This is sort of a bit of irrelevant mundanity sandwiched between two insightful HS-related conversations. I tried to keep the more irrelevant stuff short. This is everything leading up to...just now.
JESSICA
lol
Hussie has a couple more pages up for today. He says it's in "honor of VT Day" but he hasn't really stopped his break.
what do you think of this? " ,3,3338O" also, hussie seems to be wanting everyone to realize that ~ath=tildeath lol
^not realy spoliers just a couple of notes. Also, those hearts, even though that was what they were intended to be, just look like 3 3 which...i assume you all know, but it sort of adds to how the thing looks? Meh, you'll see it in the update, i don't know why i'm explaining this
JESSICA
Moar spoilers! This has to do with the current reproduction practices! Roxy says "wrigglers" and "the old-fashioned way" this makes me wonder if this is part of the Condesce's influence. Which is also part of what I have been considering. I don't know if i've mentioned this yet, but I think they are all going to ... yeah, i'm thinking about it and throwing holes into my own theory... anyway, this is what i think, which, like i said, is probably full of holes:
JESSICA
fuuuuuuuuuuck, i accidently travelled from this page
ok, let me try and think this through again
(it was really long too )
anyway, Jake's island has al of the lusi on it
and i was thinking that if there is in fact a way on the alpha earth to reproduce the same way the trolls do, then they have a chance to repopulate and there would be lusi there to care for the trolls after they pupate(?)
but! as i was thinking through this, they can't populate earth, because either earth will be completely gone, or they can't reach earth from the void
so then i thought, maybe the lusi will go with jake into the medium? which also brought up another point about how much goes into the medium with the kids after they teleport out of there
is the area as large as the meteor which is about to hit (which would actually make sense) or is it as much as they habitate? I dunno. anyway, John's house (and can we assume Jane's) and only a little bit of the surrounding yard goes with, rose's house seems to maybe have the same area, since the sepulchre is not there, and i don't think the tower is there either
JESSICA
and how much of Dave's apartment building went with, but not a whole lot of the city went either
but now comes the part where i wonder if it has to do with how large the meteor is. wasn't Jade's island going to be hit by the largest meteor? if what i suspect is true about the area the meteor was about to hit leaves too, then the entire island would probably go along with all of the lusi
JESSICA
at which point the trolls could probably populate Jake's new world, and then if they can get either another matriorb or another...matri...something . so they can repopulate and start again
but then, and this is a totally random tangent of where my brain went that may or may not be true (more likely the latter) but i'm just throwing it out there, maybe the world they repopulates becomes either another Alternia or maybe even the beta Alternia (which would make more sense for this to be a crazy theory) and then everything starts all over again?
JESSICA
there's probably stuff that can easily shoot all of this down, but just some errant thoughts that decided to continue into fruition. penny for your thoughts it's really long, i know
anyway, more homestuck today, don't expect too much for the next couple of days though
huh, not as long as i thought...
(my stuff that is)
anyway, spoilers up there, keep that in mind
but not many now that i think about it, it's mostly just my theory... but read the update first regardless, since aspects of it tie into the tangent
MORGAN
holy shit, jessica's writing a novel
with some really interesting thoughts about meteors that i find rather compelling
yeah, i feel like the whole goal of the condesce is to repopulate/recreate a new alternia so that her race may continue to exist.
so perhaps we can speculate-woah! i wonder what they're world would be like!
the one that they win at the end of the game!
i mean, think about this
JESSICA
yeah, i was thinking that too
MORGAN
theoretically, we know how their session is going to go
it's going to be perfect and they'll win at everything and ultimately the game, because that's what happened with the alpha trolls
but, i really don't think hussie can end it that way
JESSICA
why's that? Problem Sleuth ended well
MORGAN
after all, now all sorts of shenanigans are in play to potentially fuck everything up, like the beta kids traveling to the alpha universe
there's just too much up in the air right now for things to end as they "conventionally" would according to the game
JESSICA
but maybe with the beta kids and the trolls going, they will all beat the game together, and beat Bec Noir, isn't that sort of the point? to regroup and beat Bec Noir?
MORGAN
ok, yes, i think they will probably beat bec noir.
bec noir is going to the alpha verse now?
