A few weeks had passed since they had found Dick and they had kept a close eye on him, he seemed fine but they knew the outside didn't mean a thing. Since Slade's arrest beast boy had become even more protective of Nightwing he all but killed Batman when he told Nightwing to stop acting like he knew best after all he did nearly get the team captured. That seemed to be the last straw for Roy who punched Batman and stormed off even Artemis had stood up for him. Batman turned to say sorry but Nightwing was gone.

A week after that Arrow had given Roy a hard time for not telling him about his daughter. In the end Arrow told Roy he was clone so what did he know about parenting. It was Wally that found him with blood smeared down his arms.

A few days later Wally was also getting yelled at by his mentor. Wally had run to Paris because he was bored but he had run out of nutrients and was stranded. Wally felt himself shake and had ran off. Roy and Dick shared a look that didn't go unnoticed before running to the zeta tube. Dick was the one who knocked the blade out of his best friend's hands.
"No Wally this isn't right!" Wally for his part looked at Dick incredulously.
"You do it you hypocrite!"
"Yeah but I will dam well not sit here and watch you fall to for god's sake Wally you've see what that damned blade has done why the hell would you subject yourself to that!"
"I DESERVE IT OK! Don't you see I'm such a disappointment, I didn't even get my powers on accident I wanted it to happen even my dad said it was a curse I need to punish myself." Roy went to intervene but Dick stood up, fuming.
"They would be even more disappointed in you if you felt that they hated you THEY LOVE YOU, YOU ABSOLUTE MORON!" the boys looked at Dick in shock but he wasn't done.
"FOR GOD'S SAKE PEOPLE NEED YOU WALLY… IRIS LOVES YOU AND SO DO BARRY AND YOUR PARENTS…. They're just scared walls. I need you even if nobody else does and I know you weren't trying to die but one wrong cut could kill you. If you died people would notice." Tears streamed down dicks face and Roy felt his heart drop at what the youngest was insinuating.
"You would be missed too Dickie"
"I wouldn't. You two might miss me for a while but you'd get over it. You can't die you've got a daughter if nothing else and Wally is a lovable idiot everyone loves, I on the other hand only stay on this god forsaken planet for you two. The Robins hate me deep down I'm the 'golden boy' but Bruce doesn't give a damn. He completely blanks me now. Alfred cares but…. He doesn't deserve to have my burden." The others tried to disagree but Dick was adamant. Eventually everyone calmed down, unaware that their mentors had just heard everyting that had been said.