Disclaimer: Hello, this is an unusual posting, but no need for concern. This is directly related to C.G and Silver-Infinite for response, primarily just C.G, little small part for Silver-Infinite at the end. So, to every other reader, note this is filled with spoilers and spoilers, etc. Wouldn't recommend ruining random points in the series.
I posted this response section separate from the regular chapter as I didn't want to cause concern again like last time for taking too long. This response ended up being the longest one I've done in my whole time of writing. It's almost as long as a normal chapter and a normal response. This isn't horrible, but I wanted to not go silent and then post a 21k or more chapter after 5 or 6 weeks. The story part is being projected in my mind as the longest one yet as well, I'm working away at it, should be out in a week or 2. A third one is looking unnecessary, as long as nothing goes wrong in my life. Joy. Should be fine, the writing process is working out a lot better this time around. Infact, depending on how long the next responses are I might be able to fit them into the next chapter. Depends on how many I guess, I'll try to include a few perhaps, I'm not sure. Let's hope everything will get back on track.
Oh and just so people have an idea for next time, assuming anyone is here reading this besides the two expected) Synopsis: "After a critical connection is made between the incidents that occurred in both Metropolis and Gotham, Kate quickly returns home with Superman in tow, along with a reluctant ally in the form of Talia Al Ghul in order to help her team stop the Demon's Fist once and for all. While in Gotham, Clark Kent reflects on the last conversation that he had with Bruce Wayne in the aftermath of the latter's final battle with the Joker and prior to his unexpected departure in 2015."
In Response to C.G
Thank you very much, I'm sorry for worrying you so much, wasn't my intention, mainly mental factors made all those things happen. I understand why, I'm thankful you cared enough to feel that way. Hopefully, life will improve and I won't accidentally cause that concern to be raised in the future. Alright, I can tell you had a lot of stuff on your mind, that's fair with how long I took and it's okay I understood everything clearly enough. It was a little much to respond to, but again I do understand you had a lot on your mind and it's fine. This too has kinda helped me get back on track to how I used to write with my speed and progress. So thank you.
What One of the Items the Demon's Fist Should be Looking For In Gotham in The Crossover – That's an interesting idea and pretty neat pull, you seem to have a lot of knowledge even when not related to DC/Marvel stuff. I'll look up more like you suggested just so I'm clear on it completely hopefully. I like all your details about Ra's al Ghul, I'll try my best to put them into the story, it's all fastening.
The Original Idea for one of the Superman Flashbacks in the Crossover – I apologize for messing up with the flashback, I'll admit, that inclusion was "padding" the word langh for the chapter, which was coming up short unfortunately. I felt like I shouldn't have done that and clearly I was correct, kinda felt like it was out of nowhere. Your idea was better, I think I'll still be able to put it in modified a bit to account for what already has been said. Sorry once more for that mistake, hoping part 2 was better in that regard and my writing overall.
About Ryan's Job – Yeah, that sounds good, I'll likely go with that, maybe she could get a higher responsibility as the seasons go on?
Ryan's Black Bat Costume Clarification – Thank you very much, I see now, I was pretty sure it was that one, I like it a bit and got a better mental image now.
Should Talia Assist Batwoman in the Season Two Finale? – That's a good idea, I do have to admit I was planning an end for Tahani, an unfortunate one for her. I guess might as well share below, just so it's not confusing. Back on topic, she could still possibly help somehow maybe? Information or coming to help clean up Safiyah's final attacks, I guess due to the team being spread thin? Not sure if that makes sense. If she doesn't reappear here, it's alright. Or could just do what you think, that's fine too.
Regarding Tahani aka. Knife's fate - My thoughts were having Knife die for Safiyah, her "love." This would happen near the end of the season, when the plan starts to fall apart completely due to team Batwoman. Safiyah would be becoming increasingly desperate and Tahani unknowingly would be sent on a suside mission to district all the ones trying to stop the plans. Perhaps it could involve decoy virus, which she'd think is safe, but is in fact a bomb or something not completely sure. Safiyah would inform Tahani in the final moments of what she's truly carrying and what she needs to do, which apparently is critical for Safiyah and the organization's survival. Go down fighting with the cops and likely Kate & Ryan, along with the maybe bomb playing a part. Ultimately, she'd die, which is tragic as it's confirmed shortly after her death Safiyah doesn't care too much. Tahani died for a woman who never loved her truly like she thought.
Alternatively, perhaps she could be carrying the real virus or one of the viruses, assuming there might be more than one form or something. She could die being ground zero for it being released, which would ultimately fail and her end would've been pointless. My main points I wanted to hit with her death was the tragedy of how much she loved Safiyah, but never got the love in return she desired throughout her life, dying for something pointless for a manipulative monster. Perhaps that's too tragic, if so I'm fine with her just being taken down and sent to prison somewhere for her crimes. Could reform one day even, not sure, just sharing thoughts. Hope they are good ones.
Jacob and Gabi attending Thomas and Martha's funeral – Okay, thank you, I'll look into it, I think that would work out and would be an interesting flashback seeing those events from a different view of them and just seeing more of them in the past, even before Kate being born, or soon to be.
Third Casting Alternative for Ryan's Fellow Orphan – Okay, thank you for a third choice for them, you seem to be thinking a lot about their casting. I appreciate all the options given.
Clarification as to why Bat-Beast's creation is indirectly Kate's fault – Thanks for the clarification, I can see now why Bat-Beast was indirectly due to Kate's actions and why she'd have so much hatred. I'm guessing being caught at that time leads to the corrupt law enforcement doing many horrible things to her and her family from that point. I'm sure Kate would feel a great amount of guilt from that choice on present day learning about this.
The Idea of Saifiyah killing Scarecrow – I can understand that, It would make sense they'd be annoyed with his poor performance and terminate him. I'll do it then, having Saifiyah kill him off and it'll give Ryan some closure, having her mother's killer gone. I was planning on having his assistant O'Shay become Madam Crow and continue that legacy in a later season anyways. Quite sure Ryan would be intent on stopping whatever someone trying to hold onto Scarecrow's legacy would get up to, likely with Harper too as I suspect they'll be together at that point I do follow up on that, unless you think I shouldn't of course.
About the Dick Grayson plot for the eventual Court of Owls future season – That's a pretty good explanation and use of that plot point, I can see how it'd lead to that. I'm excited to finally get to write about that one day/season, it should be extremely fun and I'm looking forward to other thoughts you'll have in the future.
In regards to the milestone episode that focuses on the anniversary of Batman's final battle with Joker – That sounds like an amazing milestone episode, I'll for sure try to deliver a high quality episode, which shouldn't be too hard with a pitch like that, it excites me. Writing about that time and horrible day will be one of the highlight episodes for me I think, at this point anyways. Of course, lots of episodes to be written still and be thought up. Thank you as always for the suggestions.
Mara al Ghul "Portrayal" Suggestion – Alright, I think that's a pretty great idea, thank you for your well throughout suggestion as usually.
