Chapter 81: Coming of Age
I've done some more planning for Even Further Beyond, making it fit with Battle of the Gods and answering the question "But why does this happen anyways?". It is going to be awesome. I'll throw some words at you: Alpha Shenron. Gamma Shenron. Deus Porunga. Have fun Wild Mass Guessing.
Thanks for everybody telling me that "Budokai Tenkaichi" means something like 'strongest fighter under the heavens' or 'world's strongest martial artist tournament'. I got the now-known-to-be-completely-wrong 'sparking meteor' from the fact that I thought that was the Japanese name for the Budokai Tenkaichi series of games. Evidently not?
Super Buu's theme for this story, by the way, is In the Hall of the Mountain King, by Edvard Grieg.
"Let's get down to business." Piccolo faced the three saiyan hybrids, face fixed into his permanent scowl, his furrowed brows slightly curling the ends of the M on his head. "You're hardly warriors. You two..." he glared down at Break and Goten. "...just kids born into power. And even you," he rounded on Gohan, "when was the last time you did any serious training?"
"Don't start this," Gohan grumbled.
"Yeah, how were we supposed to know Buu would come along?" Goten whined.
Piccolo tried to rein in his anger. "Buu is hardly the first being to try something like this! You should always be ready. Now..." he swept his gaze across them. "We have twelve months. I will personally train each one of you, one at a time, for a period of two months. For this first month, and for one month after each of those three periods, I'll train alone. Those not being currently trained by me may do as they wish, but I advise you focus on getting stronger if you want to live through this. For the last part of the year after that, we'll all train together."
"Who said you get to make the rules?!" Break suddenly shouted, wishing she was taller as Piccolo glowered down at her.
"If any of you can take me one-on-one, we'll discuss who's qualified to be in charge. Until then, you will do exactly as I say!" He turned his back, striding out into the empty expanse of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. "See you in a month."
"I thought he was a bad guy," Break said to herself, almost oblivious that the others could hear her. "Why's he on our side?"
"He doesn't want everything destroyed any more than we do," Gohan explained. "He'd have nothing to conquer. Plus, he can't beat Buu alone and he knows it. We're Earth's strongest fighters right now, so I guess he's hoping to bring Buu down by strength of numbers. Well...we should get started, I guess."
"I'm hungry!" Goten moaned, clutching his stomach, which conveniently growled at that exact moment. "Can we eat first?"
"Yeah, let's eat!" Break cheered.
"Hmm..." Gohan walked over towards the entrance, blocking the way to the kitchen. "How 'bout this. You two can eat as soon as you get past me. 'Kay?"
"All right!" Break grinned gleefully, but Goten wasn't pleased.
"Aw, man," he sighed. "How'm I supposed to beat you? It's not fair, you're older!"
"Yeah, but there's two of you." Gohan spread his arms, challenging them to attack. "C'mon, I'm not going to let you starve. I just want to see what you guys can do."
"O-kay then!" Goten and Break simultaneously flashed into Super Saiyan, charging at Gohan.
Piccolo was already half a mile away, and settling down to meditate. His superhuman hearing picked up on the distant sounds of battle, and he nodded slightly. There we go.
"Fire! Fire everything!"
If Majin Buu heard the distant voice, or even noticed the heavy-duty artillery impacting his skin, he gave no notice. There was another large city up ahead—another really fun one, one he could take his time with.
The rain of missiles finally started to itch. Snarling in irritation, Buu flicked his hand out, casually obliterating the armoured division, before moving on.
"I'm sorry, sir." General Ripper saluted half-heartedly, approaching the morose Prime Minister. "19th Armoured has been destroyed. It looks like...well, you know."
The politician lifted his head out of his hands. "All this death...do you know, a third of the world's population is dead thanks to this creature. A third. It hasn't even been one day...where are those mysterious fighters of ours? Can't they defeat it like they did Cell?"