(i kind of forgot about him, for whatever reason)
alright, the way i see it there are a few different ways for this to ultimately end:
JESSICA
haha, well, who knows precisely what he's doing, but didn't one of the trolls want to go after Bec Noir then? but Rose said they should regroup?
MORGAN
First: Bec Noir is basically the wild card, and the beta kids/alpha trolls (possibly with the help of the alpha kids) beat him... but then we have to consider English and what kind of baddy he is.
cause he's definitely worse and more powerful than Noir.
JESSICA
definitely, lol maybe they all work together to beat LE XD
(sooooo cheeeeesy)
MORGAN
Regardless of whether Noir is defeated, (or maybe Noir will join the cheese fest and become good? against the greater evil?), LE needs to be taken down
JESSICA
yup
(maybe PM will convince him to join the good side XD XD XD)
MORGAN
possible
Other possibilities for endings:
they lose, and everybody dies, making the theme of the story chaos. Chaos exists, and there is no good or evel
*evil
I wonder how many times LE has been brought into existence?
is it like... every session not destined to win?
Also: Maybe they all come together to somehow beat the game for good, and finish it completely on such a grand scale, that it shall never terrorize another parallel universe ever again...
except that the game has pretty much come to represent the universe, and is woven into it in such a way that it is impossible for it not to exist.
JESSICA
I like that one... but I think LE has only been created once and he has only existed once
MORGAN
so we are all slaves to the order
hm...
so he is unique to this session?
JESSICA
yup, but i also wonder if they do ultimately fail, but that makes the game cease to exist
pretty sure he is
he was something that was always destined to be
MORGAN
hm... woah, like if a session that is destined to win fails instead, pretty much breaking Doc Scratch's deal and ... what was the other part of that deal?
JESSICA
i dunno, i was thinking more along the lines that the worlds they make become part of the game, so they break the chain of events that way
MORGAN
wait... no, was Scratch involved in the beta kids' game's scratch? he was right? that was his doing, ensuring the success of their alpha verse?
JESSICA
hmmmm
MORGAN
but the worlds that are created with the game always become part of the game
JESSICA
well, John scratched the disc on LoHaC
MORGAN
it's like the game is ... right...
JESSICA
and Doc Scratch fixed the scratched CD that "we" brought in because "we" couldn't see what happened next
and that's what i said, is it not? that they worlds that are created are part of the game, and so long as they continue to play (and try again) the game will continue to exist
MORGAN
it's like the game is like a giant monster feeding on sessions, like the failing sessions are its food. But when the players are about to lose, it offers them a deal that's like... double or nothing almost...
JESSICA
that, of course, is assuming that there is only one game is technically going on at one time
yeah
MORGAN
and of course everyone wants to continue to exist- i dont think that's the case
im pretty sure there are always multiple games going on at a time
parallel universes
JESSICA
true, but it seems like time is insignificant as far as the game is concerned, now that i think about it...
MORGAN
and I think, because of the inconsistencies of time, each session is always happening, has happened already, and will happen later, depending on how you look at it
JESSICA
because the trolls created the beta kids' world, but kanaya had rose's walkthrough while they were playing
MORGAN
right exactly
anyway, i was about to compare the game to a faustic deal
JESSICA
i'm pretty sure i've said something to that effect before, that everything has always been destined to happen
MORGAN
right...
but hang on, Faustic deal
so, think of the game (or Scratch (and his other universal counterparts)) as the devil
JESSICA
which i can't remember if i mentioned up there that i suspect that the alpha kids create the real alternia? i remember that i mentioned Jake's world becoming the new alternia...-yup, game/scratch=devil
MORGAN
in a doomed-to-fail session, the players make the deal in order to continue to exist. Basically the only choice they have really
so (and you've already implied this, i;m just getting it down in one place) what does the game get out of this deal?
if they take the deal, the game gets to continue, with another world to feed on after the next session wins and creates it.
otherwise, if they don't make the deal, both the players and the game cease to exist.
it's either win/win or lose/lose.