About Talia Hiding What She Knows of Bruce's Disappearance – Yeah, I can agree with that, I figure she'd be aware of all that going down. I'm sure too she'd respect his privacy and if she did find out his location, she'd leave it be.
About Kate Deciding NOT to Hear Alice Out – You have a correct feeling, that was my intention for what'd happen next. Kate learning a little more about these Many Arms of Death people, she wants to know what Alice knows and how she fits into all this.
PS I. I'm sorry about that, the joys of rushing. I can't remember exactly what I was going to say, I believe it was simply it was a good idea and that I agreed with your about the season and such.
PS II. I had no idea about that alternative reasoning behind the naming, that's a good name for Anakin's assault on the Jedi Temple, another loss from the EU I guess. Good remembering that and thank you for that interesting fact.
Before Julia Goes with Kate to Coryana – Yeah, makes a lot of sense, can completely understand that. Perhaps her reasoning would be wanting someone she could trust to watch her back to keep safe heading overseas to what appears to be a dangerous place. I do think he'd be hasident about this happening being concerned for Kate, would it make sense for her to reveal somewhat of a past with Saifiyah being the reason for heading down there gathering intel I guess? I'm not sure if that makes sense. Perhaps they'd come up with lies even. For Mary, I assume they'll get Sophie to be like a hawk on Mary to make sure she's safe and I can assume it'd have the benefit of keeping her distracted as well from Operation KnightFall (hope I didn't screw up the spelling again)
In regards to Julia being a mole/spy - I was wondering about this hanging thread still, you seem to think they should head to Coryana sooner than I expected which is fine. I'm wondering if this should be revealed during their trip? Of course the question of why she'd be somewhat working against them, Silver-Infinite suggested that Alfried is being held hostage. I do think that would make sense, but I also feel that would be difficult being in Alfried and explaining why he isn't with Bruce or why he doesn't know where he is and etc. Perhaps you have a sulation? My thought was to have it be a trick via Clayface or some shape shifter idk. I figured a Clayface would make sense considering I imagine it'd be an actor or actress version of that character. Hopefully that all made sense, sorry if my explaining isn't the greatest.
Whisper Should Slowly Become Darker – Yes, you are correct about that, it was my intention to have her lose herself trying to leave Gotham and have a happy life with Ryan ultimately ending in like you said, supervillain destiny. I do agree with and was planning on Ryan commenting on that noticing the change. I do feel as well Whisper might go trying to do work for Saifiyah/Many Arms of Death again despite knowing what evils they are capable of which will disgust Ryan further.
Casting Suggestion for your story's version of Stephanie Brown – I've never heard of her, but I did look her up and it seems like a pretty good choice, I trust your judgement so I'll go with that suggestion, thank you.
Ace the Bat-Hound? – Alright, I think that is a pretty brilliant idea, I'm a massive dog lover so I feel quite silly for not thinking of that myself. I'll for sure do that, adding Ace the Bat-Hound to the family sounds like a lovely inclusion. I will have to think about it more, I think it'd be season 3 or likely later until this would happen. Thank you very much for the suggestion.
Your Story's Version of Ghost-Maker - Yes, I'm curious to see what will happen next for this character, I was happily surprised by how the conflict ended. I'm looking forward to what comes next in March. I think that's a pretty good idea all around and I remember that cartoon series, I was upset when it was canceled.
My Speculation About Tommy Elliot – Yes, I'd guess you are right about that, I'd assume his mental state wouldn't be great and he'd be quite a bit confused. At the time of writing that chapter I was pretty interested in one of the Dark Multiverse stories which was "Tales From The Dark Multiverse: Hush #1" it was a fascinating tale and I partially wanted to take elements of that story, perhaps continue his imposter angle, of course nobody would believe it which wouldn't be the point. He'd be a like The Bat-Demon of Arkham "haunting" it, perhaps could happen in the same season as The Three Ghosts, Batwoman may think it's another issue, a fourth ghost, but just poor timing or perhaps triggered by the ghosts, maybe even Bat Demon herself triggered this whole this the potential episode, it'd also be a chance I guess exploring the nightmare that is Arkham Asylum a bit. I'm not sure, just figured I'd share this thought, I do think yours would work as well into it. Of course, just a thought, doesn't mean it'll happen.
Advice for Season 2 finale – I think that would make a lot of sense, considering it's a double size chapter I'm sure it'll end up taking longer anyways so that works out. I can imagine that and try my best to describe it like that. Thank you.
My Advice for your post-Season 2 discussion chapter – I think that's pretty good title name, the second one works well too, it is closer to Behind-the-scenes then a commentary I think, perhaps a bit of both. I'll for sure do the rest of your suggestions too, they're extremely helpful for making this post discussion chapter the best it can be. Thanks again. I'll do the topics in that A format as well, the B one seems a little more complicated to me for some reason.
Ps. I was wondering a bit, that's interesting. I might use it too in the future. Thank you for sharing.
Season 3 Story Details Regarding The Man Who Takes Away Jacob Kane's Leadership of The Crows & Other Related Details:
Point #1 Alrighty, sounds like a pretty good name for this character, I'll be using it. Those are two interesting pulls, I do remember that film somewhat from multiple years ago. Can't say I know a lot about Resident Evil, to spooky for me mainly lol. I did play Operation Raccoon City. Regardless, still great naming and I'll definitely use it, thanks for sharing how you came to that conclusion.
Point #2 – That sounds great, not sure if "anti-Sophie" or "the dark mirror version would be better, I guess it's particularly the same thing. Again, sounds like another great name choice. Also interesting choices, I do believeI do recall both of those characters. I like the idea of putting them in a relationship and her deep loyalty to him, all sounds very fascinating, it's interesting to see how the differences for the other Crows will be too.
Point #3 – Cool idea, I'm all for this happening, will be fun to write about it all. I like as well how they'd not be questioning Jacob for his reasons for changing his tone about Batwoman, shows their loyalty well.
Point #4 – I remember, interesting idea, the drone idea is another good one, another similar one would be perhaps a game "Watch Dogs: Legion" the group Albein and their leader had a similar plot, of course more sinister. Brian's Crows getting dangerously close to crossing the line of becoming like The Colony or the above mentioned group. It's nice to bring back Harper to come help out with stopping the drones from being released, great idea.
Point #5 – I can completely agree with that conclusion. Can imagine him snapping completely and trying to murder Sophie for revenge after all the years of resentment having the second in command postion taken away, understandable why he'd be so pissed off over it. Makes sense the heroes wouldn't be able to come help out in time and that Jacob would need to finish everything with him. Sounds like a fitting end for this character and great final words to Jacob, a poetic end.
Point #6 – I love his speech and the whole ending to the season, sounds like a high lovely note to end the third season on. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll for sure be doing that ending.
