Well guys I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not too proud of this chapter, turns out the summary I planned out for this chapter was too short so I had to take some pieces of the next one to give it the standard 5k word length, so one of the surprises I planned came a little early, also you are going to question the ending of this chapter, don't worry there's a reason for it, just wait. ;)

Now enough of that on with the new chapter.

New invaders

Bulma stood out her balcony looking to the direction Trunks flew off too, she sighed thinking about what she'd done. 'Was this a bad idea?' Trunks was in such a good mood when she told him, she thought it was the best time to tell him. She actually wanted to invite 17 and 18 over for a while, they were actually nice to have around. Of course she missed her friends that were killed, however they were not to blame for any of the crimes Dr Gero forced them to do. It was his fault that their all dead not theirs, if only she thought of the namekian dragonballs sooner than maybe everyone would still be alive. Also with 17 and 18 as well, as the good guys instead of the infamous Androids who destroyed most of the world.

Bulma made sure to give Trunks time, to give him his own space now that the world's peaceful again. The blue haired woman made sure not to say a thing about 17 or 18 as he trained everyday like his father, she would only go about her day and talk with him whenever he was free. She didn't even talk about 16 who has been with them since last year, in fact Trunks actually found a friend in him. After she rebuilt his body and a while of seeing 16 with the animals in her father's garden, he found out this Android was actually peaceful. One day he actually asked 16 if he could spar with him, and he agreed. The two have been friends ever since, Trunks never showed any distrust towards him ever since.

If only the same can be said about the Cyborgs.

Now that she thought of it 17 and 18 may not come to the party either, she offered them place to stay with her too but 18 refused and the two wanted to live on their own. 18 didn't want to stay because it would make Trunks uncomfortable and so she may not want to come to the party either. And if she wasn't going Trunks may not want to either. She groaned at the thought, she just wanted Trunks to finally make peace with the Androids. She wants her son to move on from everything he and her suffered. Of course it was harder for Trunks, he actually saw everything they did. He was the one who got beaten whenever he tried to save as many people as he could. He was the one who had to fight them, making it harder for him to forgive them.

He lost his master and best friend in the struggle against them. How can she ask him to move on from that? A giant hand was placed on her shoulder. She looked up to see 16. "Oh 16, don't worry I'm fine."

16 let go of her shoulder and looked off to where Trunks flew off.

Bulma decided to ask the silent giant. "Do you think I made the right choice?"

The Android looked to her. "Neither 17 or 18 are at fault, you cannot be blamed for trying to help Trunks accept that." The machine stated. "Trunks knows that you are only trying to help him, I'm sure of it."

She nodded. "I guess, but still I hope it all works out." She said as she got up and walked inside.

16 looked to where Trunks was but then he looked slightly up, his eyes glowed lightly red. His sensors were picking up two odd energy signatures from out of the earth, the gentle giant sees there heading to a location not far from Trunks. These two could be hostiles, he decides to keep his sensors on their location ready to intervene if necessary.

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Trunks continued flying on his way him after accepting that he must move on, the androids were victims in this whole ordeal. The warrior thinks back to when the three of them took him, to when Android 18 spoke to him. The Cyborg truly did want to talk, also the emotions he assumed were fake were actually genuine. He thought back to how he responded to them.

I'm not falling for your crocodile tears you evil bitch! I hope your ready to die!

He sighed as he remembered the awful response he gave to her saying she was innocent, when she apologized for something that wasn't her fault. All he showed was his anger and hate to the Android, believing that it was nothing more but a game to her playing with his emotions. But the truth was the tears she shed was real, the sorrow she spoke of was real. His hate was real too, and perhaps it still is.

To forgive one's own enemy, no not even that. They were never even enemies, she and 17 were controlled into doing what they did. Trunks knows that the treatment he gave 18 was unfair, the distrust with her and 17 was as well. 18 shows that she truly feels guilty about the people who died by her hand, even though it wasn't her fault. Though he doesn't show it, it's possible 17 feels the same way. Both of the Cyborgs were innocent and he has to come to terms with that fact. They both have been training, perhaps they want to protect the earth as atonement for what the programming made them do. If so he will have to trust them, he didn't quite trust them even during their battle with Super Android 13 but even so they all managed to defeat him. Perhaps the three of them blasting their attacks at 13 was a sign of a good team, that together they can form a new group of Z-fighters and protect the earth. The Demi-Saiyan closed his eyes and sighed hoping that this will all work out.