"That's just it, sir. I think they tried." Ripper sat down, sighing. "They were sighted leaving the World Martial Arts Tournament in a hurry, and shortly afterwards, we picked some of their kind of energy spikes. Not too far from there is where this thing was first sighted. I think they fought...and it won."
"Dear God...what do we do?"
"I...don't know, sir. We're going to wait until it's in an isolated area and try nuclear weapons, but...well, I have my doubts. And...I'm sorry about the King, sir. Don't feel guilty just because you weren't in the capital at the time."
The Prime Minister tried to put on a brave face, failed. "Just...keep me updated, General. Dismissed."
Roshi took stock of their assembled 'forces': besides himself, there Launch, Krillin, Yamcha, Zarbon, Videl, Kuriza, Hercule and Chiaotzu; Chi-Chi, Ox-King and Mr. Popo were also present, though still at work on their monumental task (the genie's magic sped the process up tremendously, but could only get them so far). All in all, hardly the greatest warriors the Earth had to offer, but they'd have to do if Buu showed up early.
Still, the old master's spirits lifted slightly when Dende reappeared from within the Lookout with another ally; Dr. Myuu. He had 'grown up', it seemed—his body was taller and adult-proportioned, with more dark tones, and when he spoke, his voice was deeper and less comical. "I hear it's the end of the world."
"Like that's new," Zarbon said, trying to make light of the situation, but his pained expression spoke volumes. Bulma, Eighteen and Trunks still weren't back.
"Hey, wasn't there somebody else living here?" Krillin asked, trying to see if there was anybody behind Dende and Myuu. "Where's Tarble?"
"Gone," Myuu said evenly.
"What?! Without even saying goodbye?" Launch frowned. "What's his deal?"
"It...would have been too painful for him." Myuu quickly realised they weren't satisfied, and wouldn't be with anything less than a full explanation. "His...attack on my hatred of saiyans was a passive-aggressive one. He didn't do anything; just lived with Dende and Popo and myself, and acted like a normal, decent person. It clashed so completely with my view of his race, for such an extended period of time...the prejudice couldn't hold up. So I suppose that he succeeded in his aim was part of the reason that he left.
"But I caused the catalyst. I could tell he was troubled, and one day confronted him on it. It turned out he had someone back on the planet he'd made his home...still waiting for him. What's more, she had a son by him. A mate and child! And he didn't mention it to any of us!" The Tuffle put a hand to his head. "He's a strange one...it's almost like family is meaningless to him. Everyone is his family; and I needed help, in his eyes, more than those two. But I was able to convince him that he'd succeeded, and they needed him home as soon as possible.
"That's when he finally showed some emotion...when he was about to leave. Dende contacted the Namekians, and they used Porunga to transport him home. But in those few moments beforehand, he had a complete breakdown. Told me to say goodbye to you all for him, however briefly he'd known you; he couldn't face it. I'm sure they're all happier now..."
"So weird..." Yamcha muttered. Then he lightened up, or at least attempted to. "But hey, I guess he can do what he wants. After all, now Vegeta's dead, he is technically," and here he did a surprisingly accurate Vegeta interpretation, "the PRINCE of all saiyans!" A ripple of laughter followed; though had Goku been there, it's doubtful that he would have enjoyed it. To all the rest of them, Vegeta was simply another enemy.
"King, actually." Myuu's words stopped the laughter, and all eyes turned to him. "What? I, like you, brought up the, er, vacated position his brother had held one day. He jokingly accepted it, then went further and reminded me that his father was dead too—technically, if Tarble wanted to claim the royal throne, he had the most direct claim. He seemed to become more serious about it later, though...said it might be a name people would remember. I wouldn't be surprised if 'the king of all saiyans' makes a move into galactic politics sometime soon. That one's got a sharp mind for that kind of thing; he often spent dull moments deconstructing past systems of government."