PS I: I understand your reasoning for thinking that being a possible conclusion, I'll have to disagree and go with the final showdown with Sophie. Personally, it'd make Brian seem like a straight up villain in the end I believe considering how close he was with her. I do think he'll begin becoming nasy to her due to the madness or paranoia like you said making their relationship crumble like everything else around them.
PS II Well yes they did, however, the "Crows'' was a show creation. In the comics Jacob Kane briefly brought together a few army buddies and they were the "Murder Crows" at least what they called themselfs I think, they helped Kate and Maggie go rescue Alice from Mr. Bones in The DEO which was far different from the CW version. Sadly at that point the story was cut short due to DC dening Kate and Meggie getting married, due to heroes not being allowed to be married apparently. So the story was cut off as the writers were pissed. I wonder if Batwoman would be different if things worked out for them, oh well. Sorry for the tangent.
To answer your question at last, I don't think she should personally, I understand the thought behind it and it would make sense to gain their trust, maybe I'll change my mind. For now, I feel like it would be a risk revealing her identity to do a bunch of random Crows, even though they're loyal, I'm not sure.
Question about "Proctor" – Now Brian is established, I'm wondering a bit about this character? I mean, naturally, he'll be joining Jacob's Batwoman killing team and doing all that. I guess I'm curious for season 3 if you think he should have some role? My thought would be having him be a wild card, having it unclear where is allegiance lies? Personally, I think it would be with Jacob, but being a great spy under Brian which might very well get him killed during Brain starting to become paranoid and snapping a bit realizing it's all a trick and this might have lead to his downfall in part. I'm not sure, just a thought, feel free as always to give your own.
Updated Fan-Fiction Character Description for Bat-Soldier:
Bat-Soldier (Natalie "Nattie" Addams) – I love your description for Bat-Soldier, it's clear how much thought and love you poured into this. I appreciate it greatly, I don't really have much to say other than it's one of the best suggestions so far, thank you as always for all the assistance. I'll say it's a helpful complete version of what I should remember for this character, I know there are other details as well which I'll need to reread about, but this is an immense help. Hoping very much to give all your thoughts justice once getting to season 4.
PS I: Okay, I'll keep that in mind, it's a simple change, but I like it. I'll use that description as the most important thing to remember above all the other details, of course I'll still try using other ones not mentioned there to see if they'll fit.
PS II: That makes sense, she seems like a formidable enemy from all her training and being not afraid of killing. Oh that's a fun reference, I'm fairly sure that's Batman 89, during Batman saving Vicky Vale via a grappling gun thing, tho I guess it's the called the line launcher in the Arkham games. Could be completely wrong about that which would be embarrassing. I do recall the moment your referencing and I'll for sure do like that. Thank you.
PS III: Alright, I was wondering how they'd be able to stand each other, it's understandable they'd want to avoid each other, perhaps might get into conflict. That makes a lot of sense, I'm sure the combined efforts of the three women would shake Gotham and the lack of Batwoman temporarily. I think too some villains might try taking shots at these "Batwomen" piling into the trouble Gotham is facing. I'll try to take inspiration from those, I own the first volume of No Man's Land personally. I do believe that Gotham's mayor would fail to handle all this well, it's great set up for Jessica Dent as well, should she have a minor role during season 4 setting up further to her larger part in season 5?
PS IV: That makes perfect sense, neat detail as well. Yes it would and I'm sure it would be yet another clue for Montoya and the rest of the GCPD to prove the real Batwoman's innocence. Yeah, I figure she'll know straight away that Batwoman wouldn't be responsible for all that's happening, she'd be too intelligent and know Batwoman well enough, like Gordon with Batman.
PS V: I think those are perfect suggestions, if they ever do appear for sure remember those choices, which is possible.
PS VI: Thank you, I wasn't intending on doing that, still appreciate the reminder. I was planning on doing something like that, that's a great point I completely agree with all of your thoughts, mine were not as good. I'm happy for this advice. It'll greatly help out Mary's development which I was wanting to do, but got sidetracked. I'll be sure to keep this all in mind for Mary.
PS VII I can agree with your speculation about how it went down in the end, if that'll be shown, I'll 100% do that scene as you described it. That's a fantastic conclusion and I get the references you have in there.
More Ideas for Evil Batwomen of the Dark Multiverse:
Start/ maybe some cutting needed?
Quick mention - Silver-Infinite had private messages regarding these, they had some thoughts and suggestions/add ons for your ideas, along with a couple disagreements. Just figure I'd share for transparency shake, they do sometimes share constructive criticism which is fair. I hope it was the right call sharing their pm with me. The following is their words.
I just wanted to put my own input into it.
The Dawnbreaker sounds eerily similar to my friend's chapter (3 Js) in their story New Justice World Rebuilding the League now I don't know much about the Green Lantern power ring, but I cannot see it devouring Kate's emotions to make her go straight after the Joker. It would make her relive the car accident not be fearless.
The Apex Predator: Other than the wording reminding of the recent release WW:1984 I cannot see Batwoman being green like Beast Boy and The Wicked Witch because her DNA got mixed with a Martian. In the Young Justice cartoon Beast Boy got an blood transfusion from Miss Martian to save his life at the last resort. I cannot see that possibility happening to Kate for a couple of reasons.
I like to make my own suggestion for Batwoman The Warbringer. Gabby was an Amazonian and she gave birth to her twin daughters Beth and Kate on Themyscira. The twins became Wonder Women second and third hands where one acquired the amor after Wonder Woman died causing the other to be corrupted by Ares.
The Wicked Witch of Gotham: I know I suggested an Wizard of Oz motif if Kate was the one kidnapped instead, but CG suggestion of Kate being an witch who suddenly has the urged to run the car she's in off a bridge with her mom and sister still inside. Doesnt sit right with me because in this theme motif I imaged that the Wicked Witch being Kate's kidnapper. Also I do see Beth acting as Batwoman in this reality and if you want inspiration for more Oz themes look up NBC's Emerald City (TV series) which only ran for one brief season.
The Dread Pirate Kane: Kate would be evil along with Safiyah causing Alice to try to stop them while also trying to get her sister off the evil side.
The Dark Claw: Cannot see Batwoman with an Wolverine twist because wolves and bats aren't compatible.
The Bratwoman: Honestly sounds like a bad parody cannot say anymore about that.
Crisis on Earth-X: What if the New Reich Won?: Earth Beth and Kate would long be dead on this world or they never existed due to obvious reasons.
Flashpoint Unfortunately Flash had only one episode of this, but I naturally like CG suggestion of Beth being an darker Batwoman here (Suggestion reading Adventures of Batwoman by Fictionstv) because there's a Beth featured as Batwoman after her Kate left the role.
Red Death: Sounds like an copy and paste of the infamous comic book arc only lets assert Kate into this storyline instead.
I think I cover them all.
I wasn't sure how to structure this, I might mention some of what Silver-Infinite said in my response. I'm sorry too if my responses aren't very long, in all honesty I can't think of much to say in response to these, I do enjoy these quite a lot tho despite that.
