Debunking Some Common Fandom-Myths-2

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Hinata invented the Twin Lion Fists and is a genius!

Which Hinata is that? That canon one, who was so talentless that his father was sick of her? That one? TLFs is a Head Family Jutsu, which was taught to her. It's listed as that. She never invented it and never combined it with anything! (The Hyuga Clan's whole shtick is expelling chakra whilst using Taijutsu, so not sure what sort of combinations take place during these Taijutsu maneuvers.) Remember, Hiata's such a fucking hack that, years into the future, and despite me taught by Hiashi and Neji, she still couldn't learn and perform Kaiten and Body Blow. Neji knew that since his Genins days.

Oh, and Hanabi beat the crap out of her regularly. What a talent Hinata is! Face it, your Hime-Hinata-Chan is fucking garbage.

Neji was more powerful than Sasuke during the Chunin Examinations, because Kakashi said so!

You gotta love the cherry-picked scans and the sheer incapacity of the readers to understand something as elementary as an unreliable narrator/narration. Was Sasuke less powerful than him at the start of the manga? Yes. Was that the case after he learned Chidori? Fuck no! This can be easily backed by Tenten's thoughts that she didn't know who'd win between Sasuke and Neji. You know, the girl who regularly trained with Neji and was his teammate? Then, during the forest of death, Neji was the first one out of K-13 to notice the Senjutsu chakra (yes, he could sense it!) coming out of Sasuke and called him a formidable foe precisely because how effortlessly Sasuke was controlling it; remember, Cursed Seals are just senjutsu; they're replicas of Jugo's Sage Mode, a fact he stated before they awoke Orochimaru. So, apparently, Tenten and Neji himself are both wrong, but Kakashi is right?

And really, Neji could barely react to K0 Naruto (one who'd just drawn Kurama's chakra, which hadn't overtaken Naruto in any way) whilst Sasuke reacted to K1 Naruto (on whom Kurama was dominant, evidenced by the fact that he could make the Rasengan with a single hand, which he couldn't do till the war-arc, and had slits in his eyes), who was so much faster than K0 Naruto, enough that, when he ran over water, he was releasing jets of water and gusts of wind in his wake. How's Neji even reacting to this Sasuke who was perfectly guarding Naruto's attacks and was only thrown back because of the sheer force of the blows due to Naruto's immense speed; and once he developed 3T, he was faster than K1 Naruto and proceeded to beat the crap out of him? Sasuke who's learned Chidori and onwards is way, way out of Neji's league.

Tsunade is a Senju and an Uzumaki, and she's got massive reserves as a result of this lineage!

Already debunked that chakra argument in the previous post, so to cover the other one: no?! Tsunade's never listed as either. In fact, the whole point of Hashirama and Tobirama's "Will of Fire" advertisement was to assimilate into the village and eliminate the idea of clans (Tobirama stated that before Sasuke). So they married into other clans, and that's how the Senju Clan ceased to exist. Not because they were wiped out of existence in the aftermath of warfare. This is debunked by Tobirama himself. The shit you people make up to generate sympathy for this clan (in a bid to make them stand shoulder to shoulder with the Uchiha Clan's tragedy's and dull its impact and call them lunatics in the process) is insane to me. Straight up manufactured fan-fictions.

It's also implied that Hashirama took a second wife, other than Mito, as Mito's never listed as Tsunade's grand-mother. In fact,a she's never listed as having any children or grand children. Mito's own data-book 4's entry states nothing about Tsunade, just Kushina whom she treated as an adopted daughter of sorts. In fact, it's never even stated in the manga that Tsunade even met her; and the data-book 4 only lists Hashirama, again, as her grand-parent, not Mito. Even if he didn't take another wife, highly unlikely as all evidence points to the fact that he did, then whoever his child was, he was married off to a civilian, ending Hashirama's line there and then, which is why no one else save Hashirama and Tobirama was ever referred to as Senju afterwards. (Tsunade also lacks all the genetic traits associated with Uzumakis and Hashirama; she was mocked by Madara precisely for being completely abysmal compared to Hashirama on every level; so like Ashura, her parent, canonically, didn't inherit any genetic trait from Hashirama; and Tsunade, as a result, got the shortest end of the stick, as well; or probably no stick or end, which is why her seal solely exists to compensate for her rubbish chakra reserves and subpar healing in comparison to Hashirama's.) Why? In Japan, like most East Asian societies, the son carries on the line, not the daughter. In fact, if there's no son, all the property and business are transferred to the son-in-law rather than the daughter; and if there are several sons, then the inheritance goes entirely to the first born and the rest usually get squat. (Sure, some rare exceptions outs of the millions through-out history do exist, but they're out of the norm and usually frowned upon.)

