STOP! This is not a Story! If you're just clicking on this with no idea of what it is, this is not an actual story. This is instead the rough notes, explanations and plot outlines of a story I already have in progress called "Without Sin: All Star edition." I'm publishing this just in case I never get to finish that story. My life has become much busier now that I'm a Father and also working on a visual novel called "The Lewdest House."
Now then, with that out of the way, below you'll find my stream of consciousness meta data of "Without Sin." It hasn't been edited or checked for spelling and grammar, it's just the guts on the page. As I mentioned, my kid was born about three months ago by the time of this publishing, my paternity leave is over and I'm back to work. I'm also writing for the visual novel "The Lewdest House" of which I get a percentage of all the sales and subscriptions!
Now all that being said, with me being back to work, I've found I occasionally get time to write while I'm there. I don't want to make any promises I can't keep, but if it keeps happening, inbetween my stuff for "Lewdest House" I might start writing these again. But since Lewdest House helps pay my bills it always has priority. But with that out of the way, if you want to know secrets, and the ending plans for "Without Sin" continue below!
Alright everyone, here is where I will lay out the final plans I had for the rest of the story "Without Sin."
I don't know if I'll cover everything, and I don't honestly know how the format will go. There will probably be multiple entries, and because of that I want to make sure you all know the floor is open to questions.
Anything I don't cover, or you want to know more about, feel free to ask me, and I'll elaborate on it as much as I can.
So let's talk about how this story was made and what was and was not planned for it!
First things first, "Without Sin" was originally written by an author by the name of Red Herald. I've mentioned this often in my Author's notes, as it was Fic Allhurist who wanted me to read the story and more importantly, wanted me to take up continuing it.
At the time, Red Herald's story hadn't been updated in 2 years, and his bio had said any of his stories could be adopted if they reached a 2 year no update mark. Lo and Behold, Fic (Who had contacted me as a fan of "Shadow of his Heart") believed together we could really do the story justice.
Now I've said it before, but I'll reiterate it here. Fic is a PLANNER.
He's very meticulous when it comes to story design. We had many a discord call where we talked about the story in detail and then worked together on how to continue it. Every chapter where Herald had originally left off was planned out. Every twist and turn.
Along the way we came to realize there were aspects of the story we didn't personally agree with. This resulted in us trying to force the story in a direction we wanted by more or less making characters have secrets or different directions to fit the story we more wanted to tell.
The whole brainstorming outline was finished, lots and lots of chapters, character arcs and progressions planned out as only Fic could do in his conversations with me.
Then after I talked to some other creators in the fandom, and my own misgivings about the radical departure from Red Herald's original vision…
I completely chucked that outline out the window.
Okay, not completely… I would still use several of the arcs we had planned… Only now rather than starting from where Herald had left off, I would decide to go back to the beginning and make the story Fic and I originally wanted to tell.
Because the concept itself was awesome and Herald deserves all the credit for coming up with it… Two Lincolns switching places and a grounded look at The Loudcest fandom and creations.
But where as Herald was doing Deconstruction, I wanted to do Reconstruction.
So with no real outline I could fully use anymore, I went with my writing method..
Think about the ending, and how I wanted to get there… and character arcs and just… write chapter to chapter keeping ideas I wanted to showcase… and lots of talking with Fic between Chapters to get more ideas and more direction.
I like my writing style because it allows me to be agile, if I get a burst of inspiration about a topic, I can pivot and focus on that… bring in new story arcs and developments that seem important. Of course the downside is, sometimes I'd have to sit and really think about what needed to be written next..
But the ending was always in my mind. The ending Fic and I came up with together.
So at the end of the day, this is a long round about way of saying, I won't be able to tell you everything, because I probably would have come up with some new ideas as I wrote and incorporated them… But I can tell you lots of things… Lots of things that were planned, and what that ending was going to be, what ultimately I was working towards.
So let's spoil the themes right away.
In the Author's notes and in the writing I was always very neutral on whether or not I thought the Sinverse was good or bad or if Sin Lincoln was horrible, saintful or something inbetween.
As I mentioned, the goal of this story was not Deconstruction. But it was to be grounded and provide a realistic way for the family to function.
There was Never any intent to split up the Loud children, or make them suffer or anything akin to that..Sin Lincoln was not going to end up in Prison, neither were any of the Sin Sisters (neither were any of the Safe family for that matter).