JESSICA
they are symbiotes, really
MORGAN
from this we can infer a few things...
if we can assume that not every session takes the deal, then there are multiple game sessions in multiple universes constantly going on
JESSICA
true
MORGAN
but, i think it might be safe to assume that every session proposed this deal takes it. All of them. because the nature of living is to want to keep living, at least in some form. in this case, it doesn't even matter if there are other games happening in parallel universes or not
JESSICA
yeah, life always goes on and it fights for its survival
MORGAN
in relation to this, i have two sort of theories on the relative "shape" if you will of the gameverses...
if its chronological, and one winning session leads to a world which becomes the next session, which then either wins or makes the deal and wins the next time, and so the cycle continues, then the gameverses are basically a straight line (without taking time into effect)
but I think it's probably more confusing than that, because events in sessions caused by sessions before them ultimately effect said sessions that came before... ie: rose's walkthrough used by kanaya
(but we could just look at time as a free agent of sorts)
JESSICA
yeah, i sometimes like to think of time as a "dot" and everything happens at the same time
MORGAN
OR we could look at the 'verses as each a point in a three-dimensional mass of sorts.. or maybe like a molecule-like-shape... with webs interconnecting each of them, or at least some of them
hm...
JESSICA
yeah,
MORGAN
that's a good way to look at it
JESSICA
Yeah
JESSICA
although, i wonder, what do the horrorterrors have to do with all this?
are they the agents that keep the game going?
MORGAN
well, we know time doesn't effect the horrorterrors, yeah?
they are a constant in every session...
JESSICA
yeah, and i almost wonder if it's the same horrorterrors, although that is incredibly debatable, but almost like it's always the same Doc Scratch
MORGAN
which means that theoretically the characters could interact with people from other universes in those dream bubbles…
except with the dream bubble thing, i think there has to be a common memory of some sort to do that...
JESSICA
which they do, do they not? the kids and trolls interact
MORGAN
BUT IT STILL MIGHT BE POSSIBLE!
JESSICA
then they can travel through the void to the other planets
MORGAN
yeah, but i mean from sessions that they've not been involved in
JESSICA
ok, i see
MORGAN
so maybe no other universes truly exist?
unless we can prove it through inter-planet/intra-void travelling?
JESSICA
maybe it's like galaxies in one universe?
MORGAN
ooh, maybe...
JESSICA
you can travel to other galaxies through the "void," or space, and then you come to places that can either be totally different or very simlar
although, what i find interesting are the certain things that ARE a constant, mostly actors and movies
(btw, let Kalyn know i've got the copy and pasting covered, i'll let her edit most of it, but i'll make it look all concise and neat without the crazy spaces)
MORGAN
gonna be rather absent for a bit... video chatting clarissa
JESSICA
but the consistencies point to something more than just different galaxies and more to parallel universes
ok, that's cool
KALYN
REALTITIES LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
^what I got from this update
EMILY
yeah, not reading all that shit
KALYN
Emily Y U Post Sad V-Day Song?
Guys I think Jake is a Page
EMILY
i made a valentines playlist of love songs, sad "i'll never get you back songs" and fuck you songs
and that one has been stuck in my head
I THINK MS WIKI SAID THAT...
KALYN
"TG: bet you would like to get PAGED huh jane
TG: *sweet innuendo"
EMILY
.com/wiki/Jake_English
KALYN
course
EMILY
boo ya
KALYN
Oh Jessica, how I feel about the hearts thing is there's a little Feferi face at the end with that extra 3 (the one without a or ,) 38O
EMILY
i knew that earlier
(my boobs hurt)
KALYN
o...kayyyy...
anyway
KALYN
"TG: mine is so sensitive it has been used to sweep the ocean floor for mythical sea monsters
TG: turns out
TG: all of those monsters are SO gay
TG: truth "
KALYN
What mythical sea monsters?
Could Eridan be gay?
EMILY
cthulu's pretty gay
KALYN
lol truth
EMILY
oh god
the nerds
they say that
they're coming
KALYN
whut
EMILY
*saw
they saw that
they're coming
oh god nerds
please i'm one of you
KALYN
hahahahahahahahaha
KALYN
"TG: and dont underestimate striders wiles
TG: nor jakes...
TG: lets say
TG: open mindedness?
GG: Well,
GG: He does often profess his love for adventure, I suppose.
TG: yuuup... "
KALYN
oh god yes
JESSICA
um, ok, i was just wondering if you had any thoughts on why that was?
the fef face thing
KALYN
why what was? oh
JESSICA
happy accident or "prophetic"?
KALYN
dunno. Condesce is Fef's ancestor, and Roxy shows signs of being influenced by trollian society, most likely because of the Condesce
I don't know if it's very significant
KALYN
How would it be prophetic?
