The links are broken...and I don't care. They're mostly just DA fanart of Homestuck Jessica felt like sending, and I pretty much describe each of them, so if you think I'm describing your artwork, then...let me know, I guess, and I'll give credit later. :) There's also a broken link to a Youtube video in there, but it's completely unrelated. XD Jessica and I become sort of art critics here, and we talk about the types of art and pairings we enjoy, and the stuff in fanart we just can't quite understand. Can anyone explain Gamzee/Tavros to us?

Oh, by the way, all of her frustrated sentences and re-posting links were because the links weren't working in the chat.


DA Spamming

After I left FB and was long gone:

JESSICA

I was looking for something that was not this, but this was too cute, so you have to look at it. I will continue to search for what I was looking for that was not this. But all of this will be inconsequential because you will return long after I find the thing I was originally searching for. .com/art/Homestuck-a-little-gift-pt1-212579620

JESSICA

and i rather like this one. .com/?q=homestuck trolls&order=9&offset=144#/d3d33jc

still not the one i was looking for though

JESSICA

.com/?q=homestuck trolls&order=9&offset=168#/d3hzrlu

Look at teh stupidity! (Still not that picture, it's more elusive than a shadow at high noon)

JESSICA

and apparently Gamzee and Tavros are buds? Everybody draws them together...I don't understand...Tavros, Gamzee and Equius or Tavros Gamzee and Sollux, it doesn't make any sense to me. What are your thoughts when you get back?

JESSICA

That is to say, right now when you get on

JESSICA

This is cute, and it raises a ship we forgot about, left in the harbor to fend for itself, keeping the pirates from totally disassembling it, only surviving due to it's cannons of canonity. .com/art/Would-It-Be-Easier-P-1-204239534

JESSICA

Like this, what the hell? Where did this even come from? .com/?q=homestuck trolls&order=9&offset=384#/d3a4klc

JESSICA

This is cute .com/?q=homestuck trolls&order=9&offset=456#/d36bewf

try taht again .com/?q=homestuck trolls&order=9&offset=456#/d36bewf

GAH! .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=456#/d36bewf

there

AGAIN! I DON'T GET IT! .com/?q=homestuck trolls&order=9&offset=456#/d3hcrwo

Let's try this again... .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=456#/d3hcrwo

I DON'T GET IT! .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=504#/d3in4u0

JESSICA

see, this is what i imagined when they were off to the side having their moment .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=600#/d3io3h5

JESSICA

minus the dorky smile on Karkat's face, more of an oh-my-god-i-thought-you-were-dead-i-am-so-happy-you're-not-now-we're-going-to-die-together-i-love-you-so-much! Like a look of despair yet joy all at the same time.

maybe burrowing his face into her shoulder to hide the tears that are no doubt welling in his tearducts.

JESSICA

AGAIN WITH THE GAMZEEXTAVROS LOVEYDOVEY! WHY I ASK YOU, WHERE IS THE BASIS FOR THIS SHIP? IT'S LIKE A GHOST SHIP THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST! .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=624#/d3ebvcc

JESSICA

teehee .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=648#/d39auvl

why? why kalyn? please be a beam of sanity in this chaos, please. for my sake. .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=648#/d39wza3

it's even thrown in here...i ...don't know what ...what i'm going to do! .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=672#/d3e5ul6

this one, at least, i get .com/?q=homestuck trolls&order=9&offset=696#/d39l6rx

shit, again =_= .com/?q=homestucktrolls&order=9&offset=696#/d39l6rx

JESSICA

and after all taht i couldn't find it :((((( but at least now we have something to think about. GamzeexTavros. Am I just not seeing it?

KALYN

woah, okay, this is a lot to sift through, so I'll just go chronologically.

okay, indestructible mug, totally canon pairing, cool. very well drawn too

trolls...wow, that powerpuff girls picture...wow...

that grub comic is definitely adorable and emotion-invoking...and we didn't forget about Karkat/Sollux ! I mentioned it multiple times, even in my rant! you just forgot about it. Go look at it again, you fool!

Gamzee/Tavros...honestly, I have no fucking clue. Gamzee shouldn't be in any passionate ships with ANYONE based on what we've seen thus far. Only thing ever mentioned is that he always refers to Karkat as "best friend".

I think people just like how they offset each other? crazy/cool/clown Gamzee and insecure/timid Tavros?

As for the Gamzee/Terezi/Karkat blood picture... I don't feel "this is cute" was an accurate description... I've also never really enjoyed serious blood-porn pictures... No accounting for taste though.

Trolls don't have tear ducts. I'm sure this was mentioned at some point. Or at least someone made some offhand comment about "human tearducts" and how weird humans were...

lol, ghost ship. I like you're ship puns, by the way.

Ha! I like the blind picture of them smelling Karkat. If I were to choose a troll to smell, it would be him. X3

the one after that just looks like Gamzee torturing/scaring Tavros, gearing up to murder him. Which doesn't make much sense, since Vriska got to him first.

