Okay, breaking it up into smaller pieces. I'm pretty sure every link here is preceded by mspaintadventures(dot)com, so if you really wanna get some context, just do that. *sigh*...I ask a lot of questions. Ummm...pretty much the usual, we're talking about homestuck, and I pretty much have commentary as I'm going through it for the second time. I'm a dumbass, as always.
KALYN
You know, the second time around, I find myself supporting the canon more. I kind of maybe might like Karkat/Terezi. A little. Maybe. More than before.
KALYN
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THIS IS THE BEST FOREVER
KALYN
I spy a red rocket unicycle. Gamzee's no doubt. Add that one to the list.
Remember all the galaxies in Sollux's glasses? They show the alternate universes of the SBURB and SGRUB sessions.
Don't know why. But there you go.
So how did Vriska get her arm and eye(s) back? Was it when she ascended to God Tier, would that have healed her?
KALYN
.com/?s=6&p=004538
What's going on with Jade in that cloud? I can't really tell.
KALYN
.com/?s=6&p=004550
And according to this one, Rose's house is gonna blow up?
KALYN
There's another cloud with Dave looking up at a gate. And an enemy.
Now I'm just counting clouds, lol
KALYN
Hm. Since Jack has red blood, and WV is kind of soaking in blood that is bright red and light blue, the conclusion I have come to is that the blood of the white carapaces is blue. Which means that, by troll standards, the black carapaces are lower than the white. Is this like...some sort of strange commentary on racism or "bluebloods" in hierarchy? Bleh.
Unless all that blue is just water. Which is very likely.
KALYN
"TT: That's thoughtful of you.
TT: To strive to pacify me as I scuffle down this black corridor.
GA: Wait
GA: Is That What Im Doing
TT: Is it?
GA: On Second Thought
GA: Thats Not What I Want To Do
...
KALYN
GA: But Id Rather Not Get Stuck In That Kind Of Pattern Again
GA: So If You Want To Wreck Turtle Villages And Tear Your Planet Apart On The Counsel Of Dark Gods
GA: Fine With Me I Guess
TT: What do you mean, "again?" "
Darling Kanaya.
KALYN
She doesn't want to just get stuck pacifying. She wants herself some redrom! XD
And she deserves it.
KALYN
Terezi is clearly annoyed with Karkat.
KALYN
"TG: dont matter what i do im not gonna outpace egbert
GC: DONT S4Y TH4T! YOUV3 GOT TO B3L13V3 1N YOURS3LF D4V3
TG: hey its not like the futures a mystery or anything weve both seen it
...
GC: Y34H OK, JOHN M4Y S3RV3 YOU YOUR OWN BULG3 ON 4 S1LV3R TURN T4BL3 PR3 SCR4TCH
GC: BUT WH4T 4BOUT 4FT3R TH4T?"
Trying to pinpoint any emotional undertones in this conversation... Jealousy? Admiration? Bitterness? What is it that John does that is so great that Dave just can't compare? Perhaps God Tier and all that, but to get there John just dies on a bed! He doesn't even know he's about to die! Dave has faced his own death many times! And he doesn't want to die on that bed, but when he approaches it, he knows that's what he would have to face! Or rather, he would have to be the one to kill an alternate version of himself, which would make that alternate version reach God Tier and not him, so there could be many reasons there, but still. I'm rambling. What's my point again?
JESSICA
John didn't overthink everything, he just went ahead and did it! That is something Dave can never do. My assumption would be jealousy and bitterness, but it also could be admiration. Dave does love John (it can be either as brothers or something more), so it could be admiration as well. I think most people forget these kids are only 13, and that's a lot to put 13 year old through.
JESSICA
John got himself killed, sure, like a total idiot, sure! John is just a good-natured, sweet kid, a little derpy sometimes, but he can get stuff done. He's like the hero in a video game-I'm trying to think of a good analogy for this. John would be like Sora-idealistic, unerring from his path, doesn't overthink things, and is an all around good guy. Dave though...I don't know who Dave would be exactly. He's not bad, but he is from Derse, the dark moon, so he would be like Riku, but he's not swayed by the darkside. He always has his friends on his side, rather than them being enemies. So Dave might be a little jealous of John, but he will always be his best friend.
JESSICA
I never even thought of those bloody clouds! Well, maybe I did, but I disregarded them afterwards! I have no idea what Jade is doing. Lying down? Falling into water? I don't know. She was her computer out though.