"Heh. Who woulda believed it..." Launch chuckled, then suddenly stopped. "Wait. Wait a sec! You reminded me—the Dragon Balls! Why don't we just use 'em, Earth's or Namek's, whichever?" Her face lit up. "We could resurrect everybody Buu's killed, or move 'em all off-planet, or something like that! I mean, I know we can't just kill him with them or anything, they won't work on somebody more powerful than their creator, but still."
Nods and smiles were beginning to spread at the idea, but Roshi shook his head. "No...I'm sorry to say that might be a bad idea."
"Uh, what's a Dragon Ball?" Hercule asked, bewildered, but was ignored.
"Huh?" Krillin looked around at Roshi, confused. "Why d'you say that? Surely it's worth a shot!"
"Hello?" Hercule said, agitated. "What are Dragon Balls?!"
"No, I don't think it is. Anything we do to reverse the damage Majin Buu is doing, it could just do it all over again. And if we move everyone to, say, Namek—Buu will just find a new planet to terrorise! It may even destroy the whole Earth if it gets bored!" He sighed, leaning on his staff. "I'm sorry to say that our only hope is to try and defeat Buu the old-fashioned way. Then we can focus on undoing the damage."
"C'mon, someone answer me!" Hercule pleaded. "What are they? Er, you don't mean...some poor dragon...?"
"Well, thanks for reminding me anyway, Myuu," Launch said.
"I hate to keep correcting people, but..." the robotic scientist began.
"But what?"
"But...I have had a lot of time to think. Dr. Myuu is...was...a twisted, lost man. Heading the way of Raichi, if not quite so far down that path." He straightened up. "I'm not sure if I want to be associated with that cycle of revenge...luckily, something came to mind. I'd once been given another name...brings to mind a beginning rather than a continuation. A new start, as it were." Innocence, even. A smile crossed his lips, almost too brief to see. "'Baby' will do."
"All right...Baby." Krillin nodded. "We'll be glad to have you on our side if it comes down to us to stall Majin Buu."
Chiaotzu sat aside from this conversation—hearing, but not responding. Tien's ki...it flared up for a minute, a while ago...but now it's completely gone. But he can't be...not again, he wouldn't let something like that happen to him...!
Gohan lay on the floor, panting. Behind him, Goten and Break lay in a similar sprawled position, remnants of a hastily-scarfed meal littering the tiles around them. "Oh man..." Goten breathed. "You can fight us without transforming?!" Secretly, though, he was ecstatic that they'd managed to get past the older hybrid.
"Well...you've only been Super Saiyan a year or so, Goten." Gohan stretched and stood up. "But Break...that wasn't your full power, was it?"
His cousin hopped to her feet. "Nah. You wanna see it?"
"Yeah..." Gohan dropped into a fighting stance. "I think I've got enough energy to go another round."
Goten shuffled back against the wall. "Uh...full power? Break, what're you gonna do?"
Break slowly circled Gohan until she stood opposite the Chamber's door from him. "Only if you're sure," she said, transforming again. "I won't be able to control myself...I don't wanna hurt you."
Gohan nodded, turning Super Saiyan in a small burst of power. "Do it. I can handle it."
"All right then..." Break's face suddenly became empty, as if she was letting her mind take a step back and vacate her body—and something else rushed in to fill the empty space.
The change was less like a deliberate transformation, and more like a complete and total loss of control. It began with chattering teeth, her mouth moving and twisting in half-formed words, seeming to attempt screams and growls but never complete them. Then, the shaking spread to her entire body, and a chill flowed out through the air around her. Gohan shivered, feeling the temperature's bite on his bare arms despite the normally pleasant environment near the centre of the Chamber.
That was when the physical change began. Her body swelled, rapidly increasing in size; simultaneously, her hair and aura took on an unhealthy green hue. Her image appeared blurry, and Gohan realised it was a heat-haze—yet the air around him only grew colder. All the heat around us is being drawn to her...!