Batwoman: The Apex Predator – Sounds like a good idea and I do recall "Apex Lex." I'll be sure to include it. Oh and apologies if I don't have long responses for this section, I don't really have much input in all honesty besides agreeing with the ideas being good, if not great. I don't think any of these are bad.
Batwoman: The Dawnbreaker – I like your idea a lot, I think it makes sense from how she'd react, I'm not sure if Silver-Infinite was right about their critzes, I do like your idea regardless. Along with how you'd not want the side of her face messed up, I haven't seen that and don't intend to look that up.
Batwoman: The Warbringer – I liked your ideas quite a bit, I do like Silver-Infinite's as well, the change with Gabby being the "main character" was a interesting change up I felt like.
Batwoman: The Dread Pirate Kane – I don't believe this is one of your worst ideas, I like it quite a bit, I guess it just saws your quilty of writing. I liked the details, Silver-Infinite's input I think was quite good for adding onto the idea.
Batwoman: The Wicked Witch of Gotham – I like your idea a lot, I'll admit, I'm confilcted between yours and Silver-Infinite's, they both have things I like from what could be expended on the ideas. I don't think they could be combined or if having two versions would be confusing, of course with years to think, I'm sure a compromise or blend could happen possible.
Batwoman: The Dark Claw – I do disagree with Silver-Infinite here, I liked your idea, I thought it was a clever female version of the Batman/Wolveren version.
Batwoman: The Bratwoman – I found this idea pretty great and funny, I disagree with Silver-Infinite, of course comety is extremely subjective and hard to please everyone. I love the moment you describe as well it's pretty funny I think, I'm not sure which one I'll use for the story, I like them both a lot. I think I'm leaning more to Meggie currently, but that could change, cause years. Again I do want to say again I really liked this and made me laugh which I needed when I read it.
Two-Face - Yes, I apologize how long I took to make a simple choice like that. I'm thinking of going with Jessica over Susan, no partial reason. I do think I'll put in a reference/joke about Jessica's parents having great difficulty with choosing between the two names. Sounds good, it seems like the candidate race will be exciting and intense (going with Mary's thought) It's good, yet unfortunate the friendship works well due to how it'd end up going. I'm curious if anyone in particular is behind that attack? Or is it just random unlucky violence, perhaps ironic due to her most likely having a hard stance against crime. I'll be sure to make sure it's on the proper side and take the elements from those storylines. Kate's investigation will be interesting, I do wonder if Jessica or even Hervey may have tried burying this past making it hard to find to protect themselves or something. Oh well, not too important. I'd personally think having her survive would be the better choice, having her die tragically isn't the worst, but more could happen with her. Perhaps slow redemption and truly getting help, Kate would likely visit her to keep on a good friend. Or could go down a darker path and break out causing trouble temporary for an episode. Either way, I think they'd be better than death, which would be quite tragic, which could be fitting. I love your suggestions for her plotline and I'm excited to put into effect with season 5. I think too the actress choice is a good one as always.
A related question to the Dents - So, this is a little something that's been on my mind for awhile actually, you might not recall due to it not exactly being a highlight, but the character Duela Dent appears. Most known as Joker's Daughter, among other things in the past. On top of that, her mother is apparently Harvey's sister which would make her the niece of Harvey and Jessica. Originally, I did have plans for that character, but it was before mentioning Harvey's sister becoming Two-Face. I'm not sure if this all matters or not, but I could always ignore their pressure and put in throw away deloge when it's necessary to explain their appsense/irrelevance to her. If not, I could share my thoughts on Duela's potential role and you could make up your mind if she should be axed or not, I'm fine either way.
Blacksun (Ethan Cobblepot) – Alrighty, good to know. I'll keep it true like asked. I shall add in those elements from the game too, I'll make sure to read and watch up on that. I love all your ideas for him. I like the add on of knowing Kate during childhood too. I'll do everything shared here.
Arkham knight (Astrid Arkham) – Okay, I quite liked her history from the comics so I'm happy doing that. I'll be sure to do that as well, makes sense she'd be happier with Batwoman wanting her to join the cause. Makes sense she'd work with them to further her own goals. I'd guess considering she's last to be brought down this would make her the "main" villain of season 5? I sadly can't think of anyone either, I'm bad at making casting choices, definitely not my strong suit.
PS I. Alright, I was curious how much would be taken from the game. I like how the team wouldn't let her get sent to jail, it's logical and good thinking they'd not stand for her being framed. Makes sense how she'd still get into trouble not having enough evidence for her innocence to be proven. I guess her public opinion must not be high before this happens if people assume she staged it. Would Ethan be trying to ruin her "character" in the eyes of the public?
PS II. Alright, I think that's a great idea, I was eager to bring some of Luke's family. Interesting choice, never saw it, but shouldn't be hard to find, I'm sure that's a great pick. It likely doesn't matter too much, don't remember her, but good point with thinking about it. I believe that's a great assumption, it surely would be damaged after his death. The reasoning makes perfect sense, I can see how that would make sense and be true from her perspective, I'm sure she'd not want to lose any more family after losing Lucius. I do remember that happening, and wish that series continued. I do think her learning the truth and reconciliation with Luke would be nice. It's always possible for that to happen, I think recurring would be more likely of the two options.
PS III. Oh yeah, I understand what you mean. I guess that would cause a little bit of difficulty. You clearly have put a lot of thought into figuring out an actress for Bat-Beast which is very commendable. It sounds like you're thinking very hard on this matter, don't stress too much, I'm sure you'll pick a great choice and there is still a lot of time to change your mind. Thanks for thinking so hard about all this. Very impressive, which does continue to the next section too as you gave more suggestions for multiple other characters.
Batman Character "Portrayal" Suggestions for Story:
Overall view - Sorry, to cut time for myself I'm just going to give an overview, I like all your suggestions, I do think they'd all be good. I must admit it's kinda funny thinking bond and Denzel worked for Batman. I'll be sure to recall this section.
PS. Oh that's alright, good to catch it, I missed that completely. Alrighty, I'll keep that in mind, I was starting to get confused and thought he had 4 for some reason, so I appreciate the clarification. I'll keep in mind to go off the current incarnation in DC. I don't disagree with any of your "portrayals" I think they're all well-fitting, you seem to have great skill when it comes to casting.
Tentative summaries for the First Four Episodes of your version of Season 3:
S3E1: Sounds like great first episode, I speculated most of the events of this episode from previous details and recall most. Wonderland gang trying to takeover all of Gotham is new, interesting and I'll mention it more in the Main Villain section.
S3E2: Great episode name, to not be repetitive I love and shall use all four, I'm thankful for the names as it's not my strong suit. I'm curious about this gang if you've got anything in mind? I'll refer back to the Main Villain section for thoughts related to this which I believe should fit perfectly. For everything else again, I suspected as much. Of course these descriptions are a massive help.