There was going to be a threat of it but well…
Alright, time to lay everything bare, because I think the ending is the best way I can let you all know how the story was eventually going to go.
The ending of "Without Sin: All Star Edition" was going to see the following situation..
Both Families living in the same Universe together.
That's a Whole Lotta Louds! I know, and there was a reason we wanted that ending as opposed to having say, both dimensions/timelines merge into one…. Because that was going to be the plot of the Sequel!
Yes… we had a Sequel we wanted to write called "Good Intentions" (As the Road to Hell is paved with..)
So that ending, how was it going to happen?
The truth is, the Sin Louds were going to have the Law finally catch up with them.
Now as I said, we had a huge outline that had every little chapter planned out based off the original version by Red Herald, but I purposefully started going out of my way to make greater changes to our version of Without Sin when he came back to continue his own version.
But in the planned version we had originally, it was going to be Sam who put the pieces together (with a little help from a guilt stricken Lily, more on that later) and called the Police on The Louds.
I started to get away from wanting it to be Sam, because Sam was such a central character in Red Herald's version, more than she'd been in our own. Sam was important of course, but in Herald's version she played a more prominent role.
There was a chance it was still going to be Sam, but I was looking at other avenues, Ronnie Anne was another possibility… But I didn't know if I wanted to make Ronnie Anne an "Antagonist". As revealed before I had to take my hiatus, both universes were originally one… So the Ronnie Anne of the Sinverse would still be favorable to Lincoln… I was even toying with the idea of her potentially being let in on the secret… Not the Loud incest (though that would be part of it) but that Lincoln was from another world.
Then there was Chandler Mcann.
Yes, Chandler Mcann was going to be introduced as a Villain in the Sinverse.
I really enjoy the Loud House "Lore" or rather the whole setting of Royal Woods, so whenever I could use an existing character instead of making up a new one, I did so.
Good ole Chandler I hadn't nailed down completely, but he was going to feature prominently in Sin Lori's Arc… Chandler was either going to be a Mob Boss (Where we would reveal his Father's 'Waste Management Business' was really a front for being the Mob leader of Royal Woods with a stake in Detroit) or a Corrupt Police officer higher up than Lori at the Royal Woods Police Station.
He was already in the know about Lola's activities as an escort and Lori being her 'Pimp' and was using that to blackmail her into performing certain favors for him.
I was going to have one of the Fox Quintuplets run afoul of him and Lori was going to have to plant some evidence on them, or remove it, something akin to that. (When my wife had her miscarriage I was going to have Lori KILL one of the Quintuplets for Mcann, but Fic wisely realized I was in a horrible mood from that tragedy and talked me down to something a little les…extreme.)
But Chandler was most likely going to be the one to spill the beans on the incest when he found out and when Lori stopped being his obedient little soldier.
And of course, she was going to stop because of her relationship with Safe Lincoln.
No, not a sexual one.
Another big reveal here… Safe Lincoln was going to NEVER sleep with any of the Sin Sisters. Oh he would be tempted several times, and more it's revealed since they were originally the same universe he did always have an attraction to his own sisters, even if he buried it far far deep within him (as revealed in the dream sequences Lulu gave him).
But Safe Lincoln was never going to do the dirty with the sisters… and he was more importantly, going to make them realize the current state of affairs they were living under, couldn't last forever. Especially when the truth of Lemy and Lilly's relationship would get out (But that's getting ahead of myself again.)
The point is, Safe Lincoln makes the Sin Sisters better, just as Sin Lincoln would make the Safe Sisters better (More on that later too!)
So with the authorities closing in, the 'fail safe' that Lisa had prepared for just such an emergency would kick in… The Loud family home would go into 'lock down' and Safe Lincoln by this point, would have fully assumed the Responsibility as "Head" of the family, and lead them through the sewer tunnels underneath the house, several blocks away to an old empty field where Lisa had stashed a few 'get away' vehicles for the family.
They would spend some time on the road together, before ending up at a safe house some distance away. The family would be in dire straits, sad, confused, scared and reeling with the fruits of their sin having come home to roost. But Safe Lincoln, transformed by his experiences, by his love for his children and even his sisters, does not berate them, does not chide them. What's done is done, he's a new man, a real man by this point and all he cares about is keeping his family safe, all of them.