At last, the great rage within her overcome her mind, and she howled with wild abandon, a savage, primitive noise. Gohan saw the twisted snarl, the blank eyes. Oh no. Then, she was moving, already upon him and striking claw-like with her nails, drawing blood in a diagonal tear down his chest. Like she said, she isn't in control! he realised. She's just attacking the first thing she sees, and I need to stop her...plus, with this kind of power, she can take it. He countered quickly, stepping back out of close quarters to put his size advantage to use, then punching her across the face.
Scarcely after her head snapped back, she twisted back towards him, throwing herself forwards and sinking her teeth deep into his arm.
"Oww!" Gohan hissed, prying Break off him and kicking her away into the air. Thick globules of his blood stained the floor beneath him.
"Wh-What'd she do?!" Goten exclaimed, sitting bolt upright in shock.
"Just like the future Break..." Gohan said, scowling. "...she transformed into the Legendary Super Saiyan form. Of course, she's still a kid so it's not as powerful as her other self—I think I can handle her—but it's still impressive. So young, too...I guess it's because she had proper training and a higher level of competition...the future Break only had one basic-level Super Saiyan to compare with, and as a teacher he didn't really know what he was doing..." That is...I didn't know what I was doing. Don't know what I will be doing? Didn't know what I will...don't have known what I will have done...? Argh, time travel. The confusion almost distracted him from Break, charging back down at him—almost. He sidestepped, sending his elbow after the back of her head and knocking her flat. The jarring impact seemed to snap her out of it, and her aura died down, the transformation reversing. "That...was impressive," he admitted. "I didn't think you were capable of anything like that."
"Heh..." she stood, rubbing her aching head. "Y'think I'll be able to train it in here?"
"Sure."
"Awesome! I never could use it before..." she shuffled her feet. "Mom said it was too dangerous. I only could do it since almost year ago..."
Gohan saw her excitement, Goten's envy. "You're both going to improve a lot." He found himself already adapting to the mentor role. "We'll need everything we've got if we're going to fight Buu in a year. So work hard!"
"Right!"
A month passed in this way—the kids found it easier to use the forced power-up of the Ascended form to increase their strength than to fully master Super Saiyan at first, and as they progressed, Gohan soon found himself having to transform to fight either of them, though that made it easy. Occasionally, Break would go Legendary Super Saiyan for a one-on-one match with Gohan, and as she progressed he found it harder and harder to come out on top—luckily, she was getting better control over it, and while she still grew enraged on transforming, she could now deactivate it at will. In addition, Gohan was getting stronger too. He never used the second level, but simply having it unlocked had opened up a whole new realm of power in the first Super Saiyan stage, and even his base form, that he had neglected to try and achieve until now.
The month passed too quickly. Piccolo returned, ordered Gohan out into the deep white emptiness, the central Hyperbolic Time Chamber building barely visible. He'd left the kids to train with each other, warning Break not to use the Legendary form on Goten.
"So...you're going to toughen me up?" Gohan guessed.
"If you can survive these two months...yes. You'll be tougher for sure." Piccolo immediately winded Gohan with a low punch, then swept his legs out and threw him away. "First rule! Never let your guard down!"
Gohan choked, scrabbling to his feet and going Super Saiyan. "Bullshit! There's training, and then there's—"
Piccolo phased into view directly in front of him, lifting him up one-handed by the throat. "And then there's reality! You can go Super Saiyan 2 under extreme duress—and you will, at least once a day, until you can use it at will. I won't use my full power, but it'll be enough that if you can't transform, you'll die."
Gohan threw a ki blast at point-blank range, making Piccolo drop him and scrambling away. He raised his guard, edging back cautiously. "If we defeat Buu, watch your back."
"I don't expect you to like me, boy." Piccolo began to gather his energy. "But maybe you can become a man."
Two months later (Hyperbolic Time Chamber time)/Four hours later (real world time):
Goten looked up from his lunch. "Hey, you sense that?"
Break lifted her head from the bed, tilted it slightly. "...yeah." A thump came from outside, and they scurried out to see. Piccolo was already gone, and Gohan was pulling himself up from a lying-down position. His hair was growing longer (as was Break's), and slowly-healing cuts and bruises dotted his body. His gi was ripped up, most of the shirt missing, revealing more injuries. He looked at the pair approaching with relief, like a great weight had just been lifted.