S3E3: I like how things would get progressively worse for Team Batwoman, makes perfect sense. I've read everything already so I'm quite excited to write about Mary struggling to help Jacob. It'll be great dealing with Harper having to deal with it, surely going to show off her heroic side that I suspect is hidden away from fear somewhat of being a low class citizen in Gotham and caring for her brother. (Of course, could be misunderstanding somethings)
S3E4: Once again sounds very exciting, seems like season 3 will be a lot clearly for me to write with its focus. I do admit the first 2 episodes expressly for season 2 were hard for me to write. Beginnings aren't a strong suit, so your assistance greatly helps. Looking greatly forward to season 3 and the back half of season 2 of course.
PS I. All sounds great, thank you for the expanded details of what Harper will be doing and what direction should be gone in.
PS II. Sounds like a great idea for drama/a crazy cliffhanger, I can understand how he'd be in such a horrible state being vulnerable to that type of situation happening. It's horribly unlucky how much was thrown at him during his downfall, of course makes it more interesting for the rise back up. That episode pitch sounds great, I think I'll likely be expanding on it once getting to it for real. I like how there is a group of Batwoman extremist fans who are seeking revenge on Jacob for his past acts towards Batwoman, primarily nearly killing her. I like very much how she'd resolve it peacefully, it's great when heroes do that and I'm excited to write about her ending it without violence and teaching them a valuable lesson no doubt. I'll enjoy her having to explain to them why she's changed her mind on him as well.
PS III. I can understand how that would be a major issue, clearly she is extremely angry with him and in a horrible place willing to do that. It's also interesting due to doctors vawing to do no harm and save people they are capable of doing so, I do know she's not a doctor officially, but she basically is, not bad, just another interesting angle. Do you have any ideas for the team member? I'd say Luke or Sophie, despite not being a member of the team, I think. I'll try my best to deliver that converation well between the sisters, it's going to be a hard one, but I enjoy ones like that for whatever reason. Thank you for the details, I'll be sure to remember them all for that conversation.
Ideas For Version of "Tales From the Dark Multiverse"'
Thank you for the note, I'll be sure to remember to keep all of that true for when creating these collections of stories.
I. Titles with Tentative Summaries:
"Flashpoint: What If Barry Allen Never Restored the Timeline?" – That sounds very exciting and an interesting take on that event, makes sense how Cisco was on the edge of doing such a horrible act as that leading to the likely end for that world.
"Crisis on Infinite Earths: What If Oliver Queen Rejected His Destiny as The Spectre? – That's fascinating to think about, I'm curious how they would win and what changes this new universe would bring. Great pitch once again.
II. Titles with No Summaries:
"Crisis on Earth-X: What if the New Reich Won?"
"Invasion!: What if The MetaHuman Bomb Fell?"
Interesting once again to think about the possibilities of what those universes could offer.
PS. All that is extremely creative and well thought out, it's crazy to think about how much could've been changed if a few minor details in the universe changed. I quite like picking Lucy Lane becoming Superwoman, I never would've thought of that and your great explanation. I'm curious as well about the Legends of Tomorrow's alternative roster, still a lot of time to think about it. All very interesting changes. This earth sounds most fascinating. I am satisfied with those suggestions regarding Beth Kane, I hope Silver-Infinite will as well. They really appear to like the idea of Beth Kane Batwoman which I understand the interest, I pondered doing a version of her taking the Matale before I settled on this series as you suggested during the short lived Sophie series era.
If Whisper somehow learns about Ryan's vigilante activities during Batwoman's absence (as opposed to the season 2 finale), Ryan could tell a half-truth story to Whisper by mentioning the following details:
- I do think it might happen before the season 2 finale, not much before it of course, just seems like season 2's end might be stacked enough.
Why Ryan came home so late in S2E9 - I think that's a pretty believable explanation as to why she did, I do think Whisper will try believing this, but won't be able to let it go eventually learning the truth herself. I'm assuming she's been lied to throughout her life, so being tricked by Ryan the apparent love of her life, would shatter her. This leading more to her villain destiny becoming uncaring and a true villain that will need to be brought down one day, losing who she was.
Stay away from Safiyah Sohail at all costs – Sounds good, I'm interested in writing Ryan having to first take care of Gotham herself and team Batwoman of course. I do wonder if you have any idea about this clue you mentioned, I assume it'll be tied to getting a clue of what she wants or exposing her, something like that? I'm not sure. I like Ryan would seek Kate's approval by telling Whisper that half truth, I think it'll make Whisper skeptical, but she'll trust Ryan for now. It's good as well Ryan would warn her of the danger Safiyah poses, it's quite the threat that should be clear from her explanation and all the truth. I do personally feel it'll get to the point later on where Whisper is disparate to get enough money or whatever to leave Gotham safely with Ryan, I suspect she's secretly got gangs pissed off at her. (Not important gangs or info, just likely would be mentioned in passing, she's a criminal afterall and more then likely has done shady dealings) I think Ryan learning about her going to Safiyah will be enough creak in their relationship which is tragic she'd be so desperate.
In regards to your personal theory about the canon Season 2 of Batwoman:
Alrighty, I'll keep that in mind. I'm sorry you felt like that, you have no reason to feel that extremely about it I hope. Let's hope your concerns/fears won't be so bad in the final version of the show, but hard to tell. Fair enough having it incomplete, I'm sure the news of Black Mask playing a role as "one of" the main villains, which could mean there is a third even. I'm pretty positive that this "third" won't be Scarecrow, I saw in a promo apparently her mother died in childbirth and her father died somehow before she was born, along with her going to multiple foster homes. All that seems to debunk the rumors regarding her character. Hard to tell where this season will go. (Pre Batwoman Season 2 episode 1)
(With the first episode in mind…and when I wrote this I didn't see that you heard about some of the episode)
#1. You appear to be dead right, assuming Saifyah isn't lying. Not sure if you watched it or not, I'll assume not from this point forward. It didn't sit right with me at all, her plane crashed and now she's missing. Hasn't accorded that it was staged, along with that apparently she was visiting Kara, who somehow didn't figure out anything was wrong and I guess never will.
#2. You were correct about this, however you were wrong about Mary, in fact she seems to be a cheerleader for Ryan for really no reason other than she feels bad for her. I guess fair enough, she's got a super overly tragic backstory I found. I'd guess it makes some sense Luke is skeptical, but they really haven't done a good job explaining why other then what can be assumed.
#3. This again, appears to be wrong, unless Mary has a massive shift at somepoint. I am curious if that will ever be brought up, it feels like Kate has been forgotten, despite Sophie getting a note with the stand out line seeming to be "remember me." We'll see how long that lasts, maybe they'll be some surprise.
#4 Hard to tell, I do agree and think this will happen, but who really knows at this point.