Indra was just a pissy brat over the inheritance, so the whole background of this conflict makes no sense.

Continuing off the argument above, it'd be extremely insulting if the father chose the younger son over the first born son for inheritance, when not that long ago, the practice of borrowing the hara (belly or womb) was very popular among the aristocratic families as men took multiple wives/concubines for male heirs; so such women were termed Ohara-sans (womb ladies); their job was to produce male heirs but the children, especially the male children, weren't considered theirs, but only that of the man's. The children were then taken from these women and given over to the father's household where the servants cared for them, and they were trained to only call the legal wife their mother. Most of the time, they weren't even allowed to meet with their mothers (if on rare occasions they were, they met their biological mothers in the servant area and addressed them by their name, which, in the Eastern cultures, is extremely rude behavior; however, as the mothers weren't of noble birth or not legal wives and of lower stature compared to the legal wives, they were considered beneath the father, even his children); other times, they didn't even know who they were.

That's another reason why we never get to read about Indra and Ashura's mother. Now, either Hagoromo created them from nothing himself, as he did with the Biju; or he took multiple wives/concubines and only one bore him children. It isn't explained either way, but anyone who's from Japan or has read on this would understand that the mother wouldn't have much of any value in those times. Even today as, again, the family line is carried on by the first-born son, not anyone else. Naturally, he's the one who carries on with the father's legacy. Which is another reason why Fugaku choosing Sasuke over Itachi as the Uchiha heir before the massacre is shown to be such a big deal, because it is! (Itachi wasn't chosen to lead the Clan in the future as he was hyper-talented; no, it's that he was the first-born son.)

In an inheritance system like that and a society that very much is centered on shame, why wouldn't a deadly quarrel break out between the two brothers? Especially when the intensity of their battles would be proportional to the powers they held? And they're literally alien demi-gods, so the scale and destruction would be proportional, when Indra inherited Hagoromo's genetic powers and Hagoromo gave away all his legacy and the Bijuu to Ashura? You're simply projecting your own culture onto a very different inheritance set-up and expecting your bullshit to make sense. Indra, heck, any first born son in his place, would be pissed, feel insulted, and predictably retaliate as he was not only meant to inherit Hagormo's legacy by that culture's laws but also due to the fact that he was talented enough to earn it. This isn't a series of wars that broke out from a petty issue. No, it's about wars predictably arising from a poor decision that should never have been made. (Madara and Hashirama both took the respective clan's charge, not Izuna and Tobirama; why? They're not first-borns!) Heck, forget Japan, human history is filled with these squabbles over land and property. I get it that you're middle-class, white, and thus, quite illiterate about other cultures, but for fuck's case, where's your sense of imagination?

If Kakashi had taught Sakura anything, she'd be a prodigy and better than Sasuke and Naruto, probably combined!

I'm not sure why Sakura fandom keeps beating the drum of "Kakashi sidelined her and ruined her potential" thing that's turned into a go-to cliché for this parliament of fools, but Kakashi is not a teacher in a sense that you lot use this word. He's a sort of boot-camp instructor to get the next batch of Genins out the door and get some Chunin promotions along the way. That's it. (Remember how many he failed? Why would he fail the students on whom he's invested so much time and energy? Resources, too, as the time he spends leading the kids is the time he can't spend as an active duty soldier? Does that make any logistical sense to you? Logical sense, even?) You've got no panels, zero, in fact, to back up this whole "sidelining" claim, which still bamboozles me; and this can be backed up by...I don't know, all the Jounins that lead these teams? Please, get your head out of your arse and, perhaps, read canon with both eyes open this time, as none of this is canon; so I'm not sure what's this "potential" bullshit that's so fucking widespread in this fandom that it's a meme at this point. (Apparently, even Shino had this latent super-power called potential; when you read this, you just know that this whole thing is completely idiotic.)

