That first broken link there goes to the story on FF "CONFESSIONS OF A SPIDER BITCH" by BlueMew210210 (which I'm pretty sure can be seen in the conversation below). If you don't want this part of the chat concerning this story up here, BlueMew210210, I can delete it. Please don't be offended by anything said on here :)
Also, during this conversation, I spent much of the time reading another Homestuck fanfiction called "Dormstuck" by bbyah, and I made some references to it. Also, I think it's what made me start thinking about pink lemonade. o.0
We got really off topic in this one, so the other broken links are to Yahoo!answers and an informational site regarding pink lemonade. And, for those who are especially curious, the "first sentence of the first answer" Jess talks about is "Red dye #7. It's the best. Life would not be life without red dye#7. Mmmm-mmmmm lip smackin good !" (at least, I think that's what she was referring to...It was funny to me, so I assumed...)
Oh yeah, and this time I got to be the primary analyzer, because I understand Gamzee and Sollux a little bit more than the previous characters we talked about! Mostly because I spend much of my time with people like those two. Again, opinions/ideas/questions/reviews are all greatly appreciated!
And yes...I realize I just updated 8 chapters of madness in one night. -sigh-
I gvae up on teh bakcspcace fjdk...
KALYN
lol .net/s/7080309/1/CONFESSIONS_OF_A_SPIDER_BITCH I find this hilariously amusing. Not about to read it and listen to the immature rant, but the summary sure is funny to me, considering my own stance on things
JESSICA
yeah, I realize how silly it was of me to think that Gamzee was leo when Nepeta obviously is =_=
And Skye is totally stealing my food D:
The capricorn thing fits Gamzee better than Leo anyway, and the Leo fits Nepeta perfectly, so nm
at least this much of it is perfect "Spirit's attempt to bring about the perfect society, to create heaven on earth"
KALYN
what did that statement entail? or relate to? I'm confused. was that for Gamzee or Nepeta?
JESSICA
who do you think? although i reaize that was a litle confusing since it was immediately prefaced w/ nepeta. it's for gamzee
that story wasn't bad. a nice look into how vriska might think
and i must say i appreciated the title
i'm surprised ther isn't a larger homestuck following on fanfiction
I am saddened by the number of One Piece crossovers compared to all the rest of the INTERNET AND MULTIMEDIA THEY COULD HAVE CHOSEN FROM! Geez, Hanna is Not a Boy's Name fans need to get there stuff together here! I know there is a large community that loves them both! Or at least... I think there is a large-ish community that loves them both...
KALYN
I didn't actually (or even intend to) read the Vriska ff, didn't feel like it. I'm lookin for pairings here!
and I agree. People need to get some creative juices flowing and put their stuff out there
JESSICA
yeah, maybe we should? I really wish they had that nifty drop down list of names
What I like about the Vriska one, is it seems like the creator doesn't like Vriska, but they took a rational approach and gave her a soul rather than completely ripping her apart.
KALYN
yeah that's what I would've done. she had her obvious tantrum rant in the summary though
JESSICA
I wonder if Eridan's insistence that magic isn't real was a ploy to goad Gamzee? because Gamzee said that "learning" steals the magic away from everything. So maybe Eridan's obsession with science is his attempt at making Gamzee hating him, but Gamzee never hated anyone.
KALYN
hm, did Eridan ever try to bait Gamzee or something?
JESSICA
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, she comes across as hating Vriska (so far as the summary goes) and the worst she did to her was make her angsty, but that's not even all that terrible, she's 13 years old, she's going to be angsty. So, I think BlueMew210210 didn't do a half bad job.
JESSICA
Not that I saw specifically, but he's so desperate, would it surprise you?
JESSICA
IT'S CARBONATION YOU IGNORANT DOUCHE.
CG: TRY GETTING SCHOOLFED SOME TIME INSTEAD OF SLURPING DOWN THAT WEIRD SWILL ALL DAY AND FONDLING YOUR STUPID HORNS.
TC: No No BrO, i DoN't WaNnA kNoW, dOn'T eVeN tElL mE.