Unfortunately, the Law *Does* catch up with the Louds at their safe house. The Police arrive, surrounding the perimeter and now treating the Loud family more like a cult than anything else. They bring in hostage negotiators to try and convince the family to surrender and 'release' the Children.
The Man with the Plan is lost, but getting ready to sacrifice himself somehow, to try and help the family get away… and then, he's suddenly begins to fade away as the process to teleport him back home starts to take place… the last thing he yells out before he completely vanishes is "Stall them!" and he's replaced none other than by Sin Lincoln!
Sin Lincoln at last home with his Louds after his own adventures, but in the worst situation possible!
But what happened with Sin Lincoln to get to the point where Safe Lisa is sending him back home to the Sin Louds?
Glad you asked!
While Safe Lincoln has his adventures in the sin universe (I'll highlight some further down below) some very important things were happening with the Safe Louds too. Just as Safe Lincoln was fixing the Sin Family, Sin Lincoln was fixing the Safe Louds.
We were playing things very cagey with the Safe Louds, a lot of mystery to them, since one of the most horrible things that could ever happen was… Why would the Loud family stop being close?! That was part of the mystery and which drew a lot of you in, so let's lay some of these secrets bare.
The first and most important thing to bring up… Both Universes were at once "One" Universe. That was the chapter 16 reveal. But how did it happen?
It all goes back to a Loud House episode entitled "The Mad Scientist". In this episode, Lisa…tired of her family interrupting her experiments, accepts a position working at a research institute, only to discover she is still in fact a little girl and she does love and miss her family more than anything.
But, rather than just admit this and go back home… the Little genius is far, far too proud and decides on doing something way over the top to save face..
Time Travel.
Specifically, send her consciousness back in time to earlier in the day and turn the offer down.
I think it's important to note, Loud House is a kid's cartoon and plays fast and loose with science as those cartoons are want to do…. Lisa would travel through time in later episodes but there was a very distinct difference… She would travel bodily through time.
The Mad Scientist is the first and only time she sent her CONSCIOUSNESS through time. Not only that, but to inhabit her own body in the past and change her decision. Meaning, Canon Loud House Lisa is about a day older mentally than everyone else in her universe.
Furthermore, the visual that accompanies Lisa's time travel in this episode features her splitting into three distinct versions of herself before she ends up back in her body earlier in the day.
So of course, I ran with this concept way too far, and put far more thought than any sane person should for a kid's cartoon into a fanfic story and decided that would be the basis for the Sinverse and the Safeverse.
Lisa broke time when she sent her consciousness back in time… more to the point, I decided to be slightly grim with the idea…. The experiment performed by a 4/5 year old girl had side effects… One of those is she only sent a COPY of her consciousness back in time.
This copy inhabited her body in the past and this is where the "Canon" Loud House universe continues… Neither of which are the Sin or Safe verse.
The Sin and Safe verse were once part of the 'Canon" Loud House Universe (Important to note I play around a little with the canon universe timeline so I could have things like Benny being Luan's boyfriend at the time, but I tried to keep it as close to the cartoon as possible).
The Mad Scientist caused the canon timeline to split into three….The one where Lisa avoids all responsibility of her actions and goes to the past (Canon timeline) and one where a single choice in that Quantum moment caused the Sinverse and Safeverse to form.
Lisa in this Quantum moment, after she sent a copy of her consciousness to the past… doesn't realize what she's done… To her from her perception, the time travel experiment FAILED. All the flashing lights, all the power of the Machines and the lab… and it failed. She's still stuck at the research institute and utterly miserable with a very important choice to make.
Suck it up and tell her parents she wants to go home…
Suck it up and stay at the Institute despite how lonely and miserable she is.
That choice (and the time travel breaking reality) causes the domino effect of either the Sinverse or Safeverse forming.
In the Universe where Lisa admits how lonely she is… She goes home and jumps into the love of her family. She pushes it, embraces it, encourages it in the rest of her siblings. She admits to how much she needs Lincoln and Lily in her life…Lincoln feels a greater bond to his sisters than ever… Lincoln kisses Luan on the day Benny breaks up with her… they passionately share a forbidden love and start the family down a path that will change them forever.