JESSICA
Also: Tehehehe, Vriska got the tar beat out of her by Aradia :D
Tavros is so confused, he is always confused, poor guy Can I hug him? Vriska did take him under her wing again, but the silly boy should have been suspicious of something. Sigh, poor Tavros
JESSICA
You all ready know my opinions on canon relationships. *shrug* it was not that much of an issue for me. And if it was canon once, it will forever be canon in my mind! Heh. What else did you mention? There was a lot. I won't talk about the rockets too much. They're pretty much self explanatory *shrug*
Oh, yeah. Vriska's arm and eye. She got those back before god tier, didn't she? Or was it that she wasn't always in god tier? I don't know.
JESSICA
I don't quite know what to make of your Snowman theory. Where did you get that reference from? I vaguely remember it, but if you could get the original source, that would be greatly appreciated.
KALYN
John is affiliated to wind and therefore spades/sword. Young John wears a spade shirt.
Rose is affiliated to water and therefore hearts/cup. Maplehoof has (what can only be described ) as a heart "cutesy mark"
Dave is affiliated to fire and therefore clubs/wand.
Jade is affiliated to earth and therefore diamonds/coin. Jade's SKAIANET shirt has a logo in the shape of a diamond.
This is what MSPAWiki had to say on the subject of suits. However, this is wrong. Unreliable is MSPAWiki! I don't think AH had Tarot decks in mind when he was making this, but I have some solid proof that Dave is hearts. Maplehoof has nothing to do with it (unless you see it more as babyDave flew in on Maplehoof).
KALYN
.com/?s=6&p=004665
TADA! Dave has a heart bib.
KALYN
Oh. Apparently that bib is made out of Maplehoof.
KALYN
.com/?s=6&p=004668
Here it's a heart shirt, just like that picture of John.
KALYN
Apparently Sollux wanted to name Dave Insufferable Prick when he was younger. It wouldn't let him, because Dave wasn't thirteen yet, but it's weird because Sollux didn't want to troll the kids at all. So.
JESSICA
May I say "I told you so"? I knew Dave was connected to the hearts the entire time!
And just... Bro, why would you make a bib out of Maplehoof?
I would think MSPAWiki should have been thrown off when John was paired with the sword. What does he have to do with swords? I dunno.
That is an interesting point you bring up about Sollux and Dave. Why does Sollux feel compelled to troll Dave? Or did he just decide he would try and chose Dave randomly? (I don't particularly believe this theory myself, but DEVIL'S ADVOCATE! ^w^ )
JESSICA
(kekekekekekekekekekekeh browse(dot)deviantart(dot)com/?q=squiddles&order=9&offset=48#/d2ywuv3 )
KALYN
Lol that song's hilarious. All of the Squiddles songs are.
JESSICA
It's my favorite album ^^ next to probably The Wanderers
KALYN
"CG: SO DAVE, TRY TO KEEP ALL THOSE SICK FIRES CHECKED AND THOSE STOIC LIPS PURSED FOR A GOD DAMNED SECOND"
Karkat talking about Dave's lips is just all kinds of strange.
KALYN
"CG: I SEE NOTHING BUT A COWARD BEHIND DARK EYEWEAR CLEARLY DESIGNED FOR WOMEN AND A PAIR OF IMPUDENT LIPS PURSED SO TIGHT IT'LL SOUND LIKE AIR SQUEALING OUT OF A BALLOON WHEN I PUNCH YOU IN THE GUT.
CTG: oh god stop talking about my lips thats the second time "
See.
KALYN
By the way, that conversation is like my absolute favorite in the entire comic/story/game...thing.
Oh god I totally forgot that Eridan was desperate enough to hit on Rose at some point!
And then she blew up his computer. Hahahahaha
So Aradia just called the Green Sun "the source of the first guardians". No, wait it was "the s0urce 0f the first" you get it.
KALYN
AA: maybe if i behave in a manner s0 rand0m
AA: parad0x space w0nt kn0w h0w t0 handle it!
AA: blah BL00P blee BLUH!#$%^&*()_+
AA: didnt see that 0ne c0ming did y0u pspace? + ?*rand(413^612)
Man, wouldn't it just suck for Aradia if her randomness turned out to be some important code? Don't think I didn't notice those numbers there!
KALYN
So THAT'S why Aradia exploded!
Remember when I said Terezi ships Dave/himself because of that comic she made with him and Davesprite? Yeah, just realized the name of that comic is "D4V3XD4V3". So ha. Totally shipped. It's practically canon now!
I probably already knew this subconsciously, but it has just entered my conscious thought that the kids type in their eye colors. Duh.
KALYN
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HOW COULD I FORGET SOMETHING THIS COMPLETELY BADASS.
KALYN
Hm. Y'know that big record in LoHaC? There was a sword in it, I think it was supposed to be used to make the Scratch. Jack (pre-Bec) found it and took out the sword. There's a small scratch in one side of the record, but it didn't even reach the middle yet. Seems kind of...sabotagey.