Who knows, maybe one day he can be friends with them. He will be more open around them and no longer will he hold a grudge against the two for something they had no control over. Also as uneasy as he feels he must a apologize to 18, she didn't deserve the harsh words he said to her.

His eyes snapped opened, he stopped and looked up.

'What in the world?' Trunks thought as he feels energy coming from out of the earth's atmosphere. 'I sense two power levels.' He concentrates on their energies feeling that they weren't human. 'This could be bad.' He thinks as the power levels come closer to earth, he waits with his arms crossed for the two aliens to land their ships or whatever their flying to a destination. 'What's going to happen now?'

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In space not far from the earth two Saiyan space pods enter the earth's atmosphere, both of them coming at high speeds getting hotter as they dip in the planet's skies. The two pods continue to fall and crash land into a forest area, the two formed craters as they landed. The pods opened revealing the two extraterrestrials, with silver bands on their wrists.

One was a green alien with big yellow eyes and wearing black Saiyan armor. He also wore a green scouter. The aline looked around and over to his left where his partner landed. "Quite the planet eh Togal?"

Next to him as another green alien only he had a beak with slits down his green-yellow eyes, he wore the same armor and also had a scouter. "It sure is Omah, now let's go find them and finish the job." He said as he activated his scouter along with his partner. "Hmm?"

Omah looked at the numbers with fear. "That's odd, why are there four of them, shouldn't there only be two?"

Togal gulped as he looked at the three of the numbers. "Don't forget that there powers are much higher than ours." He said fearfully.

The green goblin looking alien looked to Omah. "Wait, our lord told us to only scout for them not fight them, remember?"

Togal nodded. "Yes, we should report that there are now four-" The scouter beeped. "Wait, one is heading towards us."

The shorter of the two began panicking and looking to his pod. "In that case we best get going before it's too late."

"Wait you fool!" The bird like alien shouted as he looked at the energy reading. "Look this power is lower than ours, we can take care of this one and tell him we brought one down." He suggested.

"Ohh that's brilliant, our lord will be so impressed." Omah said chuckling at the thought.

The two waited as the power came closer until they saw a man with lavender hair and wearing Saiyan armor. Togal chuckled at the sight. "Hello there, good of you to welcome us."

Trunks raised an eyebrow at the too odd looking aliens, their power levels were low enough for him to take on his base form."Who are you two?" He asked, this was the first time he dealt with alien visitors so he wasn't sure what these two wanted, but he kept his guard up unsure of their intentions.

Togal laughed. "Why were only here to take you Androids apart."

Trunks's eyes widened, whoever they were they knew of the Androids and for some reason were here to destroy them. The Saiyan narrowed his eyes again. "I don't know how you know about the Androids but I'm not one of them."

The bird like alien laughed. "Don't be ridiculous, we know your power level is too high for the people of this planet."

His partner interrupted him. "Um Angol, perhaps he's telling the truth, didn't our lord tell us of a half Saiyan fighting the Androids." Omah suggested.

Togal looked to him and back to Trunks putting a hand under his chin. "Hmm, yes but I thought he had black hair."

Trunks gave a confused look at that. 'Gohan?'

"How can you know, didn't all the footage of our spybots got destroyed?" The odd creature asked.

"Whatever" Togal waved it off. "Let's deal with this weakling and get out of here before his friends get here."

Trunks raised an eyebrow. 'Friends? Does he mean the Androids?' He thought and glared at the two. "I'm warning you, neither of you can beat me, so either tell me what your doing here or leave and don't come back."

The two laughed at Trunks's attempt to threaten them, the silver bands on their wrist began to glow and blue auras surrounded the two.

Trunks's eyes were widened with surprise as their power increased exponentially. "What the"

The two roared as their power increased to new heights, both looked to Trunks. Togal vanished appeared in front of Trunks and punched him into a mountain. Omah appeared beside him and blasted a blue energy wave at his target exploding upon impact. The two laughed and looked to each other. Togal was the one to speak. "Let's head back were done-"His scouter beeped. "What!" A golden light came out of the mountain and appeared right in front of them, the light started vanishing until it was a golden aura revealing Trunks in his Super Saiyan state. Togal and Omah's eyes widened at the sight. 'His power has gotten too high!'