TC: kNoWiNg ShIt JuSt StEaLs Up AlL tHe FuCkIn MaGiC fRoM mY mIrAcLeS lIkE a MoThErFuCkIn ThIeF.
TC: AnD tHaT aIn'T cOoL.
JESSICA
and what is the aim of science? KNOWING STUFF! (:D (that's an eyebrow)
KALYN
Yes, I got what you were driving at, ha...I was just wondering if Eridan and Gamzee ever really interacted much...but yeah
yeah, no, yeah, I got that, yeah
JESSICA
Well, he did interact with everybody, invited them into his pile of horns, you know. There was nothing obious, but I wonder if Eridan *was* trying to start something up. Wasn't he vocal about how stupid he thought gamzee's horn pile was? Although, admittedly, I think almost all of the guys hated Gamzee. Except Tavros, I don't think he can really hate anyone, because the only person who *deserved* his wrath was Vriska, and we both know how that turned out. So maybe that's why people paired them, because Tavros didn't overtly hate Gamzee and they love Gamzee and want to put him together with somebody? I'm trying to come up with a logical solution here ):O (eyebrow again)
KALYN
I think it is just people making stupid connections like that, as if every single troll needs to be paired with someone, and this is just how it works out once you get all the canon/more probable ones out of the way. you get crack pairings like Tavros/Gamzee
JESSICA
yeah so, back to the matter at hand. are there any of the trolls we haven't really discussed that *you* get?
KALYN
um I could probably pick apart Sollux or Gamzee all right
if there's anything in particular about them you want to hear me analyze
I'm going between this and fanfiction, so I probably won't be able to come up with something on my own
JESSICA
Do it up! Because I have a little trouble picking them apart... Sollux I would have a little less trouble with if there was more to go off of, but like you said, he mostly just seemed *there*
KALYN
Actually I said Gamzee mostly just seemed "there", like in terms of the romances and such
But um...hmm...
JESSICA
See, I don't even know where to start, I sort of understand Gamzee's obsession with clowns a little bit more now, because of the whole capricorn thing, but still...
KALYN
clowns/capricorn?
JESSICA
Oh, really? I thought you were talking about Sollux, that was sort of how he appeared to me (not in relationships since he had Aradia, Feferi and Karkat) but his hacking skillz seem more plot based than anything, because they needed some sort of explanation for it outside of what happened to the human kids, since trolls don't really have the same social structure...i don't know, what's your take on either of them.
KALYN
Gamzee's just a stoner, there's not much more to it. I've known plenty to be able to crack him. He wants to believe in something mystical, like following the sort of mindset of the LSD and acid pioneers of the late 60s/early 70s, reach a higher state of mind or something. But he has the highest bloodlevel class thing and you would think it wouldn't affect him at all since he never really knew or cared what that meant, he just wanted to go on believing in his clown religion and drinking his energy drinks and failing at unicycles.
KALYN
But then, when Dave sent him that video, he found his message, the calling he was meant to follow all along, and it somehow mixed in with his highbloodedness, and he got the destiny complex, and started going apeshit and killing everybody. This could be for any number of reasons, anywhere from it was just a random stoner thing and he's random and he just needed a cause or something to him possibly having a crazy alter ego/psychopathic murderous tendencies lying dormant within him waiting to be awoken.
KALYN
I think that may reveal itself later, if we get some more insight on him. Right now it's just chalked up to "he went crazy." Which could be totally true, but I feel like he could revert back to his former self, maybe with the help of some slime pies and faygo, just to calm him down a bit. But if not, then yeah, he's totally crazy.
JESSICA
Ok, see that was basically what i figured, but i thought (hoped?) there was something more to him. so you think the reason he went batshit crazy was because he lost all hope? Because ICP is exactly what he was dreaming of and hoping for, and he always wanted to keep hoping and believing something was going to happen, and then it did...so now he has nothing to look forward to, nothing to believe in. The whole basis of his religion is believing in something that does not exist yet.
KALYN
Maybe there was more to that religion he was following than we saw too
and no.
JESSICA
yeah, i said that before the two preceeding things from you.
from my perspective, i see that you don't think that.