KALYN
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This makes a lot more sense, knowing that Prospit has been destroyed and Jade's dream self is dead, and the dream bubbles weren't created until a bit later, but they were in the outer rings because that's where the dreamers and dead end up now. And Dave could see it obviously, because he was asleep at the time and Derse hasn't been destroyed yet. And also it's by the outer rings. Rambling, rambling.
...
Why is Feferi there?
JESSICA
I'm pretty sure Bec and Doc Scratch get their power from the Green Sun, so I'm also pretty sure that is where the Guardians get their powers in general. Of course, this assumption could be based off misread information.
That scratch in the record on LoHaC wasn't caused by Bro, was it? At one point when he's fighting Jack he stabs down and his sword gets caught in the record. Although from the sounds of it, what you are talking happened before then. I could be wrong.
And, um... That Jade thing was very... crazy to say the least. I have no idea why Fef is there, other than her lusus was Oglogoth (or whatever) and he(she?) was one of the elder god things from the out rim. And let's be honest, she looked pretty creepy. What a wonderful first glimpse of the trolls for Jade! Also, I read Jade and Fef's conversation directly post that epileptic's nightmare of a video. I noticed that Jade made the same promise Karkat did: Never to sleep again. How similar are they, really? Sans Karkat's constant raging.
JESSICA
What was with that conversation between Kar and Dave? Was Kar just trying to troll? Was that it? Because, you're right, he seemed pretty obsessed with his lips...
JESSICA
(I was just thinking Jade's expression is priceless .com/?s=6&p=004751
Also, when Karkat is talking to her "CG: LET'S CATCH UP. HOW IS EVERYTHING? HOW WAS YOUR DEATHNAP? I CAN ONLY HOPE IT WAS AS REFRESHING AS MINE.
CG: WHAT'S THAT? HOW AM I? I'M GREAT, FEEL LIKE A MILLION BOONBANKS EVER SINCE MY LITTLE POWER SNOOZE." That to be exact, makes me think Karkat is lying on his stomach with his chin resting on his palms and his feet kicked up in the air. Don't know why. Although, I gotta say, the conversation directly following that is probably one of my favorites)
JESSICA
(kekekekeke CG: I DON'T PLAY PRANKS, THAT'S JUVENILE NONSENSE.)
KALYN
That conversation with Karkat and Dave also involved John, when Karkat was telling them both to stop talking to Vriska and Terezi.
…
JESSICA
So, anyway, back to what this monstrosity of a message is about, James and I were having a debate
KALYN
I need you to click that paintbrush real quick.
JESSICA
paintbrush?
KALYN
On my profile.
JESSICA
ok
KALYN
You. Rock.
Now, about your debate.
JESSICA
Ok, well, basically we were talking about Eridan, and how he's dead
But I said he still has plenty of growing up to do
and James said there is no chance now
but i said there were always the bubbles
now i pose this question to you
Who would go back to see Eridan?
KALYN
Wait, so the question isn't if he has a chance of growing up, but if anyone actually wants to see him in the Dream Bubbles?
JESSICA
yes
KALYN
Believe it or not, plenty of the trolls would. Feferi for sure. Gamzee might (he and Eridan have had at least one friendly conversation). Karkat might, just because he can't help feeling for people, and he and Eridan used to gossip a lot about romance and stuff.
JESSICA
Thank you!
KALYN
Aradia (god-tier, the one that's already all over the bubbles) might just talk to him a bit.
Any of the other dead trolls and kids who are in the bubbles might talk to him.
JESSICA
I told James that at the very least Feferi and Karkat would, but James said "Why would Feferi talk to her killer?"
KALYN
Because he wasn't just her killer. He was her moirail. She stopped trying to be his moirail because she assumed that once they had begun playing the game, she wouldn't need to look after him anymore. Turns out she was wrong about that. But she still cared about him.
JESSICA
yeah, that's what i thought
Also, are Rose's eyes really purple? You mentioned before that the humans typed in the same color as their eyes.
KALYN
Yep. They were purple in one of the more recent updates. I think she was talking to Eridan, actually. Maybe. He had assumed she was royalty because of the color she typed in, but it wasn't her blood color so he was confused.
JESSICA
Right, I forgot about that
KALYN
But I realized it when Dave was talking to Terezi about how red is his blood color. But she asked him why he wore his shades to cover up the color of his eyes like Karkat covered up his blood color.
JESSICA
I need to reread this too x.x
KALYN
Then I made the connection between blood/eye color.
JESSICA
I guess that makes sense
So, I find "The Squiddles the Movie Trailer- The Day the Unicorns Couldn't Play" incredibly creepy.
KALYN
I quite like it.
"But...w-where are the unicorns today, Mommy? Where are the unicorns?"