Trunks looked at the two to see the fear on their faces. "It looks like you know you can't win, now tell me what you want or leave and don't come back."

The two glared at him and Togal chuckled. "Well your still outnumbered, you lowly scum!" The two then charged at the lone warrior, both threw various punches and kicks but Trunks's superior speed is able to sway every attack.

Trunks ducks from a punch from Togal and elbows his ribs. The Demi-Saiyan then knees Omah in the stomach both of them cringing in pain. The Super Saiyan then pulls back his knee from Omah, his elbow from Togal and elbowed both their backs crashing them against the ground. The Saiyan blasts his God Breaker attack at them, launcing the yellow energy blast the two.

The duo looked up and rolled out of the way, however the attack still exploded having the impact push them both away.

Trunks floated downward in front pod the two looking intimidating like his father before him. "I'll give you one last chance, tell me what your here for, and how do you know about the Androids." The demi-Saiyan threatened, getting the alien duo angrier, again the two charged at him ready to fight.

The Super Saiyan tried swaying every blow, he would have finished them off right now but the training he still hadn't fully rested from his last training session. He's having a hard time keeping his transformation up. 'I have to end this.'

Again the duo charged at Trunks throwing vicious punches and kicks. To Trunks they were going in slow motion, it was like two children against an adult, he caught Togal's wrist with both arms and swung his body hitting Omah and throwing him in the air. Trunks aimed his hands upward, his body being surrounded in a gold dome. "Take this!" He yelled firing his heat dome attack at the alien. All Togal could do is attempt to block as it was too late to dodge incinerating him completely.

Omah watched in fear. "Togal!"

Trunks looked down to see Omah who glared at him as he took a step back, the Super Saiyan floated downward and gave an intimidating glare. "Now tell me, what your doing here, and how do you know of the Androids?"

The goblin like alien cringed angrily that he had to face this half- Saiyan alone. The soldier clicked the button on his scouter, and began to talk. "My lord, please, give me more power!"

Trunks raised an eyebrow at this, he carefully listened as the alien kept talking.

Suddenly the wristband on his left arm began to glow, the blue aura around him and his muscles grew as well. "AAAHHH!"

Trunks crossed his arms in front of his face to shield him from the winds that were forming from his wild aura, he put his arms down to see that the Omah was now covered in bulges on his muscles. Not only that but his power had grown more than before, now he'll really have to end this quickly. He can feel his transformation depleting his energy rapidly, he realizes he should have rested before heading out. 'Too late now.' He thought.

"Hahahaha, thank you master, I'll now finish this pest!" He yelled as he charged at Trunks.

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At Capsule Corporation Android 16 is still at the balcony looking in the direction Trunks was, his sensors picked up the two strange energy signatures increasing. He also saw one of their energies disappear and Trunks's transformation's strength was much greater. But as the unknown power source was alone he can see his power increasing again, still not enough to be a threat to Trunks under normal circumstances. But he was still tired from his last training session, his energy is depleting faster under the transformation than normal.

Bulma walked out into the balcony and up to him in worry. "16 you've been standing there for a while is something wrong?"

16 looked to Bulma. "Trunks is currently fighting someone with great power."

The scientist put her hand on her mouth. "What are you talking about, there's no one strong enough to fight him or you guys."

The Android looked in the direction where the fight is taking place, Trunks clearly has the upper hand but if he keeps fighting in the state he's in he may lose and suffer dire consequences. The robot looked to Bulma. "I will go in case he needs assistance." He said as he started levitating off the ground with his man made energy.

Bulma sighed and shook her head. 'What now?'

Android 16 flew off in the direction of the battle at full speed, his sensors making sure to keep an eye on the battle.

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Trunks hit the ground as Omah caught a second wind, he rolled out of the way from a punch that shattered the ground. The Super Saiyan got up and got into his stance again. His eyes widened as he did his best to keep his transformation from fading. 'Damn it, I have to finish this now!' He thought as his opponent threw another punch, he then kicked him in the stomach sending him skidding across the floor.

But the alien rolled back up and kicked Trunks in the head sending hm to the ground. The menace then charged with his right fist cocked back ready to knock him out.

Trunks stood up to block a punch from the alien, he kneed him in the gut and elbowed his head. However Omah elbowed the demi-Saiyan's stomach and grabbed the warriors head with both hands. He slammed his head against Trunks's forehead multiple times, the Super Saiyan was having a hard time staying conscious, as he tried to keep himself from returning to his vulnerable normal state.