Wouldn't be surprised if Roxy and Fef just know each other, since they both navigate the bubbles pretty well it seems (or someshit)
Or maybe it's a link to horrorterrors, I don't fucking know
I can see them being friends.
JESSICA
i dunno... i just throw stuff out there and see if anyone will think of something to go with it, i like to think of myself as a Plato...
and it worked!
KALYN
yeah I pretty much had nothing to contribute to your crazy conversation
speaking of which...are you still copy/pasting?
JESSICA
no, i haven't been on facebook until just now
i have up until i last spoke though
so you don't have a lot to do
i could...
EMILY
MY TOE HURTS
JESSICA
did you get my email Kalyn?
KALYN
probably, I'm a bit preoccupied catching up on Superstuck though.
V-day shenanigans
JESSICA
oh my gosh, reading it too, have you read "==Catch up with EB (But Not Really)" yet? The ending just made me go WHAT? WHAT? LITERALLY! OUT LOUD!
EMILY
was just dancing sexily to before u go
KALYN
what? I thought I was caught up, but what are you referring to?
Tatters?
JESSICA
Yes! Tatters, what the hell? lmao!
KALYN
hehehehehehe I'm excited for Gamzee/Tailorbird
JESSICA
lol, yeah (should I include Superstuck stuff?)
KALYN
sure, still slightly relevant
I usually include everything until the conversation gets really boring or like...tedious?
If you email it all, I can edit out stuff
I usually do
JESSICA
ok
I was just thinking that I don't appreciate Roxy's plans and by that, I mean I don't like her getting between Dirk and Jake
by the way, my computer seems to edit out the smily faces
KALYN
same here lol
but at the same time, she's just looking out for jane, keeping her informed
she's not really getting between them so much as trying to let Jane know the situation
JESSICA
true, but she's succeeding!
(one irrelevant rant later)
EMILY
wish i had overcome some adversity
KALYN
lawl clueless
JESSICA
although, i will say this, my computer always asks if i want to update anything, but i also never gave it the option to automatically update
KALYN
I think some things just update automatically because they function best that way and not very well without updates. ie, web browsers(?)
JESSICA
Nope
EMILY
YES
KALYN
but for applications and stuff, it always asks nicely
JESSICA
not on my computer
everything asks
EMILY
my phone's a bitch for that
KALYN
and I always answer, "no, I like itunes the way it is. don't fuck around with my music."
JESSICA
i don't mind, it means i'm in control!
lol
KALYN
because I've lost too much before for me to trust it not to fuck with my music.
EMILY
ha
I'M IN CONTROL
KALYN
I've got over 9 hours of kpop on there, not to mention everything else, so it would be nice not to have to replenish all of that.
EMILY
i have...like 3 hrs?
JESSICA
yeah, lol, i reset the date on my computer because i got a virus (and i didn't want to bother with actually sorting it out since it was bad enough)
so if i update itunes with my iPod attached, i lose everything
KALYN
Damn
JESSICA
why don't you make cds?
KALYN
yeah I don't have an ipod, so my computer is the only source of my music
JESSICA
duh, you have...
KALYN
BECAUSE
EMILY
I LIKE CDS
KALYN
HOW WOULD I ORGANIZE IT
I CAN'T FIT EVEN ONE FULL HOUR ON A CD
JESSICA
lol, you would have to make a project of it
yeah, a lot of CDs
EMILY
I LIKE CDS
JESSICA
I suggest by artist
KALYN
HOW WOULD I FUCKING CHOOSE WHAT GETS GROUPED TOGETHER, AND WHAT I'LL WANT TO LISTEN TO IN ONE SITTING
KALYN
SHIT
EMILY
FUCKING DUMB
JESSICA
or by album
KALYN
No, because some artists I only have one song for
I only have a few full albums
EMILY
cello dudes, stay
JESSICA
then you go through and choose your favorite songs
EMILY
i'd be like, FUCK YOU I'M OFF BITCH
KALYN
like...two...and almost a third
JESSICA
and make a special playlist or two
EMILY
i wanna play cello
play ba shit
KALYN
I already have those!
They have people's names on them.
EMILY
I'D JOIN APOCALYPTICA
KALYN
Because those were the mixed CDs I made for everyone
JESSICA
lol, i'm just saying, that way you can easily replenish without re-downloading from the internet
EMILY
but i'm not sweedish
FUCK
or blonde
KALYN
Well actually about that
EMILY
or a guy
JESSICA
about what?