JESSICA
It's still creepy. "where are the unicorns... Mommy?"
the mom disappeared!
KALYN
Um...I think it's still just talking to Mommy.
JESSICA
Rpers = Rapers? (my initial reaction to seeing that) (I know what it actuallly is)
I'm trying to figure out a way to get the Adorabloodthirsty shirts actually done
would you two want a Team Adorabloodthirsty Shirt and a Team Blue shirt?
3+ t-shirts ordered we(or me, i guess) get 5% off. So if we each get 2, it won't be too bad. Sadly the next increment is 10 with 10% off, but I don't plan on buying 10 shirts
Unless I were to sell them, but I don't plan on doing that
actually, never mind for now
i'll ask around and see where the clubs all got their t-shirts done
Anyway, I might have to call these stores anyway. We'll see. Hopefully I can get these done for Christmas, and if not, uh, BIRTHDAY PRESENTS!
KALYN
I would LOVE to have both Team Blue and Team Adorabloodthirsty! Because I love them both! And also, Sollux is on the blue team, and that's my sign. Heh.
JESSICA
Ok Would Morgan like both too?
KALYN
Yes she would XD
JESSICA
I figured
KALYN
"Why would I say no to this?" she said.
JESSICA
hehehehe
JESSICA
If I had to live without you, what kind of life would that be?
hehehe
KALYN
What?
KALYN
Wow. I'm such a dumbass. 45 minutes later, and I now realize what you did there.
JESSICA
hahahaha
KALYN
CCG: I'M MAKING A MENTAL NOTE TO SLAP MYSELF THREE HOURS FROM NOW, FOR BEING ENOUGH OF A SAP TO START DEVELOPING RED FEELINGS FOR A DUMB ANNOYING HUMAN, IF I'M READING BETWEEN THE LINES CORRECTLY.
Oh, Karkat. So what, is it like...Terezi is Kismesis, Jade is potential matesprit or moirail?
JESSICA
Maybe. A common idea though is that Jade, Past Karkat and Future Karkat have the clubs relationship (which I can't remember the name of ). But also, this is past Karkat reading into future Karkat and basically trolling himself. So it could be nothing.
KALYN
Well then Dave comes in and laughs his ass off at Karkat's hypocrisy regarding how he had told John and Dave not to hit on the troll girls.
KALYN
FCG: NOW'S NOT THE TIME TO OPEN YOUR VEINS AND WRITE POEMS ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS
CCG: FUCK YOU, I'M JUST VOICING A HARMLESS OBSERVATION OK
CCG: IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS IF SOME LUNK HEAD IN THE FUTURE GETS CARRIED AWAY WITH WHATEVER LITTLE THOUGHTS I MAY OR MAY NOT NOW BE THINKING
Then after she leaves they say this.
JESSICA
Just that previous exchange?
Or something else?
could you link me to that page please?
I would like to read the entire exchange
KALYN
.com/?s=6&p=004752
JESSICA
thank you
Couldn't the poor girl just leave? Why did she have to be banned?
KALYN
She did leave, lol
JESSICA
I know, but she dragged it out when she didn't have to
KALYN
I guess so, haha
JESSICA
Anyway, I don't know. What you copied and pasted was preceded by this CCG: I THINK
CCG: I WAS PROBABLY WRONG ABOUT JADE
CCG: SHE'S A LITTLE LESS LAME THAN I THOUGHT
FCG: SHHHHSHHSHSHSHSH
FCG: SHE CAN STILL READ THIS YOU STUPID FUCK
KALYN
.com/?s=6&p=004776
This is a pretty awesome exchange, since Jack comes and just tosses that sword to Bro and he catches it and they're all nonchalant about the epic rematch they're about to have.
KALYN
Anyway. You were saying?
JESSICA
lol
let me think x.x
I don't know whether to take Karkat at face value or not
or at least when to take him at face value
because he could be dead serious about "she can still read this you stupid fuck" or he could be being sarcastic
KALYN
Well both past and future Karkat accused to other of having feelings for Jade. And they also both admitted to thinking Jade was pretty cool. And Karkat is rarely sarcastic, and if he is, he's totally extravagant about it.
JESSICA
I think
I think it is late
and I really need to be asleep
That is what I think
So I shall talk to you tomorrow
KALYN
EB: he seems like he was an awesome guy, i would have liked to have the chance to talk to him.
GG: well
GG: maybe you will get that chance john
EB: oh?
GG: yes, as a matter of fact i am sure we will both get that chance!
GG: i once dreamt that we would
They speculate that this'll happen with prototyping, but since it doesn't, I'm pretty sure our theory is dead on.
KALYN
They're talking about Jade's grandpa, by the way
JESSICA
I leave you, and shall read this all tomorrow
KALYN
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