The alien then threw a hard right hook which sent him through more trees and the goblin charged at him.

The Super Saiyan caught himself to stand, formed his arm movements ready to finish the fight with his favorite move, however Omah got up and fired a mouth blast at him sending him flying against a bunch more trees. Trunks was on his hands and knees,, his form was fading in and out. He was beyond fatigued, if only he had rested then he would have been able to handle both of them easily.

Omah flew and stood right in front of him with his arms crossed. He chuckled at his prey. "Look at you so helpless, just as you were against the Androids."

Trunks's eyes widened as he said that, as the alien laughed loudly.

The alien shrugged his shoulders as he aimed his hands at him. "Get ready to- Gah!" The goblin looking creature's eyes widened, his pupils shaking in pain. He looked down to see Trunks arm deep in his stomach.

Trunks looked into the alien's eyes with a glare of rage similar to his father. "Shut up!" He shouted as he blasted a golden energy wave through his stomach, sending his now dead body with a hole in his gut flying up against the tree behind him. The Super Saiyan got down on knee as he allowed the transformation to fade and return to his normal state. *Pant* *Pant* The warrior stood up covered in sweat, he looked at the corpse of the alien he killed out of rage. Though he knows it was for the planet's sake he still didn't like the idea of killing someone out of sheer rage, especially with him trying to deal with his anger towards 17 and 18.

Look at you so helpless, just as you were against the Androids.

Trunks clenched his fist so tightly that blood came out, his hair started going upward but he calmed himself knowing how foolish it would be to transform again right now. The son of Vegeta looked down at the alien's body, more specifically his wrist band.

Android 16 came down next to him causing him to turn around startled since he couldn't sense his energy. "It would seem you didn't need assistance."

Trunks sighed. "Yeah, this time." He said sadly as he continued to examine the wristband of the alien. "Whoever these guys were, I'm pretty sure that more of them are on their way." He said as he knelt down and grabbed the odd looking wrist brand. "His power felt odd, it felt like his before the wristband started glowing, also he knew about 17 and 18 somehow." He managed to take the strange looking device and showed it to 16. 'And Gohan.' He thought remembering them saying something about a dark haired half Saiyan.

The Android grabbed the device and scanned it with his artificial eyes. "I advise that we take this to Bulma, she has the highest probability of finding out it's properties."

Trunks nodded and looked at the alien. "Also he was able to talk to someone with that thing on his face, we should take that to mom too." He said as he knelt to the corpse again and took the device off. He looked to 16. "We should go -" His eyes closed as he was collapsing, 16 grabbed by his waist and put his body over his shoulder.

Android 16's sensors tells him that Trunks is still alive only collapsed from exhaustion, he knelt down and took the scouter as well. He flew off in the direction of Capsule corporation.

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Bulma waited outside the house, anxious for to see 16 coming back with Trunks to let her know that everything was alright. The woman sees a large figure flying this way, she sighed knowing that she won't have to worry. But as she saw her son being held by 16 her eyes widened in panic. "Trunks" She said as the Android landed in front of her. "Is he alright?"

16 nodded. "He is simply exhausted, there is no need to worry." He said as he stepped inside the house and placed the warrior in his bed.

Bulma checked to make sure that her son was alright, she put a blanket on him. "All he needs is rest, good." She said then looked to 16. "What happened to him?"

The Android put his hands out holding the strange alien devices. "As I said, Trunks was fighting two non-human fighters, he also advised me to bring you these devices." He said as he handed the devices to her.

Bulma took the wrist band and scouter from the robot. "A scouter, one of Frieza's henchmen maybe?" She asked but shook her head. "No that's stupid, none of Frieza's cronies can fight my son."

16 began to speak. "Trunks informed me that the wristband glowed when the enemy's power rose, he also said that there maybe more of them." The machine stated as the scientist looked at the device. "Also he stated that they somehow knew about us Androids, you have experience in technology, perhaps you can find out everything if you hack in their devices."

Bulma nodded. "I'll do what I can." She said then turned to her son. "Rest while you can." She then walked out of the room with 16 following.

Bulma started examining the devices, specifically the wristband that somehow granted those weird aliens power. She put the devices in an analyzer and began to scan it for anything. The scientist typed at fast speeds as she tried to scan the alien tech, she already new about the scouter but thought that it was a good idea to take a look at it anyway.

