm going to take a wild guess and say that he is an Indigo, based on his text color. I did a little surfing around this site a while back, and everyone here has a text color that falls on the spectrum. Except you.

CG: I reserve the right to keep my caste level private from nooksniffers like you.

TT: Fine, we won't talk about you for the sake of preserving your modesty. You mentioned two outcastes, so can you tell me a little more about that?

CG: That adds a whole new level of complicated that is going to take a while to explain. You might get bored.

TT: Thanks for the warning, but unlike you I can sit still and be patient for more than 3 seconds at a time.

CG: If you don't shut the fuck up I just won't say anything else. You should be grateful I even told you that much.

TT: What if I said please?

CG: …
CG: If you keep interrupting I'm going to log out and that will be the end of it, capiche? I'm probably the only one who will even sparingly talk to you about it, so going to the others won't help you at all.

TT: My lips are sealed tighter than a motherfucking Spacebag.

CG: Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?
CG: Don't answer. It was rhetorical.
CG: Anyway, the two outcastes were the Reds and the Limes, for different reasons.
CG: Way back when, those primitive Alternians with their underdeveloped think pans didn't understand that blood is red. They thought everyone's blood was the same color as their eyes. When people were wounded and they bled, or when females suffered the 'affliction' of menstruation, they thought there was something wrong. That they were being 'infected' or something to that effect, which is why they were in pain.
CG: Because Reds had the eye color to match the 'infected' blood, they were treated worse than trash. Many were killed, or kept as sex slaves, or other things.
CG: Honestly, I think the highbloods knew the truth, but wanted to use the Reds as a method of controlling the other castes. Let other levels beat them down to make them feel empowered even though they were no better than fishfood themselves.

TT: …

CG: Now the other caste.
CG: The lime bloods were really intelligent, like beyond genius, and the highbloods didn't like that
CG: The thing is, the Limes were using their smarts to try and overthrow the current caste system. They wanted to be the heads of a new system. Obviously there would still be castes, but the Limes would be the ones running the show. They said it was in the name of equality. That they couldn't get rid of the system entirely, but that they could alleviate some of the oppression, discrimination, poverty, violence, etc.
CG: I have no way of knowing if they genuinely believed they were doing something for the greater good, or if they were just greedy, violent assholes. They were all wiped out, so I guess there's no way to find out either.

TT: I know you said no interrupting, but how did they get wiped out? If they were smart shouldn't they have been able to at least save themselves, even if they couldn't win?

CG: See, that's what they thought too. And maybe some individuals did survive, escaping to another nation and assimilating with the Cherub culture on Zillyhoo (or so the theory goes). But with a little luck and a lot of brute force, the Limes as a whole didn't stand a chance.
CG: I guess the Limes had so much of the highbloods' focus that they even forgot about the other outcaste for a time. Even after the war was over, the other freaks were left alone to a degree. The highbloods had made their point through mass genocide, so no one was going to be stupid enough to bother them for a very long time.

TT: Holy shit.

CG: What, did you think I came from a culture of fucking rainbows and rectangular sugartreats like a fucking Nyancat?

TT: Most people just call them Poptarts.
TT: And, honestly, I had no idea there was so much violence. It's still like that?

CG: The US government hasn't been able to do anything. Not that they ever have anyway, stupid bureaucrats. The younger generation seems a little less racist in general, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes.
CG: As you can see, people like sweatydick are still really stuck in the old system. CA is a real piece of work too. But even TC and CC are nicer highbloods. If TC wasn't, we would never have become friends.

TT: What about you?

CG: What about me?

TT: Are you one of the bluebloods, just lower on the tier system, and are trying to be considerate of those lower than you by hiding your color?
TT: Or are you even lower than that?

CG: First off, the correct term is the actual colors. Saying blueblood is equivalent to a racial slur, as it incorporates multiple classes and implies they are all equal. Second, I already told you that it isn't any of your fucking business.

TT: Dude, I am a gay guy in a state where homosexuality used to be a criminal offense. It's not the same as what you've been through, but what makes you think I'm going to judge you based on your eye color? I mean, shit, the Alternian enthusiast friend I mentioned before is from Zillyhoo, and despite the stigma on 'Cherubs' I genuinely like her a lot.
TT: You are an asshole. I will judge you based on that, not on some uniformed stereotype.

CG: You sure know how to bond with a guy and be understanding. Maybe you should go write a book about it and just leave me the fuck alone.

TT: Kar, come on.

CG: WHAT THE FUCK?

TT: What?

CG: WHO SAID YOU COULD CALL ME THAT?

TT: Nobody.

CG: Then why would you suddenly think it's okay?!

TT: More or less, it's easier than typing out Karkat, and it sounds more personable than CG.

CG: Why the fuck would being more personable than CG be a reason?

TT: It might surprise you to know, but I'm not a masochist. I don't come here to be verbally ripped a new one every time I type a sentence. I genuinely enjoy the conversation when you aren't being too much of an angsty bastard.
TT: I was even nice enough not to make a NyanKarkat joke.

CG: …
CG: You are a manipulative piece of shit.
CG: I actually am a member of the outcastes.
CG: My eyes are red.

TT: Was that really so hard?

CG: When you used to live in a place where you got beaten up just for being alive, it is.

TT: … I can relate to a degree.

CG: … Being 'abnormal' sucks.

TT: I'd rather be who I am than one of those people who make it bad to be different.

CG: I'm shocked. You actually managed to say something profound.

TT: I can drop a pearl of wisdom or two when I feel like it. You better tuck that little beauty away like you were a greedy treasure hoarder.

CG: If I wanted a pearl I would go oyster diving instead of wasting my time talking to you.

TT: You would be a shitty pirate.

CG: If you want to talk about shitty pirates, you should go talk to spider8itch. Anyway, I have other things to do.

TT: I still have questions, so expect to see me in a few days.

CG: As if I would be able to expect anything else given your track record for pissing me the fuck off.
CG: Asshat.

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