EMILY
oh?
JESSICA
about emily being blonde?
EMILY
HEY
JESSICA
l know that, but it's only a mental thing
EMILY
NATURAL BRUNETTE HERE
KALYN
Since we're in the process of bluetoothing songs to/from Cynthia's and Kelsey's computers so our itunes match (or at least have as much Kpop as we can), then I could potentially replenish in this manner.
JESSICA
*waggles eyebrows mischievously*
EMILY
I'M ALL NATURAL
JESSICA
not anymore
KALYN
Actually, about Emily being a guy.
EMILY
hey
i'm not a guy
JESSICA
Kalyn, that could work (baahahahaha), but only until you leave
KALYN
oh?
yes, the leaving part.
welp.
JESSICA
yup
KALYN
I'll just continue to refuse those updates then, I gues.s.
JESSICA
lol
i suggest reading what they actually do, because there was one just recently about eBooks
totally irrelevant
KALYN
eh.
TL;DR
EMILY
am i a guy?
JESSICA
...
KALYN
also I like itunes the way it is.
JESSICA
is literally one sentence
maybe two
KALYN
whut
oh
JESSICA
at least on my computer it is
KALYN
I still stand by it.
JESSICA
mmmhm
KALYN
There's still the searching for it
and also all those fucks I don't give
JESSICA
no...
EMILY
RECENT CRACKED ARTICLE
JESSICA
haha, that's more like it!
you're in a not very "fuck giving" mood, aren't you kalyn?
seems to be the phrase that pays today
KALYN
any morsel of effort that could be thrown haphazardly into this is a morsel I don't want to haphazardly throw
JESSICA
Hahaha
EMILY
GIVE SOME FUCKS!
KALYN
YEAH BABY
Oh
JESSICA
(I keep getting distracted by my profile pic ...:3)
EMILY
I GIVE ALL THE FUCKS
JESSICA
*:3
KALYN
whore.
EMILY
all the fucks are for you
JESSICA
you are canon
EMILY
my canon lover
KALYN
sexy benches?
JESSICA
in a purely canonical sense
EMILY
yeah
FUCK YEAH
I LOVE CANON
KALYN
I love cannons.
EMILY
;)
JESSICA
you guys should totally have sexy bench sex with each other...on benches
EMILY
shall we give some fucks together?
JESSICA
but Kalyn never gives any fucks
(then we started sending each other pictures of sexy benches.)
JESSICA
are you back with the benches again? is that what all those links are about? can I just go back to tumblr and ignore this?
at least until later
…..
EMILY
HOLY SHIT
shouldn't just be a faygo party
KALYN
yeah, green jello too
EMILY
it should be a general homestuck thing
KALYN
I'll wear my ICP hat and shit
EMILY
having cheetos too
KALYN
betty crocker cakes
EMILY
cause cheetos are boss
KALYN
cheetos?
k
EMILY
cheetos are boss
should i be writing this down for our party?
mind honey?
KALYN
oh yes
mind honey
when the fuck was a chair "the most cosmic thing that had ever been invented" it was never "advanced technology"! you pretentious piece of shit!
EMILY
yes
KALYN
I swear he underestimates the intelligence of not only the viewers and interviewer, but people in the past.
no one's that fucking stupid.
EMILY
ya know, ever since i read dob's article, i really don't like zoey deschanel
fuck
KALYN
haha same
EMILY
i kinda feel bad
EMILY
but also not really
KALYN
eh
look at all the fucks I give
EMILY
you never give fucks
KALYN
nope
I have none to give
EMILY
do you give any fucks about me?
KALYN
I don't know how to adequately answer that
EMILY
NOT THOSE FUCKS
JEEZ KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS
KALYN
uh
see
I still don't know what you mean
EMILY
JIZZ IN MY PANTS
KALYN
oh
EMILY
but yeah
you should answer my question
KALYN
but fuck-giving is still too harsh
EMILY
oh?
KALYN
it doesn't quite match the tender feelings for you I hold so dear
EMILY
yay!
I LOVE GIVING FUCKS
JESSICA
Sorry for neglecting you guys for so long
I was doing stuff for my... music .