In the Universe where Lisa stays at the institute, the family is reminded of her success. Lisa comes home and visits on the holidays but she stresses how happy she is, the important work she's doing, and how she's realizing her full potential. Far to proud to admit how much she misses them. Lincoln sees this, his own fear at being untalented unlike his sisters takes root inside of himself. He viciously begins to push them to greater heights, greater success even at the expense of their family. He finds his own talent and turns to it, zealously pursuing it so he can be 'just as good' as they are. The family sees success as the word of the Louds and begins to fall apart…
Oh and Lisa in the Sinverse decided to help her family along with the ultimate decision they made. That was going to be another reveal within the next few chapters.
Luan and Lincoln began their experiment together, but were eventually discovered by Leni and then Lori who quickly all joined them. The girls experiment with bisexuality, teen hormones and blended love strong enough to overcome any misgivings of their true orientations… but that of course would be temporary..
Lisa, after finding out herself what the family is doing knows it's going to end in tragedy as those hormones cool down… and their more rational minds begin to take over. So, she does what she thinks is the right thing to do out of love…
She… alters her family.
Just a little…
She changes the orientation of her sisters (some were always a little more bisexual than the others) but more she makes them far more palatable to their own gender as a sexual partner permanently. All the Loud sisters become Bi with her manipulations. She also makes sure Lincoln can keep up with them, she permanently increases his sex drive.
She lets her family's inherent love for one another do the rest. Now the family can satisfy one another, now Lincoln will be able to keep up with all of his sisters.
It's important to note, Lisa doesn't do this out of some form of derangement or twisted insanity. She saw it as the only way to prevent her siblings from having what she saw as potentially horrible mental breakdowns after the lust went away. As the sisters realized they weren't really Bi and it was emotions that made them perform those acts, they might grow embarrassed or ashamed of their acts. It might drive them further apart. If her sisters could be fully committed to enjoying the taste of their own biological sex, than their love would keep them together despite the taboo… And Lincoln would be able to satisfy all of them without any feelings of Jealousy cropping up.
Also, this information would come only to be known by Safe Lisa… as it would be a result of her doing more DNA testing on Sin Lincoln and breaking past the precautions her double put in her brother to hide those results.
This does make Lisa *slightly* more sympathetic to her other dimensional brother. It also makes her consider the circumstances of WHY she would alter her family in this way. Putting the obvious together as she realizes she would have done the same in the right circumstances (beginning to help her start to realize the universes were originally the same.)
So now you know why and how the Sinverse came to be, and why all the sisters and Sin Lincoln are oversexed. The girls are all legitimately attracted to one another, and Sin Lincoln gets horny often and very easily.
But back in the Safeverse this distance caused the family to make poor decisions in regard to one another.
One thing to reiterate again with all of this, is the story operates under the assumption The Louds all do Love one another more than a normal family does…and at times it's crossed the line into romantic love.
The creator of The Loud House, Chris Savino is known to have had an incest fetish. He had a comic strip called "Eddie Puss" that was about a cartoon cat trying to screw his mother. The writing room of the Loud House season 1 and 2 had art from well known Loudcest artists like JCM2 hanging up in it. Suffice to say in those early seasons there is an undercurrent of Lincoln and his sisters being overly close.
In the Sin Universe the family ran crashing into these feelings and explored them to their fullest.
In the safe Universe the family buried them, hid them and did their best to ignore them, even as they subconsciously acted on them here and there.
Lola married a Gay man for two reasons…. One was because she was the victim of Sexual assault… and because of that, was only ever comfortable with her male family members touching her… No other men (outside of Paul her gay husband) could touch her without her having a panic attack.
And of course, because she was in love with her brother.
Lori, Lori of course could have kept her own emotions buried, but then Bobby had to go and die (Convenient, I know) and she ended up adopting Lincoln's own son. She really did want him to stay with her and Bobby Jr, she even thought about telling Lincoln the truth of BJ's origin, but the time Lincoln spent with her…He himself almost gave in to temptation and he ran away, as fast as he could. Lori won't date any other man, she tells herself it's for BJ's sake and because eventually the boy needs to know Lincoln is his father and doesn't want to confuse him.
Leni….Poor Leni.
Leni married a model that worked for her. A European Model who took advantage of her kindness and her naivety to take control of her fashion empire and her money. Lincoln and Lori were too distant to protect her. They don't know she's being emotionally abused or that the adopted child "Bed" is currently her only source of happiness.
Luan goes on dates that go nowhere. They all expect the funny girl to be nothing but laughs all the time, but behind the scenes she's sad and lonely and most of her dates don't enjoy the girl behind the scenes of her famous sitcom.