"Well...he did it, I'll give him that," Gohan said, sounding slightly shell-shocked. "I can go Super Saiyan 2 at will now..."
"So, he's on our side?" Goten said excitedly.
Gohan grimaced, trying to repress the memories. "Not even remotely."
By this time, the kids had reached the limit of forced, bulked-up powering up in their three months' independent training, and in the following month Gohan had them working on mastering Super Saiyan the way the older generation had while preparing to fight Cell. Surprisingly, Goten took to this quicker than Break, finding it easier to clear his mind and achieve total calm, even while transformed—Break was much more comfortable with simply forcing more power into her body, and struggled not to tip the balance into the over-bulky level, in which strength was increased at the cost of speed and stamina, rendering it useless. Gohan knew Piccolo was going to attempt to unlock their latent Super Saiyan 2 potential, so showed the form to them several times, trying to make them get a feel for it.
At the end of the month, Piccolo returned, and as Break nervously shuffled over to him, Gohan and the Demon King studied each other carefully, trying to determine the extent to which the other had increased his power.
"She's family," Gohan warned. "If you harm her..."
Piccolo laughed. "Oh, save me from the wrath of the great and mighty Super Saiyan. As ever..." He turned his back contemptuously, dragging Break off with him. "...if you surpass me, we'll talk about who's in charge here."
"Is he really that much stronger than you, big bro?" Goten was barely covering his anger with light-heartedness.
"Yeah..." Gohan nodded, grim-faced. "At least, he won't kill any of us. We're too useful to him right now..."
The loneliness was the hardest. Not just that it was the four of them for a year—though that was certainly depressing at times—but also the knowledge that their fathers were dead. Raditz, it was certain, was not coming back. The time limit for Dragon-Ball-resurrection had been passed years ago. Goku, though...the uncertainty was horrifying. What was Buu doing out there? With twenty-four hours to roam the Earth, what would it do? Would Goku be waiting for them? Would anyone? Or would they find only Buu, laughing over the corpses of everyone they knew? What if Buu came to the Lookout? The door could crumble at any second, destroyed by accident in Buu's ravages, and leave them trapped for eternity. The vast, empty expanse of the Chamber seemed to reflect their internal emptiness. Nothing was certain.
Days started to run together. Only Piccolo could still remember without constantly glancing back at the enormous clock above the entrance, or the gigantic sand-timers flanking it. The real world faded into distant memory.
Goku yawned. It had been just over five hours, and Old Kai had finished the preliminary dancing-and-chanting stage, beginning on the twenty-hour-long power unlocking process for real. "Can't I just stretch my legs for a second?" he asked.
"No!" Old Kai said firmly, turning a page of his comic and idly waving one hand in Goku's direction (apparently this constituted the ritual). "You must remain perfectly still; and awake, too!"
"Aww, man..."
Raditz, leaning against a tree off to the side, found endless entertainment in his brother's discomfort. Any small thing to take his mind off the distant energy of Earth's people, slowly diminishing.
Over 300,000 views! Woohoo (and other assorted celebratory noises)! Thank you, everybody!
For those wondering, the reason the king never appears in person in this story is because all his scenes were going to have to be serious, dramatic ones, and I can't type "King Furry" in a serious context without collapsing over the keyboard laughing. Hence the Prime Minister.
Huh. I can't remember the other things I was going to put here (I'm pretty sure I had another Dr. Space idea, and some more characters to rank in my Buu saga power scale; but I've forgotten the specifics both of those). In my head, I'm working on another Break Through the Limit Kai, but it's not at the writing stage yet.
Q: Congratulations, this is the second fanfic I've read where Goku gets his potential unlocked instead of Gohan. Hopefully you get it done all the way. By your scale I estimate Ultimate Goku to be a 4.
A: Prediction duly noted.