KALYN

hmmm...no one should attempt a picture pairing up each of the trolls, since they have four quadrants not just one...it's a lot more complicated than that. Also it seems Gamzee and Tavros were just the only ones left after the rest were paired up... Tavros and Vriska could've been together, but then who would Kanaya be with? seems she can only be with Vriska...The rest mostly make sense thoug

KALYN

you get the Sollux/Gamzee one? then please explain it to me, I have NO idea where that came from. I said before that Sollux doesn't seem to pursue any sort of relationship in the black, much less Gamzee...and Gamzee doesn't seem to pursue any passionate relationships (especially ) with anyone, much less Sollux...so, no, I don't get it.

KALYN

I don't think we just have Gamzee/Tavros to think about. Gamzee/Sollux makes even less sense to me. So, maybe we should try to pick him apart next when we get the chance. Because I just always saw him as THERE, and nothing more...Just a stoner, caught up in his faygo-trips and rambling about clowns and miracles. Who calls Karkat his best friend.

(cue lots of Kalyn spamming the message queue with DA links)

Days later (in copy/paste time)

JESSICA

Ok, first things first, I don't remember ever calling that one with Gamzee, Terezi and Karkat cute, and since there are too many things up there and i'm too lazy to cipher through them, let's just say that if I ever did it was for sarcastic purposes because I do not like that sort of stuff. Now, if it was the creator of the picture who said that, then kindly disregard this message...actually i'm going to look for that comment again, hold up a sec.

JESSICA

Also, i'm very pissed because that medieval picture was the exact picture taht started this whole mess Oh well, now you've seen it

KALYN

lol THAT'S the one you were trying to send me?

JESSICA

yus...I just read the creators description for the Karkat and terezi one, I"m assuming that's what you meant by not understanding it was cute? Cuz I was confused...and that's why I sent it to you

ALSO! The reason why the Sollux hate Gamzee and the Gamzee loves Sollux thing, they had a little chat, I thought, and Sollux really hates him...so yeah, that's why it made sense.

KALYN

oh. I don't remember this chat.

well then

JESSICA

I'm on it, slowly but surely I'll get there.

2 ii know you want to get to 2ollux now, but he ii2 one tough cookiie to crack...2o...how about we 2kiip hiim for now?

KALYN

oh, really?

ummmmmmm

JESSICA

And Aradia was dead most of the time, so we don't really have a good grasp on her...although I wonder what she's going to do now about Equius that she is alive?

KALYN

he just seems more head-centered, and I can totally relate to that at least

you helped me with the other trolls, so maybe I can help figure Sollux out?

yeah, I was definitely not wanting to try to touch on Aradia

she went through too many transformations in physical ..ness and in personality, so

i think I also said a bit earlier that Gamzee would be interesting to analyze, since people keep pairing him with Tavros and others that don't make any sense?

JESSICA

Yeah, it's hard to tell with her right now...what was her lusus? did we ever know?

Anyway! What is your take on Tholluckth?

JESSICA

Gamzee...He I also don't get...I don't understand how being paired with Gamzee would help Tavros...he's a total loose cannon, the only good thing about him is that he's not caught up on blood and being better than everyone...So I don't have a clue.

Have you read today's?

KALYN

yeah except he sort of gets the blood thing after his crazy transformation

no I haven't

I'll go do that

JESSICA

yes, do

KALYN

the nicolas cage face is a nice touch there

lol

JESSICA

Yeah, I know he gets caught up afterwards, and that's after he hits his split personality thing? ThAt WaS aLwAyS hInTeD aT (that was super obnoxious and I don't understand why anyone would want to put up with that )

KALYN

meh, and you've waited till late to talk to me, and I can sense midnight, so I don't know if I'm in any state of awakeness to instigate a full-on character analysis

but if I have anything to contribute, I most certainly will

JESSICA

But she's DEAD! Slick killed her I know I liked her better than you did, but still...it's so sad that was how she went out. Nothing heroic about it...other than she was going to try and take out Slick.

Not Slick, Jack, sorry

KALYN

oh, ok lol

um...actually, Terezi killed her

to prevent her from going to Jack and leading him to the rest of them

JESSICA

Then contribute and I apologize for not getting on earlier, but I was busy with stuff.

KALYN

which could qualify as a just death?

um...am I right though? about the who killed Vriska thing?

acknowledgement of this plot point would be great.

JESSICA

See, I thought it was Slick destroying her clock that ultimately killer her. Unless a just death implies that the one killing her was justified? I don't know...

*killed

JESSICA

Ok, this is really distracting me: .com/watch?v=xGH2TQZ_OAM&feature=autoplay&list=&index=16&playnext=1

(cue abominable video of TVXQ/DBSK singing A Whole New World)

JESSICA

Yeah, Terezi stabbed her, but I didn't think Vriska was down for the count because of that.