KALYN
Suuuuure
JESSICA
*giggles at Gamzee* I'm going to have to take that down, I am far too full of myself now
KALYN
I can tell that's true by your suspicious ellipses and shifty emoticon
JESSICA
hahahahaha
yup
except it totally is
then a little tumblr
and now i'm going to do more music stuffs
and then more tumblr
then sleep
KALYN
k
EMILY
i should sleep more...
…..
KALYN
GD's new snowy concept supports my earlier theory that big bang is wearing oxygen masks because B2ST saved them from the snow.
EMILY
oh?
KALYN
yesh
EMILY
oh…
KALYN
why does it always go like this?
EMILY
to class!
KALYN
K: Statement!
E: Oh?
K: Yes.
E: Oh...
….
MORGAN
you guys, why do you always have ridonk long conversations? I have to do so much scrolling holy shit!
EMILY
that's why i don't read them
JESSICA
well, i guess that would be the perfect time to talk about you ruthlessly under your own nose
MORGAN
Glad this is suddenly recent, just got done copy/pasting shit
with some editing
oh shit I'm Morgan
hang on
EMILY
hahahaha
hey
JESSICA
Lolololol
EMILY
guess what
?
morgan/kalyn
hey
KALYN
Like how it says Morgan's still on
anyway
what
EMILY
android users (me) are more likely to have sex on the first date
;)
KALYN
hm, I heard iPhone users have more sex than android users.
EMILY
WHAAAT?
oh
buuuut
they aren't as likely to have sex on the first date
i am
hey
omaha
lots of board games?
Dumb
JESSICA
see, i think i would rather be the iPhone user than the Androuid user
KALYN
what's with this random list of words?
(yeah the overall thing)
lol overalls
EMILY
i dunno what chu talkin bout
JESSICA
what random words? emily;s little tangent?
KALYN
Yes
…..
JESSICA
!
Homestuck updated, it's only one page, but it's kinda like Roxy's video update, I guess? Well, probably not at all, lol, but it has some interesting things! Along with the nature of their eyes? You'll have to watch it
EMILY
I did it! I found the UNO meme.
JESSICA
oh...
MORGAN
wait... new character? i didn't see any new characters...
i mean, i watched it... but new character?
but yeah, the update was totally fucking legit as shit
JESSICA
really? sort of new, she finally showed her face! as an active character
MORGAN
oh, i see what you mean.
not counting it, cause we all already knew she existed
JESSICA
but she showed her face!
MORGAN
ok but we had seen her before technically
JESSICA
I know, that's why I said "active"
but "NEW ACTIVE CHARACTER NEW ACTIVE CHARACTER "
is hard to type
KALYN
I have only this to say:
DIRK IS A BOSS.
That's really all there is to say on the matter.
KALYN
Also, I realize now why he wants to turn Jake into a killing machine. Because they way Jake is holding up against Brobot, there's no way he can survive the medium all the way through. I think Roxy and Dirk were seriously influenced by the Condesce and trollian cultural things too. Has the Condesce taken the place of the Black Queen?
JESSICA
hmmm, good question!
JESSICA
but with Jake, John wasn't that strong either, and he did fine
i would like to add: *Two pistols and a wink* lololol
EMILY
"the prince is awake, your shit is wrecked"
KALYN
Eh, 'cept they scratched that session, and John kept dying.
The first trolls weren't strong enough to win their session, which is why the second trolls were trained with the influence of Doc Scratch to make them a more ruthless and violence-heavy culture, and they breezed through the game.
JESSICA
Didn't he die once? (aside when he went to godtier)
KALYN
He died a bunch after he reached God Tier, didn't he?
In the battle against Bec Noir with Rose at least, I remember that one
JESSICA
But that was against Bec Noir! lol, i don't know if that counts, anyone would have trouble against him
only Vriska really stood a chance against him, and that was with her chance powers
KALYN
But there's still the comparison between the Beta/Alpha sessions of each race. Beta trolls were friendly and struggled with the game, they scratched, Alpha trolls were vicious and pretty much killing machines, and they breezed right through it until it was fucked up at the end. Beta kids were more like Beta trolls (I guess) but now the Alpha kids are some badass mofos that can cut off the head of a minion after being taken by surprise. Dirk is proof enough that post-scratch kids are way more prepared than pre-scratch kids (and I don't think it has all to do with being three years older). That influence is there, the Condesce and everything, they have a better chance than the other kids ever would of beating the gaem.
fuck. game*
JESSICA
Dirk was always kick ass though
KALYN
True, guardianDirk always pwned the fuck out of everything without even trying.