# 's possible that could happen, it's seeming more like this possible role might go to Sophie now that I think about it. In Kate's letter I mentioned before she confessed she's Batwoman, I guess to give Sophie clouser. Also claimed how the lie was meant to protect her and how she figured Sophie would push her away, which don't get me started on all that lol. Anyways, I think Sophie might push for this and another twist that actually did surprise me. Alice told Jacob Kate was Batwoman, so where he'll go from there is unknown, it appeared in a promo he might have been having a sit down with Ryan which didn't seem hostile. I do agree with your thoughts about Carline Dries, wouldn't surprise me coming from her. I don't think you're crazy at all for thinking such, fans have given death threats over less and breaking a promise like that is quite the insult. I'm sorry you even had a nightmare about this, I can tell it's upset you heavily along with many other fans. Still holding out hope things will somehow work out. Idk.
#6. I think you're right, but it's again hard to tell. With the recent news, of Black Mask and False Face Society being a big player. Along with Alice quote "wanting to start a war in Gotham." It's really confusing what is going to happen, it feels like Saifyah might have taken Kate or done something to her even to spite Alice.
PS. I think a version of "Infinite Crisis" could very well happen, the Arrowverse seems to be a mess currently, another crisis could help. Ironic how solving the crisis was the beginning of the end, when they likely meant for a new beginning. I'm sorry you hate yourself for writing those theories and I'm positive none of the other reviewers will hate you for these, I don't and they'd be silly for such a reaction. I'll try my very best to keep writing this series as long as possible, I'd love very much to do everything discussed even if it'd take years, I'm committed to this series. I truly do love writing for it. Feels like the most rewarding thing I've done in my life so far.
My own Theories for season 2, post episode 1 -
#1. It seems confirmed that Scarecrow 100% wouldn't appear, the rumors were slightly true, Alice kinda killed Ryan's foster mom which was quite sad. I'd guess Ryan will be gunning for Alice and wanting her dead, but will slowly learn to not give into those murderie argues. All the while Alice will slowly become hellbent on getting Ryan to snap and kill her cause she's really got nothing left besides tormenting the person who took her sister's place.
#2. This one is a little insane, I had a most unpleasant thought for Kate Kane fans, read at your own risk for more possible future frustrations. I do think it's highly unlikely. While writing my response to #6 I thought it could be possible Saifyah may brainwash/break Kate into becoming similar to Alice, maybe making her into the season 3 villain or at least one and would recast her, only then cause "she looks different from all safiyah's done" Then they'll have to all face off against Kate. Again, crazy, but I got no idea. Anything can happen now I guess.
#3. Sophie and Julia will break up and despite Sophie having a possible dislike for Ryan most of the season will somehow fall deeply in love with her. Somehow.
#4. Black Mask will more than likely have GCPD, Crows and etc in his pocket. I think this will be related in part to the corruption angle that more than likely will be explored. Along with some just being dirty for really no reason other than they just are. That's all I've got to add, I'm not really sure what's going to happen post episode 1. I guess it could be said as a good thing how unpredictable the series is for some people.
(This was written pre season premiere of Batwoman, I wrote this whole response out of order, which I hope doesn't make it a mess)
In Regards to the Main Villain of Season 3 - I've taken all your thoughts into consideration with my villain pick. I admit, my original choice was far different which I have been suspecting would need to be changed since you're adding more ideas to season 3's direction. Like with season 2, I'll share those cut thoughts after season 3 concludes. I was disappointed for a little bit, but I've gotten over it and rethought the season's villain and how they'd fit, I think this change is for the best. Tv season 2 coming soon actually gave me my new idea with the description revel for the season or whatever it was for.
Without further adieu, I believe the other threat should be, Roman Sionis, aka in secret, Black Mask, who'd be running the gang The False Face Society, or just False Facers, in secret too. The False Face Society is apparently going to appear which was surprising to hear, I doubt Black Mask will too due to appearing in Birds of Prey last year, though perhaps he's a secret villain. (...Yeah, I was right. I'm not even joking, hours after I wrote this section I saw this confirmed this, can't even make that up, I legitimately laughed like the Joker upon seeing that lol. Everything after this part is assuming Black Mask wasn't going to be on the show, whopise. From what I was reading, I don't think I'll be using any of the show's story so this doesn't change much) I recall Victor Zazz is meant to show up and he was a mob enforcer originally if I'm not mistaken. I do have plans for Zazz in case you wondered, I think it'd be tied up with Montoya, not ready to share more about it yet sorry. Anyways, back on point. I'm altering the character Roman Sionis a bit for the purposes of what you shared/belief the main villain should be. He'd be reimagined as a politician or city conical person, whichever you'd think is better. Sionis would be a bigger player in Gotham making power plays coming into season 3, once Jacob is replaced by Brain, Sionis would see this chance to "assist" him with growing the Crows strength and power in Gotham. Brain would be skeptical of him sensing something off, but he'd be able to make big deals happen and get access to a lot of resources needed. The cost would be trusting Sionis and giving him leeway when it comes to "possible" illegal activities. Nothing major so it would seem to Brain, just seems like a slimy, but helpful enough person. Sionis isn't popular and his many allegations against him, Brian "eats the bullet" looking past all these for the greater protection of Gotham, but still keeping an eye on his "associate."
Gotham would be in the middle of a gang war with The Wonderland gang and The False Face Society which has grown very fast after the disappearance of Batwoman. They've got a lot of resources and backing from somewhere, of course this would secretly be Sionis or none only to them as Black Mask. I do wonder if this should've been a group before? Or Black Mask has only created them now?
Your more than likely wondering why Sionis would be funding the Crows and The False Face Society to go to war. Basically, his thought process is whichever side wins this war, he'll win ultimately. He'll be gaining a large part of control over Gotham one way or another. Be it under the thumb of the Crows or ruling Gotham as Black Mask or even a little outlandish, but getting The False Face Society to "reform" and build the Gotham they'd want, being a hero to the new city. Either way, victory for him and profit.
I'm still thinking about his backstory and motivation for wanting all this in the first place, do you have any thoughts? I hope this was a good suggestion, I thought really hard about it and think this would fit well. I'm open to whatever thoughts you have, still months away most likely from season 3.
Quickfire season 3 stuff I couldn't naturally fit in there, or anywhere I'm not sure my mind is over flowing a bit, no order:
- Ryan knowing one of the members of The False Face Society from the orphanage days? I thought of an interesting deepish call back for this character's backstory.
-Harper's brother possibly having trouble with the gang? I'm not sure if this would be redundant cause I believe you mentioned him having troubles with joining some group, like with the Punchline comic happening here later or in flashback? I could be misremembering, I'll try looking back to see if I missed something, if I answered my own question, you'd not have seen this lol. (Or I forgot to erase…)
-Mary's clinic getting caught in the crossfire or rather having to patch up gang members from both sides of this conflict, if not even a third gang caught in the middle? I'm sure it's safe to say civilians will need to get helped out.