Q: Great chapter, accept 300,000 is a town not a metropolis. A metropolis requires multiple million inhabitants.
A: (*Except) Oh? I didn't know that. Thanks. I thought 'metropolis' was just a word for 'urban area with lots of people'. Now I know. And knowing is half the battle. Violence is the other half, of course.
Q: So you made Super Buu significantly stronger than Kid Buu and SS3? Hmm not sure if I agree with that exactly. I had Kid Buu pegged as stronger than Super Buu or at least on par with him. Of course this all changes as soon as Super Buu absorbs someone of notable strength.
A: Eh...Goku was perfectly willing to fight Kid Buu, but was scared to fight Super Buu, even without anybody absorbed.
If you (that being you, any reader) want to take it that the Majin spell boosted Super Buu's power, go ahead...there's nothing in the story to directly contradict that. I'm just saying that's not my interpretation of it.
Q: Well, Tien's royally screwed, isn't he? I'm guessing he's going to try the same thing he did against Semi-Perfect Cell in canon, the Neo Tri-Beam technique where he pours his life energy into the normal Tri-Beam to make it much more powerful; of course, that's even less likely to work against Buu than it was against Cell, but he really doesn't have any other options.
A: Good point; it is his strongest attack. Of course...you don't currently know, because for some reason I have chosen not to write that scene yet.
Q: I feel so bad for Nail. I suppose they'll have to kill Piccolo and resurrect him with the dragonballs, huh?
A: Would that bring him back as Piccolo or Nail, though?
Q: Oh, yeah, and can't the HTC only support 2 people at once? And why's Piccolo so overpowered? Oh, yeah, and why would Kid Buu be stronger than Majin Buu, that makes little to no sense at all...Oh, and about Evil and Ki d Buu, yeah...
A: It's only got enough food for 2 people; remember that during the Buu saga, there were 4 people briefly, so it's not some magical property that stops more than 2 people entering at once. Piccolo...I explained that in-story.
Goku beat the crap out of Majin Buu, but was about even with Kid Buu. Therefore it makes very much sense.
Q: Hmm, the italics at the beginning make the transition from the Author's Note to the excerpt from Gohan's book meld together. You may want to space that out or divide it a bit better.
A: Yeah, sorry about that. I'll try and fix it soon.
Q: Gohan Shifting Buu's whole attack was really epic, & had that heroic feel to it that, I think, defines DBZ protagonists. Hehe, Goku can't remember poor Kibito's name! Well, on second thought, he has lost a lot of blood, so that's forgivable. Anyway, you gave a good explanation of why the other Kais' souls weren't in Otherworld. It was also nice how you avoiding the whole bribing-Old-Kaioushin-with-Bulma bit. I always figured that Goku was acting out of character in canon when he pulled that.
A: Well...the fate of the universe was at stake...but yeah, I couldn't think of a way to put it that would seem, well, okay.
Come to think of it, the fate of the universe was at stake, why did Old Kai even need a bribe?!
Q: Well... that was rather... I'm having trouble finding the words to describe it. The pacing was fast at parts but seemed okay at others, so I guess it kind of balances out.
I guess I probably just have an issue with how Piccolo is just sort of making random decisions. Not really his shtick, cause him and his father were always about cold, calculated decisions and always dealt with every foe with a great deal of seriousness.
This Piccolo... just seems to really like to be evil with no actual goal in mind.
A: He, uh, has goals.
-Take over the world. Get revenge on Goku.
-Buu sounds interesting, and I'd like to see what effect Babidi's spell has on it. If it works, it obviously won't be as strong as me (because naturally nothing is!) and maybe it can be of use to me, and if it doesn't work it's no great loss.
-Well, crap. Can't beat Buu alone. Need to beat Buu or there will be no world to take over. Also, it stole my kill with Goku. Better get these ass-clowns to help me. Those three are the strongest, Buu should be able to entertain itself for a day, we can use the HTC.