Lucy already knows she loves her brother, even if she doesn't want to openly admit it. Lucy also has a psychic connection with her doppleganger from the Sin Universe. Her dreams are all things Sin Lucy has experienced. Sin Lucy has a connection with Safe Lucy and also seemed to understand on a mystical level that Safe Lincoln and Sin Lincoln are the same.
Luna, well, if you're up with the story you know her marriage isn't exactly working out either.
Lana has had a few relationships, but also being young still, nothing permanent nor has she shown interest in anything. She chalks it up to just not having met the right 'person' even if she misses her brother terribly and would love for him to come live with her on her ranch.
Lily is a brocon… Pure and Simple. She is in love with Lincoln but in a far more innocent fashion. She doesn't think it's possible so isn't stressing over it. Her big brother is her idol, she thinks he's the coolest guy in the whole world but she'd never make a move herself. She holds an awe for him, however if he made a move on her she would eagerly go along with it.
And then there's Lynn…
Lynn who was so in love with her brother, the only thing she could think to do was find the exact opposite of him in every way possible. So much the opposite of her brother he far, far worse than anyone even realizes.
I think it's important to note, as I got a few messages from some readers asking about Safe Lynn's Husband John and what his intended role was always to be. Before Andrew Tate became a thing, John was already planned to be a Villain. Quite frankly it's only funny he started featuring more in the story after everything involving Tate started coming to a head. I'm not a fan of Andrew Tate, I believe he says some things that are truthful but overall he's a bad example for men, especially young men to follow. That being said it's neither here nor there. I'm not "red pilled", I'm not "blue pilled" either. I'm a married man with a child, I'm completely out of the dating game, have been for years and I'm thankful for it. I know things are messed up within it for a number of reasons, but that's neither here nor there.
There was never any intended similarities between Andrew Tate and John, nor would he have been portrayed as an Andrew Tate stand in (except for maybe a minor joke here or there) nor was he going to be someone to condemn those who like Andrew Tate or endorse those who hate him. I try to keep my own personal politics outside of my stories unless it makes sense for a CHARACTER to espouse them.
So all that being said, John was meant to portray an idealized hypermasculinity with a few cracks beneath the surface. He was never meant to condemn masculinity as a bad thing, quite frankly I wrote a chapter where Safe Lincoln beats the crap out of two large bullies with his own MMA training… Safe House is no wilting sensitive artist… He's a "Sensitive" artist whose been in a number of fights and is capable of kicking the crap out of the majority of people he runs across.
John was going to be revealed to be involved in Human Traffiking.
He was just too 'good' at everything on the surface. He was making money and funding his career and Lynn's own with the money he made as a sex trafficker and pimp underneath it all. Ironically again, Fic and I came up with this BEFORE anything involving Andrew Tate was known. Andrew Tate only shows it's a far more belivable concept than we realized!
But the important thing is, Sin Lincoln and John were going to get along like Oil and Water, particularly with Sin Lincoln being a philosophical pacifist. Eventually, John was going to be outed and arrested by the Police… and Lynn would be devastated…
Sin Lincoln would have been 'working' on the family awhile by this point. (He also would have been working at Lynn's table, finally contributing money to the home and repairing the relationship between Lynn Sr and Lincoln) Having them talk to one another, (after the mother's day get together) making phone calls, acting like the Lincoln they all once knew…
This event would have caused him to do naturally what he always does… brings the family together… In this case, everyone, all the sisters and their kids (No spouses) to be there for Lynn. Everyone would gather at the home, and Lori would end up making a suggestion…
A big family vacation.
The family would use their (vast) pooled resources to rent out a palatial estate somewhere in California with a large pool and nature trails and just spend it all reconnecting.
Even Safe Lisa's misgivings about being afraid of their sisters finding out the truth of Lincoln melts away in the face of getting to reconnect with her sisters again and being there for Lynn.
It's simultaneously both wonderful and painful for Sin Lincoln… As he's with his sisters who he loves more than anything, but they're not exactly *His* Sisters.
There would be lots of fun moments between the kids, the sisters, as well as revelations of how miserable everyone was without one another… Lori putting Leni's husband in his place and threatening him with Legal action on the phone at one point. The sisters would notice Lincoln getting aroused around them, and cautiously talk around the subject, "Of course he does, we're so hot." Things of that matter, while entertaining old feelings back in their minds.