-Montoya making a police unit she can trust? I'll confess, my thoughts for this comes from watching many cop shows with my mom, currently fallen into the Chicago well of shows, Fire, Pd, Med if you're aware of those, which is ironic in a way due to Batwoman being partially filmed there. My best description would be the unit in "Chicago PD." Of course under direct control of the commissioner. I'll hint now I did plan for Maggie to join this unit, but I'll discuss that more with you in the part where you mentioned her below. I'm alright if that'd need to be changed I'll say that now.
Hopefully those were clear, I've got a lot of thoughts in my head and I struggle a bit with sharing them naturally or rather more clearly. Apologies if anything I thought contradicts your own ideas in any massive ways.
Jacob Kane's Reason for his Selection of Recruits for "Operation: Knightfall" – I love how all of that sounds, it makes sense he'd be trying to recruit the best of the best and how this team would be trained. I like how it'd later be modified to deal with Ryan as well, interesting how she'd not be seen as a threat. Nice too how Montoya wouldn't be aware. (I'm sure she'd be unhappy about it and it makes sense she would speak to Batwoman about it) I figured at least one or two should be shown, good idea. Yes that makes sense, I like how she'd have to outsmart them over facing head-on.
Details about Safiyah and Tahani – Alright, I hope these shall be helpful. I figured she'd have always loved Safiyah and respects her greatly, feeling wouldn't be mutual entirely, but that wouldn't be known. Safiyah would see her as a useful asset who she manipulates for her sinister desires, might show in private or something that part of her does feel guilty for using her, but believes it's for the greater goals of their group. Tahani would coincidentally try to prove she's worthy for Safiyah, mainly once Kate returns, she can tell there's some leftover feelings. She dislikes Kate greatly for leaving Safiyah all those years ago, along with Alice for betraying them, they're both in her crosshairs, but Safiyah doesn't want either of them dead which annoys and confuses Tahani. In her mind it's a mistake, one that like she suspected would backfire ultimately leading to her defeat of course.
Tahani was easy to be tricked and brought in, she family was killed on the island and she was egure to find someone, which brought her to Talia first. As you mentioned, Talia must have let her leave willingly for some reason, then she'd head back home and meeting Safiyah, she would've been a great person to bring to their orginazan. It would seem like fate from her perspective, unknown to her Safiyah would've searched her out upon hearing of an ex league member being apart from them.
Sorry if those details were scattershot, I can try making a more concrete picture in the future for details regarding them.
One small detail about Ryan's big fight in the Season 2 finale – Alright, I remember enjoying that movie, I'll try to recall how that went before writing that detail.
The name of the virus used in Safiyah's endgame plan – Alright, an interesting reference and I quite like the name of the virus.
When eventually getting to that "Black Lives Matter" episode for your Season 2 – Alright, thank you for the suggestion, I'll try to say something like that. Hopefully it will end up being a respectful chapter.
Before Jacob Shoots Kate in the Season 2 Finale – I love your speech Jacob would say to Batwoman before shooting her, it makes a lot of sense how his mind could blame the two bats for everything that has gone wrong in Gotham and his life. It makes a lot of sense and will be quite impactful for the final words he'd be seemingly telling Kate, I'm sure it'd greatly add to the horrible state during the first episodes of season 3.
Why Jacob will NOT end up in jail in Season 3 despite (apparently) killing Batwoman – I wasn't sure if that was a plot hole actually, he seemed hellbent on killing her so I assumed it was in his flimsy, but legal right. Tho, I guess it was a straight up murder from the looks of it, I'm not sure, wouldn't his whole team be implicated in the crime? Or maybe more likely it could add to him being unfit to lead them, lying about his intention to bring in Batwoman possibly alive and only dead if she resisted, which she wouldn't have been there. I do like how Gotham's City's mayor would pull strings, adds to the corruption and would add to Jacob's pain for seemingly killing his daughter and getting away with it scott free. (I do imagine Montoya would be furious over this being aloud to happen and she'd dislike Jacob Kane even further)
Talia should warn Ryan not to follow the same path as Jason Todd – I love that a lot, I'll hopefully do it justice in the story, it would be fantastic if I do pull that off correctly, like I'm hoping to currently.
Kate's Love interest in Season 3 – Yes, I should've mentioned all this earlier, I believe it cut from an earlier response section for whatever reason. All the following in this section and the next are not from that cut section. Your assumption might not be correct, my intention was to actually bring her in, you are correct with her being "endgame" and future wife. I personally don't enjoy much when a character has a set end love interest, but some are made just to delay the inevitable. I get it for some series, but I'd rather have their relationship begin to bloom during season 3 growing stronger and stronger, with some struggles of course. If you disagree, I understand. The latest I could agree to with her appearing would be season 5. Speaking of disagreeing possible.
Maggie Sawyer – Thank you for the reminder, I like all shared here. I'll admit, I did have slightly different ideas in mind, my fault for not sharing them earlier, had many other topics being discussed and my personal issues. I'd like to propose a compromise for your idea. Originally, I thought Maggie would transfer over to Gotham City still as a cop, wishing to do more as an officer and person as the city she was in was quite relaxed, all things considered. She'd join Montoya's unit and become Question in a later season as Gotham's corruption would reach a boiling point to where she'd become that. I was still thinking about it and I do like your suggestion. My proposal I give for a combination of shorts.
Maggie would come to Gotham still as a cop, but like you mentioned "she'd get involved in a case related incident which would change her perspective on life and law/justice. "(which takes place sometime between her last appearance in Supergirl Season 3 and whichever future season that she appears in your story) that changes her drastically. As you said "she would be approached by Vic Sage (the original Question; who would be dying of lung cancer), who chooses her to become his protégé and become the next Question by teaching her everything he knows before he dies. After this, she would eventually come to Gotham City to get a fresh start for herself, but that would be easier said than done. Nevertheless, the best thing for her coming to Gotham would be meeting Kate Kane herself, who coincidentally shares Maggie's opinion of not wanting to have kids (though Kate's own belief is because she feels it might create complications in her superhero life). Kate and Maggie would not initially know each other's superhero identities until a team-up between Batwoman and Supergirl causes the latter to cross paths with the Question; who accidentally blurts out Kara's name while telling Supergirl to stay out of her business and prompting a shocked Supergirl to use x-ray vision on the Question's mask and see Maggie's face; which then prompts a private confrontation between Kate and Maggie the morning after. However, Kate and Maggie will work things out despite the revelations and their love for each other would remain true." You said it well, so hope copying and pasting what you said made sense. Things I would include/alter perhaps? I do think Maggie would highly suspect Kate and Batwoman are the same with her great detective skills which would be the best in Gotham. I do think she'd be a cop, but would still be Question sometimes in secret, she goes after criminals the police let's go, but she knows they are guilty and takes them down savagely, but hasn't killed any, yet. I think her doing this would tie back into that incident which has clearly affected her negatively. Ultimately, I think she's a cop at heart and can't fully let go of it, but doesn't feel like a good cop anymore, being a part viglentie breaking many laws to bring down criminals. It's complicated for her and I think as she grows closer to Kate she'd start getting a clear moral line again. Of course, whenever the events of her being revealed to Kate (I assume not long after her introduction) would cause some difficulties, but I agree and think they'd work though it and grow stronger promising to tell each other the truth from now on, letting Kate tell her about her team and etc. She'd not exactly be a member of the team, kinda like in the middle being a vigilante, Kate's love and a cop working in Montoya's unit. Conflict would arise from her rule bending at times.