Q: if you need a way to introduce fusion, remember that dende knew about it, too.
A: He did, but I'm fairly certain he didn't actually know the technique.
Q: so my PL prediction after HTC...
Majin Piccolo: 3.5
Gohan SSJ2: 2.5
SSJ2 kids: 1.5
S#18: 3... or 5?
Mystic Goku: 4
A: Interesting! Remember the blueprints for Super 18 are from the future version...who was killed by a SSJ3.
Q: Hmmm I wonder how much power Goku actually has stored inside? I doubt it will be super saiyan 3 potential...or will it?! And if it's anything like canon, Goku shouldn't be able to actually go super saiyan anymore correct?
A: Less can't, more doesn't need to. It wouldn't increase his power, and would just waste energy.
Q: So Eighteen's making the sacrifice to try to face Buu. Doesn't seem like she warned Krillin beforehand. For some reason this was the more interesting part of today's chapter to me. She's sacrificing the rest of her humanity to attempt to save her loved ones and the planet as a whole. In canon, Vegeta sacrificed his life... but Eighteen's sacrificing her own humanity, something she only has a part of left, and potentially her life as well, considering Buu's power. Quite heroic, if you ask me.
A: She and Krillin have talked, yes; they mentioned this during the tournament.
Q: On the scale you said:
Kid Buu: 3
I disagree with that he should of at least be a 5 or 6. On the world of kais, Goku SS3 was a little bit weaker and almost on par with Kid Buu from the start, but then goku got tired.
A: Right, Goku was about equal to Kid Buu at full power. If Goku at full power is 3, then Kid Buu is...about 3!
Q: Also, do you have any plans to take this story to your own variation of what happens after the buu arch? Someone with your skill in writing could really do amazing things. I'm a fan man, keep up the great work :).
A: You bet I do.
Q: Raditz is not on 1500, he has only 1200, like the Plantman from the Saiyans
A: Their power level was never given in canon. Only in non-canon supplement thingies. And while one such thingie gave them both at 1200, another put it at 1500.
Also, Vegeta said "their fighting power is equal to Raditz". I doubt he meant exactly equal. That would be highly unlikely, for one thing. All we know is that they were in the region of his power level.
Q: Okay so I had a weird thing with Gmail and the notifications on this site and thought this fic had died, so I'm extremely glad to see this fic again. I thought about just individually reviewing each chapter, but I had to catch up from chapter 75 and it was faster to just jot my thoughts down as I went along. So I bring you, THE SUPER REVIEW!
1. HERCULE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! HELLS YEAH!
2. Soldier: "Sir, why don't we just attack them with all of our troops at once instead of in a one at a time gauntlet?"
Babidi: "That plan is stupid. You're stupid. Dabura, snap his neck."
3. I wouldn't expect the Gohan vs. Dabura fight to be the same because honestly your Gohan makes canon Gohan look like a little bitch
4. I think that "God" is really sort of a stretch for Kami, Dende, King Kai, and the Kaoishins. They're extra-dimensional beings sure, but they are pretty weak-sauce. The highest Z-Fighter that Supreme Kai could probably take would be Goten and he's the strongest out of all of these supposed "Gods." Bills and Whis are definitely a better representation of a god.
5. God, somehow reading Dabura's spit attack is much more disgusting than seeing it in anime or manga form.
6. Gohan having what is basically Janemba's shifting technique is SO badass. Also Raditz's sword :D
7. Okay, I take back that Gohan thing from #3. Why he didn't use SSJ2 I haven't a clue... (Edit: Never mind.)
8. Eh, crap. I had thought about that King Piccolo thing for my own future story that'll probably never actually happen anyway. Course it's regular Piccolo and not the original Daimao but still, comparisons would undoubtedly happen. Translation: I really like that plot twist.