KALYN
I think he went crazy because he finally found his cause. He believes it's his destiny to um...kill everyone, I guess. Again, something with the religion. Maybe it's more of a Genesis thing, like he's an angel and he's spreading the word by spreading murder to bring in whatever pivotal events this religion of his holds.
JESSICA
Hmm, the only problem i see with your theory is he thought that video was blasphemy, so I don't know...
KALYN
oh, yeah, that's right. which confuses me, since it fit pretty well with his philosophy. motherfuckin miracles everywhere clownpaintface
JESSICA
I guess the major part is we don't know much of his religion. If we knew more it would be easier to understand.
KALYN
right.
and this is nice, since we don't have to analyze any nonexistant romances with him! :DD
aside from him thinking of Karkat as his best friend, which was clearly one-sided.
JESSICA
and when it first showed Gamzee and it talked about his religion, it showed those two, so theoretically they fall in perfectly with his religion. they are "mystic messiahs" from a planet that does not yet exist (which was true before they finished Hivebent) and they go on and on about miracles. Maybe it was Dave making fun of his religion that he thought was blasphemy?
KALYN
oh, maybe, he could've totally realized it was ironic, and then was spurned to start showin everyone that his religion was straight up real and prove it by backing it up with murder.
JESSICA
Most of his relationships would be one-sided, I think, since he would "love" them and they would hate him. He makes me think of that Peter(?) guy from Humon's Niels story.
KALYN
That makes perfect sense!
oh, totally
JESSICA
maybe...it still doesn't make total sense to me, but that is certainly a possibility.
(the understanding Dave's irony thing)
KALYN
I dunno how much more I got on Gamzee. It's deciding whether he saw the irony or was enraged by the ... being totally the same thing as his religion, which we know little about other than clowns and miracles...deciding whether he's a psychopath or not (or if he has split personality disorder or something) or just a stoner or something...there's still factors here and we have no real way of knowing the truth of them
JESSICA
the difference between THE CAPS AND LOWER CASE seems to imply TWO PEOPLE because they are different ENOUGH FROM EACH OTHER.
Or at least that's how it came off to me.
JESSICA
I wonder if AH's next story will be Hivebent?
KALYN
like you mean another arc or somthinggarcant' type
I will stop using th ebackspace now because of laziness
fearit
yes, I believe Gamze has split personality disorder for sure
I am sure of it.
JESSICA
k, and i totally understand the distaste for the backspace button, sometimes i don't use it, only then it is atrocious, trust me
So now that Gamzee is basically totally out of the way, what do you think of Sollux? He's sort of an enigma for me. I get his whole 2 thing, but other than that he's a little confuzzling, yanno?
KALYN
he just doesn't like to get caught up in the drama. it's why he avoids Eridan usually and why he didn't want anything to do with pestering the humans
notice there wasn't any weird drama between him and Aradia
JESSICA
yeah, that was pretty obvious…brain juices are failing me today i guess….
KALYN
I mean, the most dramatic thing he had to put up with (besides those duels and Feferi dying) was all the voices in his head, which went away after he lost his sight (and teeth)
so he was in a relatively good mood after that defeat, despite the death of his girlfriend
JESSICA
yeah, he was, which, here's the thing with him losing the voices. Why was that? Was it because he lost his sight, or was it because there were no more iminent deaths? Because after that the only one who dies was Aradia, and she wasn't even going to be permenantly dead before the whole thing with Slick messing with Doc Scratch's clocks.
JESSICA
I remember there was something about him being prophetic and losing him eyesight, so i don't remember if he would be prophetic due to the blindness or if he would lose any prophetic abilities along with his sight.
KALYN
yeah, it was the imminent death thing
dude...
O.O
...
...what makes pink lemondade...
...pink?
JESSICA
9.9 food coloring, duh. Special...um...special combinations...to counteract the...yellowness ...yeah, good question...