Also, as I keep beating this dead horse, chakra control (CC) isn't a cheat-code for anything. Please, don't consider Sakura fandom's crack-fueled fanon in this regard canon. It's a whole idiot-soup filled with wank and stupidity. (Hers isn't even in the top 20, really; in fact, make that 25; and if I squint hard, I can go down to 30.) What it stands for can be located in the term itself: you control the chakra flow so that very little or none is wasted, and this is explained word for word in Part 1. Her whole "gimmick" with CC is well-suited for people with puny reserves, people like Sakura. She's got no talent in elemental jutsus with shape formations, which, canonically, are superior to non-elemental jutsus as they require more chakra and shape to balance the range and scope of the jutsus; and she doesn't have large volumes to push into the jutsus to make them more powerful, either. The Uchiha do that all the time as their reserves are just fucking ridiculous, entirely absurd, in fact (if left alone, Amaterasu burns for 7 days and nights straight, and it's got a powerful chakra which the manga pointed out through Hinata; that's 7 days and nights worth of chakra for a single jutsu, a single one, so the more times an Uchiha casts it, the more of this "7 days and nights" chakra he's just put out; and Sasuke practically toys with Enton many times in a single battle, so you can imagine the sheer volume of chakra he just releases willy-nilly; like come the fuck on and quit this "she can compete with Sasuke" shit, when Sasuke is an extraordinary case even among the Uchiha, so his chakra volume and potency are through the fucking roof, which has been noted by many people; so much so that Karin outright points it out that his chakra is much thicker than V2 Cursed Seal Senjutsu; and CS enhances the chakra by, at least, ten times; heck, even Itachi, someone who had abysmal reserves for an Uchiha, was easily able to erect a whole sentinel up to its complete version, which, by the way, has five whole chakra layers); same for Madara and Hashirama; honorable mentions would be Nagato, Kisame, and third Raikage and Ae. Sakura would be dead-meat before she tried to control even an nth of the chakra these people handle like it's nothing.

That's why she was written to approach Tsunade: her pitifully limited range as a shinobi only works in this specific subset of profession. She doesn't have any talent for shape/nature transformations; none for handling vast chakra volumes; and even less for handling multiple, complex nature and shape transformations all at once. In fact, she doesn't posses the chakra volume or the potency for any of this. (For instance, Kushina was able to suppress Kurama because her chakra's unusually potent, even for an Uzumaki, not because she's got large volumes of chakra; so even chakra potency matters in many cases, and Sakura has none of that.) No scan exists to refute any of this no matter how many fix-its you write and how many times you scream very loudly about "wasted potential". What would he teach her, anyway, when she neither has the skill-set nor the talent and the biological (chakra) capacity to handle any of that?

And last, why would Konoha even attach one of their best Jounins with a girl who'd offer them very little in investment? Why would they make him out to be her personal trainer at all? What makes her so special? He'd just keep training her all year long in hopes of getting something out of that...for what, exactly? And during that time, he'd be off-duty? Does that make any sense? It's so hilarious that this scenario is so beloved in fanon and fix-its (Kill Your Heroes popularized it a lot) when it's completely nonexistent in the canon set-up. It's legitimately nonsensical as the only reason Sasuke retrieval mission failed was that, surprise, surprise, Kakashi was away on a mission. You know, because he's a Jounin? What makes you think that he'd sit around with a thumb up his arse, lugging around some really common girl that took two freaking months just to make one fish wriggle? This is tragically slow in comparison to Sasuke; he might as well be The Flash to her slug. She didn't even learn any Jutsu during this time! Sasuke only took a week, after the coma, might I add, to perfect Chidori and lee's weight-less speed. That's the reason why Orochimaru mocked Jiraiya that he's dull and slow like his student whilst Jiraiya shot back that it's boring to teach prodigies like Sasuke as they learn things so easily. Unless, your math is not fucking off, that's two jutsus perfected, one of which is an A-Rank jutsu that requires nature and shape manipulation. Why wouldn't you nurture a student like Sasuke who learns jutsus in a single day, even improvises them (Lee's Jutsu, which according to Gai was impossible even with the Sharingan), over someone who takes freaking months to make very little progress in a very limited field? None of this is hard to understand, and you'd have to be thick as fuck not to get any of it. Sakura, canonically, has very little to offer compared to the near bottomless, untapped potential Sasuke, even Naruto, has. Something which Kakashi outright stated in Part 1, which is proportional to his reserves.

If you want to write this as a redundant power-fantasy? Sure, be my guest, but why do you insist that that'd work in canon? It wouldn't in any reasonable scenario. Kakashi was chosen for Sasuke and Naruto as they're the Village's most valuable assets: Sasuke had the capacity to awaken the Sharingan and Naruto is their WMD. Why would anyone waste time on Sakura over these two, who, by the way, have infinite potential for growth? Which was shown to be true in canon? In canon, she was just randomly thrown in to balance the prodigy out with the dunce. She's the middle-mark. The mediocre one out of the three. Hiruzen didn't even bother taking her name when he assigned Kakashi to Cell 7. (They added some rubbish line in the anime, but in the manga, he didn't even mention her; he didn't even know her name!)