Lincoln would find BJ absolutely delightful though would love all his nieces and nephews.
Eventually, Lincoln would get drunk (He doesn't drink but his double does and Lisa tells him he has to drink to keep up appearances) and Leni would help him to bed. In his drunken state he would confess to Leni how much he misses *THEIR* children.
Leni would eventually tell this information to Lori and then the sisters would talk and an emergency sister meeting would be called. Why Lincoln is acting so strange… with their first thoughts being Lisa cloned him and they've been dealing with a clone Lincoln…
After some what would have been hopefully funny shenanigans, the truth would come out… This is Lincoln from another dimension… One where he'd created a family with all of them. Surprisingly, the sisters would take this information very well…
Especially after having spent time together at the vacation and reconnecting. It would begin the process of them asking Lincoln what they're like in the other dimension, and also what their children are like. All the talking and sharing of memories and information would finally get Safe Lisa to realize the truth Sin Lisa already knew…. The universes were one and the same and that was why she kept failing at trying to find a way to send Sin Lincoln home… it's another timeline not another dimension!
This would also end up leading to Sin Lincoln and Safe Luan sleeping together….in secret of course… as Luan discovers the divergent point is the night Benny dumped her and when in another timeline her and Lincoln got MUCH closer… Safe Luan wants to know for herself, what a night with her brother would be like…
But of course now with the truth out, and Lisa knowing what to do and having access to her siblings money, she's able to build a much STABLER version of the portal Machine (and this one CAN access other dimensions too, important for later) so Sin Lincoln can finally go home.
After saying goodbye to all the sisters, who promise him they're not going to drift apart, and also promise him they're going to fix things with *THEIR* brother, Lisa activates the Machine and sends Sin Lincoln back home..
Safe Lincoln reappears, shocked and dismayed only to say "Send me Back! Send me Back! My family needs me!"
Of course, after they manage to calm Lincoln down (and get him clothes, since the teleport still causes you to go across naked) they manage to get the gist of what was going on… and come to one conclusion.
There's no way for the Sin Louds to be safe in their own dimension at this point. With the Law on their tail, they'd never be allowed to be together as a family again. Despite their flaws, they are not evil, as none of them violated their children… (Except for Sin Lily who was set up to fail and well it's complicated she deserves her own explanation further down).
Safe Lisa takes a day to put together a series of 'transdimensional bracelets' aka science mcguffin plot bullshit that will let Safe Lincoln travel to the Sin dimension and bring all of the Sin Louds back over with him.
Now here's where things get a little fuzzy… I was toying with the idea of after Safe Lincoln gets there, the bracelet for Sin Lincoln becoming damaged… and knowing himself, doesn't let Sin Lincoln do the 'Heroic Sacrifice' but instead trades his own bracelet with Sin Lincoln and activates it before anyone can complain..
All the Sin Louds are then ported over to the Safeverse where the Safe Louds are waiting with blankets and fresh clothes and to welcome them…
Safe Lincoln's bracelet sends him to what he believes is probably a certain death (All the bracelets have to be activated together for dimensional stability and drama) Safe Lincoln is exposed to the raw timestream and dimensional energies of the cosmos and see's beauty before he begins to black out…his final thoughts going to how lucky he is to have gotten to meet his children… even if they're from a different timeline.
Back home everyone hears of Lincoln's final sacrifice and is heart broken… but just for a moment, before a 'thump' from outside minutes later catches their attention and they all run out to greet their returned brother.
And that's where I planned on pulling away, a happy reunion scene…. Only to jump ahead 6 months later.
Six months later things are very different, but stable for the new Loud family.
In the interim, Lisa approached the U.S. government with her Portal Technology and sold it to them for several Billion dollars. North of the Hundred range. Lisa also gives a portion of this to Safe Lincoln, despite his misgivings, making him a Billionaire.
Lisa also secured citizenship for the other Louds in this deal, making them officially on paper their "Cousins from Scotland."
The Louds are also all immune to any and all misdemeanor crimes on the state and federal level, allowing the Sin Louds to continue their 'peculiar' family arrangement. The Safe Louds figured it would be far to cruel at this point to even try and force the Sin Louds to stop their family arrangement.