KALYN
you shuould google it because i am to lazy tof rthe googling
JESSICA
lol, i can tell
JESSICA
.com/question/index?qid=1006050811622 I rather enjoy the first sentence of the first answer
KALYN
After a few minutes of struggling to get the key in the fucking slot get in there YOU FUCKING METAL ASSHOLE GET IN YOUR HOME- the door opened
I rather enjoy this random sentencea nd YOUR FACE
JESSICA
Pink lemonade was a drink used for centuries by Native Americans and enjoyed by European colonists during colonial times. It was originally made from crushed red sumac berries,[1] especially those of the species Rhus typhina, and sweetened with maple sugar, but the ingredients were commercially replaced with cheaper ingredients during the 19th century until the sumac industry no longer existed. Now it is simply lemonade that has been colored with pink food coloring and is sometimes made sweeter. Sometimes artificial flavors and colors are used. Natural sources of the pink color, which may also affect taste, include grenadine,[2] cherry juice, red grapefruit juice, grape juice, cranberry juice, strawberry juice, pomegranate juice or other juices. It is a common misconception that the juice from the pink-fleshed Eureka lemon is used to make pink lemonade; although often planted in yards as an ornamental, the juice is clear and typically too sour to drink
JESSICA
actually, i totally forgot about these: .com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%.%2F2011%2F04%%3Fw%3D580%26h%3D817&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%.com%2F2011%2F01%2F13%2Fgorgeous-heirloom-lemons%2F&usg=_EOMHudz7j6UCHy3msTl58ktgJyc%3D&h=817&w=580&sz=79&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=X3G84bHus5rg5M%3A&tbnh=171&tbnw=142&ei=aQf7Ta65N8v1gAen2pTeCw&prev=%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dpink%2Beureka%2Blemons%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1579%26bih%3D661%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=143&vpy=283&dur=167&hovh=267&hovw=189&tx=121&ty=180&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t%3A429%2Cr%3A14%2Cs%3A0&biw=1579&bih=661
(redirect link to info about pink lemons)
KALYN
red dye #7!
JESSICA
actually, we could probably make some traditional pink lemonade there are red sumac bushes at the Ashland Safari park (you don't want to try different colored sumac, some of it is poisonous, but i know the red is definitely safe) and then we add it too lemonade
KALYN
is that closeby?
did you like that sentence with the key? I liked that sentence with the key. I liked that sentence with the key hard.
JESSICA
Yeah, just around the corner from Mahoney and Around the Bend, not far at all. Sumac is supposed to make great tea too.
KALYN
nom
JESSICA
What? what comment with the key?
KALYN
lol you obliterated it with all of your research
nice job
it is currenlty sandwiched between two useless pink lemonade paragraphs lolouhlsxhahaneyeha
that's how i laugh now
JESSICA
In North America, the Smooth Sumac (R. glabra) and the Staghorn Sumac (R. typhina) are sometimes used to make a beverage termed "sumac-ade," "Indian lemonade" or "rhus juice". This drink is made by soaking the drupes in cool water, rubbing them to extract the essence, straining the liquid through a cotton cloth and sweetening it.
KALYN
you know, i really don't fucking care that much, really
i just wondered if you used pink lemons or food coloring if the stuff actually existed before red dye #7
and carmine
just a passing fancy, but if you wanna make the tea and lemonade, sure, we can make the tea and lemonade
JESSICA
where did that even come from? Was that in a fanfic? Or were you doing something with a key in a totally inefficient act of multitasking...carrying around a laptop and unlocking doors. Kalyn, I think you may need some sleep if that is how you are spending your time.
KALYN
just stop researching it
KALYN
lol its from a fanfic I just liked the sentence
its totally something i would say though if I was in the aforementioned scenario
JESSICA
yay! i guess, you're indifference is slightly irritating you brought it up silly
KALYN
ha! no backspace on that laster sentence! and I even said aforementioned!
lol laster
JESSICA
good for you and I could definitely see you saying that, which is why i said the upper statement...that sentence sucked...but we'll ignore it...by bringing it up. Now we're ignoring it *IGNORED!*
KALYN
well you were spammin g me weith the research of a thousand souls of pink lemondae and stuff and there were paragrahps about how the native americans used to drink berries and then it wasn't even about the pink lemons eanymore
JESSICA
pink lemons were never used for it, their color isn't strong enough for that. I WAS EDUCATING YOU! YOU WOULD JUST RATHER BE IGNORANT AND BEHOLD THE MOTHERFUCKIN' MIRACLE OF IT ALL!
