He'd seen holovids, of course. There were millions of holovids of Kylo Ren plastered all over the HoloNet. But it'd been years since they were in person together. And you really can't get see the full scale in a hologram.
Standing right in front of him, with that stupid helmet off, Han couldn't deny how much his son had grown up. Ben was an adult. All those years, the years Han spent away busy on business, or Ben off training with Luke, or Ben led astray by Snoke, they were lost forever. If only he could bring his son back.