KALYN

yes, I believe that's what just death means. it wasn't really her clock, was it? also, for the reason that John never really benefitted anyone by his own death, it wasn't heroic, therefore he did not actually die. Vriska had just killed someone and ALSO was about to tip off the enemy to the hideout and put the rest of the trolls in danger, therefore killing her was a just act.

KALYN

the fuck is that?

do I WANT to watch it?

I REFUSE TO LISTEN TO THIS MONSTROCITY ANY MORE

0:48

^ is when I gave up the effort.

the terrible accents are distracting

bluhhhhh

JESSICA

Lol, yeah, it was really distracting. I guess I could be wrong, but I thought when Slick "desecrated" her clock (.?s=6&p=005760) he forced it to be stuck on the Just side? because it looked like it was going to stop in the middle...so I don't know. Terezi certainly allowed her to truly die, without that wound Vriska never would have, but Slick knocked over the clock and forced the pendulum to be stuck and making it point to the just side. Maybe I'm grasping at straws, but that's what this looks like to me.

KALYN

oh yeah, cuz she said that if she took on Jack, then maybe it would cancel out all the bad things she'd done and it wouldn't be a heroic or just death

JESSICA

I figured that was when you gave up.

KALYN

mystery solved!

I'm going to take a victory pee!

JESSICA

GO PEE! But what was solved again? Was it Slick or Terezi who killed her? I'm assuming you now think it was Slick? And Doc Scratch said he wouldn't not bet on Vriska in beating Jack, so maybe that is why she wouldn't have died? Because she *would* have succeeded, maybe with a little loss of life, but what does the Medium care, and they could have been brought back by Kanaya?

KALYN

he said he wouldn't bet against her, I believe, unless I totally misread it.

which is probably what you meant, actually, so I'll shut up now.

I think it was the combination of Terezi and Slick that killed Vriska. Terezi killed her, and it was Slick's manipulation of the clock that made her stay dead because of the "Just" verdict it took on as a result.

btw, just had a delicious and healthy snack consisting of half a mango and some cottage cheese! :DDD

btw, I'm getting good at eating mangoes without cutting them up (mostly because I'm bad at cutting them up), but if I get a good slice through it, I can tear of the skin and just bite into it like a delicious, soft, sweet, tangy, juicy tropical fruit!

JESSICA

sometimes I wonder if Gamzee was just created for that joke with the insane clown posse...it's the only explanation i can come up with.

KALYN

If I'm ever on Survivor, I hope I get to be at a place with mangoes, cuz I would LIVE on the shit!

hah, maybe

I considered that too, or at least the idea that he was inspired by the video

JESSICA

jealous you have no idea how much i love mangos...actually we probably love them the same amount, except only lizzy and i eat them so mom never thinks to by them

and yeah, that was exactly what i thought with the clock thing, just clarifying we were on the same page.

god, now all i can think of is cottage cheese and mangoes...thanks kalyn D:

KALYN

no problem! you don't even have cottage cheese to curb this sudden hunger?

D:

akslidiffffffffffffffff

is what I would say if I just past out on my keyboard

JESSICA

I'm pretty sure he was inspired by it. I'm reading the first pesterchum EVER on hivebent, and actually, the conversation i was thinking was between Tholluckth and Gamzee is in fact between Karkat and Gamzee, so unless there is another conversation later, I was merely confused.

JESSICA

bwhahahaha, yeah, that is the sound you would make

are you still chronicling this? or does it feel like it would be less important in the future?

JESSICA

no, we don't have cottage cheese because we don't normally eat it, only when i get the craving for it...so no, no cottage cheese and no mangos and I now have a hunger that only those two things can satisfy! Now what are we going to do?

We haven't really touched on the whole sign thing either, I just randomly thought I would look up what the Leo was like (to try and figure out Gamzee) and in the first conversation, Gamzee is basically exuding Leo-ness.

KALYN

I stopped chronicling once I started putting up links to DA fanart. seemed pointless at that point. got all of your links in there though. don't know why.

JESSICA

Ok, screw it, I'm going to figure something out to eat. So i'll be back, I'll probably go to the bathroom to while I'm at it (but you know, separate the two, those two thoughts should not be allowed in the same room together, because then they would make this disgusting love child that is only befitting for horror movies)

KALYN

and wow, oh my god. "passed"*****. idiot.

except Gamzee is definitely a Capricorn.

really? you think food + waste = horror move love child?

I'll have you know, Food + Digestive Tract = Waste

So your analogy is meaningless and your point is moot!

almost put "you're" there, good thing I noticed it

past midnight is not a good time for me to be typing with grammar and stuff!

Just to be clear, I am going to pointlessly list all of the trolls with their respective astrological sign:

KALYN

Karkat=Cancer

Terezi=Libra

Sollux=Gemini

Feferi=Pisces

Eridan=Aquarius

Aradia=Aries

Tavros=Taurus

Equius=Saggitarius

Vriska=Scorpio

Kanaya=Virgo

Nepeta=Leo

Gamzee=Capricorn

There! all from memory!