9. On the Zenkai thing: So you say that the Zenkai increase is based on who kicked the crap out of them last? That actually makes Vegeta's last Zenkai make a lot more sense. He did to surpass Freiza and it might have worked if he had fought his Fourth form (though the whole percentage crap Frieza kept pulling might have screwed him anyway) directly beforehand, but the one who wounded him to near-death was KRILLIN. The last form of Frieza that Vegeta had fought was First (Manga) or Second (Anime) and thus he only increased enough to be able to surpass them. Or if he sensed the Third Form like Goku did with the Fourth it'd only be enought o beat that anyway.
10. Vegeta was only sort-of evil but his power was greater than Nail's. BTtL Piccolo is weaker, but is pure evil. I'm wondering if that means that Majin Piccolo is the same, stronger or slightly weaker than Majin Vegeta/Canon SSJ2 Goku (as they were pretty even w/out SSJ3)
11. But... could Piccolo really pierce a SSJ2 Goku with only half strength?
12. Seriously, I know he's good and value life and all that, but why couldn't Raditz just kill Dabura instead of stunning him?
13. I actually really like Dr. Space M.D. If anything the exposition is sort of a literature turn-on. Just don't take it to Honor Trip levels, there's only so much of that people can take.
14. Though I do like the BoD power system better, I really have to admire the easeand simplicity yours brings.
15. Aw, I'll miss the oppurtunity of there being a good Buu. Maybe.
16. Damn. I never even thought of the Kibito/Kaoishin relationship like that. It was mostly "blah, blah, blah, I protect him, I'm dead, I'm alive, I'm a dick to Gohan, I help Gohan get to Earth, FUSION!"
17. I just go with the theory that Frieza sucked at guessing how long it takes a planet to explode.
18. I always thought Budokai Tenkaichi just meant World Tournament and that Sparking Meteor was just a Japanese subtitle for the DBZ Games.
19. This chapter reminded me, what's Popo's power level in your world?
20. Tien gonna die. Horribly.
21. Is Vegeta evil enough to have a body in Hell?
Hopefully this SUPER REVIEW! wasn't too annoying. Keep up the great work!
A: I don't plan to stop anytime soon, don't worry. Now.
4. Well, Kami is, I think, a 'lesser god' (in the whole guardian/god of Earth sense) as understood by many pantheistic religions.
And the Kaioshins are pretty godlike! Telepathy, magic teleportation and healing, enough strength to defeat Frieza in a single blow...it's just that the Z-Fighters are awesome like that. And some of the dead Kaioshins who Buu fought were pretty powerful-enough to give Kid Buu a bit of a fight, at least, and Kid Buu outlasted even SSJ3 Goku...
8. Don't worry about it. I'm sure it's been done in some way before. Given how many stories are on this site, anyway...
11. Yes. Goku lowered his defences. I mean, think Piccolo kicking 50% Frieza away with only a little extra power.
12. He was in a hurry. He wouldn't really have minded killing Dabura, to be honest.
13. Don't worry. It's just for random things that come to mind.
17. Quite possibly. As TFS pointed out, it's not like he had a watch. Although I assume those are built-in with scouters, otherwise it'd be weird how none of Frieza's soldiers had a timekeeping device.
19. Not a clue.
21. Nope.
Q: Keep up the stories, and hopefully there can even be a DBM2. Raditz (BTtL) VS Vegeta! (BoD)
Cell! (Honor Trip)
Gohan! (Gohan; The Fallen Hero)
Piccolo (Piccolos Choice)
Android 1! (Android 1).
anybody else I can think of!
A: Don't know if that fight will happen, though it'd be awesome.
DBM2, though, will happen, if I have anything to say about it. IT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN. It'll be like the Expendables of DBZ fics. Except not as disappointing. So...the Expendables 2, then?
(To be clear, I think the first Expendables wasn't sure whether it wanted to be a parody of action movies or a straight-up action movie, and kind of floundered because of that. The second one firmly planted its feet in over-the-top parody territory, and was glorious. Feel free to completely disagree with me, of course.)
No, wait! I've got it! DBM2 will be like the Dragon Ball Multiverse of DBZ fics!
...wait a minute.