JESSICA
yeah, and Jade was pretty awesome too, don't forget, with her sharpshooting abilities
KALYN
But I still think Dirk's reasoning for wanting to turn Jake into a killing machine is so that he has a better chance of survival in the game.
JESSICA
oh, sure, no arguments there
I was just saying that he wouldn't have been too terribly off without it
also, the Alpha Trolls took, what, a few weeks to get through, while the beta kids only took a day
although, they didn't complete it, we could argue that
KALYN
Hmmmm how well did he fare against all the Alternian monsters running around his island? Have we seen him pwn anything yet? (Definitely not Brobot, although Dirk made it pretty much unbeatable.)
The Alpha Trolls also had twelve members, and the Beta kids had four, along with the assistance of all the Alpha trolls
JESSICA
nooooo...but he wouldn't face alternian monsters at the beginning...
KALYN
And yes, the kids scratched their session and the trolls finished theirs
at the beginning of the game?
you don't know that
the game hasn't even started yet, and he's facing Alternian monsters!
He's been living with them all his life, how come he's not pwning them all over the fucking place!
JESSICA
i meant the pawns, or whatever they were, the imps
KALYN
I know that, the game starts off with the weakest creatures, but Jake isn't yet in the game. He's had all these massive monsters everywhere to possibly train himself to learn to fight, and so far we haven't seen how good of a fighter he can be yet.
Why do you think those monsters are there?
All that trollian influence.
To train him to be a better fighter before he enters the game, perhaps?
JESSICA
or to train him to be crafty
KALYN
LE or the Condesce would easily have manipulated the world to put those there somehow.
crafty?
JESSICA
yeah, how could he have survived if he was as carefree as Jade?
KALYN
That's kind of my point.
JESSICA
yeah, but he doesn't just have to be strong
KALYN
Jade didn't have that influence from English or anyone, there were no monsters...
I'm not just saying strong!
It also takes craftiness and stealth to be a killing machine!
Endurance too!
And agility.
Just everything!
JESSICA
all he's missing is strength, and that's Strider's goal
KALYN
And those monsters were put there to train him to be a better fighter, a better survivor-in other words, a KILLING MACHINE.
Is that so?
I don't remember about strength, I think it's the whole package.
Just being better in general.
JESSICA
but he doesn't need brobot for anything other than becoming stronger
he has the lusi
he's learned to be stealthy, crafty, etc.
KALYN
The Lusi can help him become stronger, faster, craftier, better all around. So can Brobot. Brobot is trained to fight him though, whereas those monsters aren't.
He has to hunt Brobot first to fight him, doesn't he?
JESSICA
brobot is there to fight him but not kill him
KALYN
Either way.
KALYN
It's all Dirk's way of contributing to this, and we know that Dirk is heavily influenced by the Condesce (just for being awake on Derse, Roxy's shown this influence as well), and Dirk gave Jake Brobot to make him a better fighter. So he could survive the session. Just like the Alpha trolls were made to be better fighters (through Flarp and building houses and shit to get better at the game itself) specifically so they could beat the game.
JESSICA
yeah
KALYN
What I'm saying is basically, how do we know Dirk isn't playing some sort of that role of influence here that goes into the post-scratch world to make all the kids better at the game?
Since he and Roxy are more aware of the proceedings of the game and all that.
JESSICA
hmmm
can't wait until we find out more x.x
KALYN
well I don't mean that he's like on the side of the Condesce or anything and that's why he's going through with this, I just think he's more well-informed that Jane and Jake are.
So he's doing what he can to prepare them for the game.
I don't think any minions are whispering into his ear telling him that it's what he needs to do. He just knows.
JESSICA
Yeah, i guess another way to look at this would be just the fact taht Rose and Dave are dead and Dirk and Roxy know why
Jane doesn't want to believe it because she loves Crocker Corp, or whatever
but do we know how much Jake actually knows?
KALYN
Yes, they just know more than Jane and Jake, who were raised by the big-baddies (or at least have their names) and so were probably sheltered from the more telling information.
No we don't. We know that he's really gullible though.
JESSICA
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