I shouldn't have to spell this out, but before I exit, I'd say this: why do you think Sasuke was not killed right off the bat when he ran off to Orochimaru? It's the part of law, isn't it? Why were so many teams send out to track him down? It's almost as if...he's, psst, far too valuable to be just killed off like that. In fact, Konoha would've been incredibly stupid to go down that route when so many wealthy patrons came to the examinations just to see Sasuke fight. That's monetary investment. The one thing that runs the village. He's valuable because he's worth the investment. Who would anyone invest in Sakura and for what reason? Sasuke was allowed this stint as he's, for the lack of the better word, very special. So much so that they sent out their own Jinchuriki to track him down, together with the best Konoha had to offer. Danzo had to go under every political protocol to get him assassinated. Like, come on, what's this nonsense? At this point, you just want the whole manga rewritten just to cheer for this dull middle-class-girl stand in, and it's so tedious at this point.

Naruto would kill Sasuke if he'd killed Sakura/Kakashi at the Kage Summit.

I don't know why people project so desperately hard and assume the position of fictional characters to think/act on their behalf, but you guys do know that Naruto saved Sakura...when he ran through Sasuke's killing blow, right? You do know that Kakashi spelled everything out to Naruto, right? Literally? You don't think Naruto knew what Sasuke was doing? He didn't say anything. He didn't even glare at Sasuke. Instead, every time, he told Sasuke that he'd rather die together with him than take his life. (No, really, that's canon as the prospect of taking Sasuke's life is foreign to Naruto that he can't even imagine a world without him, so he just imagines that he's not there, as well.) So he, basically, brushed off the killing intent. Is reading too hard? He forgave Sasuke for that Orochimaru Hideout part, too, when Sasuke pummeled him into the ground and nearly killed them all before Orochimaru stopped Sasuke. Have we read a different manga? A manga in which there's some inner-Naruto that's itching to kill Sasuke over some transgressions? Forever seething for all the slights? No, that's just you, buddy.

What about the time when Sasuke wanted to leave Sakura and Kakashi in the barrier to get nuked by Obito? He was talking directly in front of Naruto at that point. Naruto didn't even frown. What about the part when he left her and Kakashi hanging up there, literally by a scroll, leaving them behind to be burnt alive in the lava? All Naruto did was try and talk to Sasuke to go back and save them. He wasn't even mildly upset. He was just begging him. Seriously, Naruto just begged Sasuke. He wasn't upset with him. Go back and read the panels right now. They might jog your wonky memory.

What about the time when Naruto nearly killed Sakura himself (twice!) when they met Orochimaru at the bridge, over Sasuke? What am I missing? Kurama baited Naruto via Sasuke's mirage to make him lose control. When has it ever done that with Sakura/Kakashi? Never? It's just something you people keep making up as Kurama reflects Naruto's heart. Funny, how shallow his feelings for Sakura are if it can't even weaponize her image to tempt Naruto? So sad? You want to go further back? Part I? You mean when Naruto left Sakura outside at Zabuza's mercy and chose to go into the mirrors to protect Sasuke? What about the part when his seal opened more and he nearly killed Haku over Sasuke? What about the part when he took Orochimaru on repeatedly (and paid the price) to step in-between Orochimaru's serpent and Sasuke? What about when he went in search of Tsunade with Jiraiya just to save Sasuke (Naruto learned Rasengan and then completed it to FRS just for Sasuke; same for SM, KCM, and BM; Kakashi's and Yamato's observations exist for that; so do Naruto's own)? What about the part when he was ready to take on Itachi for Sasuke, even in Shippuden when he knew Akatsuki was out to get him? What about the part when Sasuke had to tell Naruto to protect Sakura against Gaara? You guys are aware that he took Gaara on for Sasuke, right? Should I go on? What has he done for Sakura and Kakashi that even remotely compares? What has he ever learned for Sakura or Kakashi? Nothing?

What makes you people think he'd hurt Sasuke when you consider all of the above? Naruto would take his own life if Sasuke died. That's canon. Straight from the horse's mouth, too. Has he stated anything even remotely similar for anyone else? No? Project less, please. You're not Naruto; and it's pretty much canon that Sasuke is the most important person in Naruto's life, and that never changed at any point in canon (I can even bring up Boruto: The Movie when Naruto practically screamed when Sasuke got burnt by Momoshiki; he was about to go berserk when Sasuke stopped him, and he beamed at him in reply; but I don't consider anything beyond 695 to be canon, so fuck it). Heck, he didn't even learn any ability without obsessing over him. Let it go, people. Let it go, because it's so pathetic at this point that this debate even exists. You can disagree with the character all you want, but it won't change the fact that canon Naruto's whole life revolves around Sasuke; he's metaphorically the heart of his journey. Too bad, so fucking sad? There there, someday, you'd get over it that canon Naruto would totally forgive Sasuke if he killed Sakura and Kakashi; and even if he accidentally killed Sasuke in rage, overtaken by Kurama's malice, he'd end his own life. That's canon, and Kishimoto made him say that not once, not twice, but thrice! Whoops?!

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