KALYN
yeah, and the juice of the pink lemons is too souer, fuck that's so horrible, sour lol
to drink I did learn something
I absorbed it, I promise. the little glimpses of imformation I accidentlaly set my eye upon, I absorbed.
JESSICA
lmao, k
KALYN
I clicked on all the links you put up here and read the paragrapsh despite my indiference, but i didn't not read them. I didn't just ignore them because you are my friend and you were reasearcheing for me because I asked you a question. and then afterward you were just researching for you because suddenly it was intersting. for you.
JESSICA
XP
We are getting really off topic here
KALYN
oh. yeah. I forgot we had one.
I feel like my typos and ignorance of the backspace button are like the text equivalence of slurring speech, wich I proably would be right now if I was talking out loud. or if talking didn't keep me alert all the time. cuz then I wouldn't be slurring anymore. so fuck, nevermind.
what were we talking about before?
JESSICA
lol, yeah, we have probably about two hundred replies on one topic
KALYN
lol. another fun sentence:
I just want to sleep. Why won't people just die so I can sleep?
this is a funny ff
JESSICA
? Which people?
KALYN
hm? all of them, I guess. mostly Karkat and Sollux and Gamzee and um...idk, I 'm not all that far I guess. It's college or something.
I think the main pairng though is KK/Sollux
oh, wait that's not what you asked.
you meant "people"
then its just
peaople in general who are annoying and stuff
oh I wasn't talking about you or anything, that senstenst is straight of out the fanfiction that the sentence with the key came from. they're like brother sentences, they spawned from the same fanfiction.
JESSICA
? Are they all supposed to die or something?
What sort of pairing do they have?
I just thought of something. Kar and Sollux are best buds, and Kar is concerned what Sollux thinks about him (as showcased in his conversations with him and asking him if all of the really mean things he said made Sollux hate him) maybe that's why Dave is concerned about what John thinks about him. That makes a little more sense than a homoerotic desire to impress John.
JESSICA
He's not so sure of himself, and John thinks he is totally sure of himself, so that confidence makes him confident? Because John doesn't understand his irony, while Rose and Jade do.
lol, i didn't honestly think you were trying to say you wanted me to die so you could go to sleep, that would be totally unnecessary, you could just say "Good night!" and I would be like "Good night sleepy head. Get your type-slurring self to sleep" and then you would leave civilly and I would continue reading Homestuck and everything would be civil and everyone would be happy without any bloodshed
KALYN
yeah I kinda always knew Dave wasn't a homo. Because John isn't a homo. and they both made fun of Karkat's homo adveances of ahtered...hatred. there. no they're not all supposed to die, it was a joke, the pairing so far is roomates...um, I guess I understand that confidence statement.
KALYN
I totally answered those out of order, ha
phail
JESSICA
lol, just because John isn't a homo doesn't mean Dave isn't either, it could be an unrequited...which i don't really want to think about anymore, because unrequited love is too sad
feh, answer them in whatever order you like.
KALYN
did you like the picture I spammed you with a long time ago with Dave/Dave because I had mentioned it before? lolol
Did you even click on all of those?
I clicked no all of yours!
on*
haha, different meaning
JESSICA
yes, i did, i thought the scenario with Davesprite and the egg was hilarious and sad. I really love how he adopted Casey in the end.
of course i did, i just didn't reply to them individually like you did. I had actually seen a number of them before anyway.
KALYN
figures
you didn't text me just now or anything did you? the phone went off and it's across the room and I don't feel like getting up to get it
but why would you when I'm right here? heh
(I get a second text message, then get up to retrieve the phone)
JESSICA
yeah, that definitely wasn't me.
KALYN
ohmygodyoufuckingwould
JESSICA
i think i'm going to read for bit now and then go to sleep, so i shall bid you adieu (or i won't go to sleep, we'll see) so good night
KALYN
how did I know that one would be you?
fine nite
JESSICA
lolollololollo, because you were begging me to XD good night