Six Months later there are two Mansions, much in the style of the original Loud family home, on private Land in Royal Woods, right next to one another. The Houses are connected underground where a lab shared by both Lisa's exist.
The Loud families live Separately, but right next to one another and are frequent visitors as they begin their new lives…. For the Sin family it's learning moderation and to not ignore the obvious problems. For the Safe family it's reconnecting and acting as watch dogs over the Sin Louds…
While also trying to handle the obvious temptation that exists in the form of the other family's lifestyle right near by.
Both families are picking up pieces but Safe Lincoln has hope for the future. Money is no longer an issue and his family being split apart are no longer an issue either. But there's still so much work to be done. He also doesn't like the way his 'nephew' BJ keeps looking at Loan and how Loan keeps looking at BJ.
Lemy lives with the Safe Louds, not the Sin Louds as he hasn't fully forgiven his father for what happened between him and Lily, he sees both himself and Lily as Victims of the family.
That's where the Sequel would have picked up… The two families now as neighbors, the kids all playing together, Safe Lincoln trying to figure out what to do with his life, reconnecting with his sisters, and the temptation of the Safe Louds when the Sin Louds live next to them and seem so happy. As well as conflicts happening when BJ and Loan start to try and date in secret and are eventually found out. Oh, also the Sin Timeline and Safe Timeline both start a slow collapse that will mean the complete destruction of both if the Lisas can't figure out how to merge them.
Now one last thing before I go… I wanted to bring up Sin Lily.
Sin Lily would not be excommunicated from the family, or at least not permanently. This take is probably controversial, but I want to say right off it wouldn't be an endorsement of what she did, but a… sad semi-realistic take on everything when the totality is taken into consideration.
There would be the reveal that Lemy was the one who started the relationship.
He was the one who pursued his "Big sister Lily" with his genius intellect. This doesn't excuse Lily's actions, she was still the older person who should have said no… But given the environment Lily grew up in… Seeing all of her siblings commit incest with her elder brother and some of them with the same age difference as her and Lemy… all while getting denied entry into the Harem herself… it made her emotionally and mentally vulnerable to excuse bad actions on her part.
Because the truth is, it would be revealed that Lily was purposefully excluded from the sibling activities on an unconscious level, because Lincoln and his sisters eventually realized what they were doing was not right on some level. There was an attempt to try and keep Lisa out too, but she was too smart and got her way in. Lily was seen as 'innocent' and kept out, which only made her more messed up.
Taken together, given the family's own Hypocrisy, Lemy pursued a relationship with Lily and Lily gave in… When Lily started going too fast though, that's when Lemy's misgivings and reluctance entered the picture.
The goal would have been and try to be to not make the situation completely and utterly Black and White..
I mean it is actually in reality. It's never right for an adult to take advantage of a teenager, but Lily was not completely irredeemable and Lemy isn't 100% innocent.. Him being a Genius like Lisa was intentional for him wanting someone he could more relate to.
The Sin Louds come to realize they failed Lily. When her actions are first revealed she's completely banished from the family and the House… This would be the moment when Safe Lincoln takes complete control of the family by the way. But eventually cooler heads would prevail and it would be decided while Lily is to stay away from Lemy, the family loves her too much… and even Lemy doesn't want her gone.
Of course the other issue is Lily is too far along to have an abortion by this point too, so Lemy and Lily are GOING to be parents.
By the time of the sequel, the baby has been born and lives with the Safe Louds and Lemy… but Lily visits frequently and the families agree it's cruel to keep her from her own child…The whole thing is one big mess both Loud Families would eventually be trying to make the best of, while Lemy and Lily try to navigate what they want in the end… as eventually their age difference would mean less and less as they got older.
So that would be the completely complicated Lily situation and it would be in depth within the story, with the sisters realizing how much they messed up with Lily while also wanting to protect Lemy as well… Luna briefly being kept from killing her baby sister while also falling apart and realizing she helped make her baby sister like this.
Well anyway those are the broad strokes and overviews, there were lots of little plot elements and I can get to those too… Like what was going to happen between Charlie and Lupa, but I think this is enough for now… It's getting to almost 7k words and at that point I should just start writing chapters again!
Please let me know what you think of the over arching plot and any ideas or problems you have with it. I'll keep your questions in mind for answering at a later date.
I do hope I get to come back to this story eventually as it's been a lot of fun to write!
Anyway thanks for reading folks, CatSpeaker out!