With extra details, I think she'd appear early in season 3 and would eventually meet Kate first from chance at her bar, as Kate would be likely wanting a short break/drink not long after coming out of her coma. They'd have a quite strong connection just from their first moments of meeting. Then Maggie would shortly meet Batwoman afterwards via a case being worked on. Maybe then Question would be needed to complete the case and Batwoman would encounter her briefly. I'm not sure. Kate and Maggie would go on dates becoming closer. As Batwoman sometimes working with her and truly loving her she'd think about telling her the whole truth. Of course the whole thing with Supergirl would happen before she'd get a chance. Also, I believe Sophie will have a little bit of anger from Kate being willing to tell this woman the truth and not her. Though, she'd get over it not too long feeling happy that Kate's found someone she can honestly trust. While Sophie finds her true "endgame" herself, which might not be Julia, unclear at this point, could go in two different directions. I'm not sure if I mentioned that or not. I sometimes forget because I got a lot of notes written down that's designed for my understanding, until I reword them for someone, that being you of course, to understand them hopefully. My notes are a little weird in their og forms. Anyways, sorry for how long this section ended up being and not mentioning this earlier, I do think she should fit naturally into season 3, 4, etc. Her role doesn't really alter much from what I understand, just more happier moments for Kate/more romantic and more police/crime/detective possibilities. If you disagree with my thoughts for Maggie Sawyer, I understand completely. It appears as you figured she'd appear later in the series. Sorry for not mentioning it sooner.
Why You Had Me Name Saifyah's Zombie Virus As The "Plague of Madness" – Alright, that all is quite interesting, you seem to have a lot of experience with zombie-like viruses. (It's fine you enjoy dinosaurs, they are quite interesting nothing that should be shameful) Thanks for sharing about all the different sources of inspiration.
In regards to being iffy about using a Zombie Virus in my story – I have read a majority of "DCeased" I do like that story, I think I don't like zombie viruses generally cause I'm not a fan of zombies, in most cases. I do know it can be good, that is one good example. Thank you.
In regards to your prediction that the Zombie Virus will NOT be successfully used – Alrighty, I guess I was mostly correct, it makes sense she'd have an isolated test to see that it would work properly. I do like the heroes would stop that one case from spending, it would be an interesting situation to deal with and that remark makes sense, I'd agree.
Safiyah's opinion as to why she believes the Desert Rose cure can be extracted from Mary's blood – I love your explanation quite a bit, it's fantastic and I think makes sense to how it would work. It's interesting as well to think Mary is immune to every disease in the world, has future story potential too. I like as well how it'd mean she's unable to be affected by Scarecrow's gas, I like the moment you describe as well, along with how to prompt her being kidnapped.
The CW screwed up the Arrowverse again; I just found out tonight that they decided not to go forward with "Green Arrow and the Canaries" while keeping that stupid prequel for "The 100" on the table. The first thing to ruin the new year; can things get any worse than this?!
Yes, I heard about that which is a little disappointing, I wasn't to excited for it, but I would've loved to see it still, another sad blow. As someone who liked "The 100," the show ends horribly, in fact it was one of the worst endings to anything I've ever seen once thinking about it more and more. I don't want the prequel, nothing could interest me for it after knowing it's all pointless and how many things are clear for the past. Anyways, yes, it's upsetting. Hopefully, Superman and Lois will bring back some attention and care, it appears to be getting a lot of hype like Arrow and Flash did in their prime.
Yes, it has been going smoother, thank you. Your correct about that, still am and posting this just before the next episode will air, fun. That's fair, you didn't miss much, alrighty.
What You Didn't Like About It:
#1 - Yes, I agree with you. (Yeah, it did, oh well you were close I guess) I think that's most likely to have happened yes, I'm still confused what reasoning Safiyah will have to keep her hostage and how the team and Jacob won't save her. I guess my thought from above could still stand, to give an alternative on that's like disrespectful, maybe they'll find her and she'll have a "new face" somehow and idk. I am still curious about that, I feel the fanbase will flip on the writers if that happens, which would be fitting.
#2 - Yes, I agree with you, it was disappointing how they basically said everything important right off the bat (pun intended) tho we do know about her history with the False Face Society and her ex, so that will likely come up. Still, I do like mine better too, which is a little biased, but I guess it was mainly your ideas, so maybe not.
#3 - Yeah, that was confusing, the whole thing is. My only defence of that was perhaps trying to make it different from the two other Batwoman killing weapons. Which is ridiculous still I think that those were necessary in the first place.
#4 - Yes, I'm going to do that, it was my intention to go with that, not how the show ended up handling it.
I disliked more personally, but I agree with all your thoughts. The only one I'll mention is WHY? WHY, was The "Batmobile" just behind some random wall? Luke wasn't surprised by it being found, so did he know about it? Why didn't Kate use it? I don't recall a reason in the story why it wouldn't work for her, it's going to work for Ryan later. Why does it have missiles? Why did it have a shotgun? Why is it just a sports car? (Well, that's cause they're broke I guess) Again, WHY was it just there? I'm so confused. So so confused ahhhh. Sorry, needed to express that lol.
Other Things:
#1 - Yes you were it seems and yeah I figured it'd get to that point like you suggested for my series. I prefer him doing it from his own free will over Alice being a grand mastermind tricking him, somehow.
#2 - I admit I was a bit surprised by it, hopefully, Jacob will have a reaction. Yes your right about Alice doing that in Season 2 finale, like you suggested.
#3 - Yes, that was surprising as well, I'm really curious how things will play out now. Your right again about all that, I'm looking forward to dealing with all that.
Thank you for the suggestions and thoughts as always, this of course was the longest one to date. I'm sorry for needing to do a full chapter for this, but it was extremely long and I again didn't want to leave you hanging or Silver-Infinite, tho I do "Pm" with them sometimes. I'm kinda hoping the next response section would be as long lol and that I'll be able to fit it into the actually chapter. Not sure.
Silver-Infinite
That is a pretty good guess, I'll not spoil it, but it's not exactly true, at this time anyway, could add that in. I do like your thinking tho and it's somewhat correct. I don't know about that, I get the idea and think it's fun, maybe she could be a friend of Ryan's in a later season and I'll use that name.
Yeah, that was the idea, I hope that the mini crossover was alright, I do think part 1 was weak, but hope part 2 was more enjoyable. It seemed like they came to the same conclusion as you, which is good (:
Yes, I took so long episode 2 is nearly here lol. It's nice having tv shows be returning, let's hope they'll make the wait worth it.