16 watched in silent as Bulma kept typing, the machine looked at the devices as well with curiosity.

The scientist finished scanning them and grabbed the scouter. "Well the scouter definitely is a later model than the last one I looked at, I doubt the other one we got from Raditz was able to detect the Androids energies." She said as she looked at it with curiosity, then looked to the bracelet. "And this is something I've never seen before, but from what you told me I think it might be some kind of power transmitter?" She put her hand under her chin. "Ahhh this is just too hard." She said as she put the bracelet down and began taking it apart with her devices.

The Android decided to make a suggestion. "Perhaps it's best to look at the scouter first to find out if there are any more of these invaders."

Bulma facepalmed at that. "Of course, thank you 16." She said as she began to place wires into the scouter, then typed many keys to take a look into it. "Hmm it looks like they jammed the signal, hold on a minute." She said as she typed more, she supposes that this is what happens when a soldier get's taken out in battle. "Alright got it." She said, then she grabbed the scouter and put it to her ear, she then pressed the button. At first she heard nothing but static but then she began to hear voices.

"Yes sir, the scouts seemed to have taken care of, but I managed to get a hold of their numbers."

She couldn't hear another voice, probably because whoever's in charge didn't wear a scouter.

"Yes I managed to save the power levels their scouters picked up, it looks as though the Androids were more powerful then we anticipated."

A pause came as but Bulma remained quite hoping to hear anything else.

"Are you sure?" The voice said. "There may be no need, uh"

Another pause only this time a gulp can be heard.

"Yes my, lord, I-I'm sorry for questioning you, I' I'll send them right away."

And with that she stopped pressing the scouter and took the scouter off. "We're in trouble." She said as she looked to 16. "16 I need you to get 17 and 18, and bring them here please."

16 nodded his head. "Of course Bulma, I will be right back." He said as he walked up the stairs out of the lab.

Bulma then walked to her desk. "I better tell everyone that the party's off this time." She said as she typed up some letters.

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Android 17 was lying on the couch constantly channel surfing waiting for his sister to come home, normally he'd make a joke but he knows that now is not the time, his sister needs to be left alone right now.

Knock Knock

The Cyborg looked at the door and raised his eyebrow. "She has a key why bother knocking?" He asked then sighed knowing it's probably a visitor, he got up from his sofa and began walking to the door. He looked through the hole in the door and only sees a green armor like clothing, he smiled knowing who it is. The Cyborg opened the door. "Hey 16, miss us?"

Android 16 kept his stoic expression. "I did however now is not the time for catching up, we need to go get your sister."

17 shook his head. "Well I think it's best we leave her alone right now, she's not in the best of moods."

The robot shook his head. "The earth is in danger, we must regroup at Capsule Corporation."

The Cyborg sighed. "What is it now, another Android?" He asked getting fed up with Dr Gero's side projects.

"Negative, but it is something that we cannot ignore." 16 said walking out the door. "I know where 18 is I will explain on the way."

17 sighed knowing he and 16 may incur his sister's wrath, only she may get more violent all things considered, making the humor he normally enjoyed from it highly distasteful. "Alright, just don't get behind me when we find her." He joked walking out the door as well.

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Android 18 was in the middle of a grassy plain, all this time she spent time thinking and she still couldn't get an answer. The beautiful Cyborg groaned at this, she was never good with these kind of moments. Especially not now after everything. The Android turned and was about to fly home but when she looked up she sees something coming down. She narrowed her eyes at it, whatever it was it was coming at high speeds. 'Is that a meteor?' She asked as she watched the sphere going to a mountain she sees in the distance. The Cyborg raised her eyebrow at the meteor, she couldn't help but be curious at the object.

'Couldn't hurt to check.' She thought as she flew at high speeds for the strange meteor, she couldn't help but be curious about it. The enhanced human flew over the grassy plain close to the snowy mountain, she flew upward to get a better view, she looked left and right for it until she saw what looked like a large crater. 'There' She thought as she flew to the area.

18 landed in front of the crater and looked down into the pit. What she saw wasn't a meteor but a Saiyan space pod, from what she remember on her data on the Saiyan's attack on earth. "What is going on?" She asked as she waited for the pod to open to reveal whatever alien was in it, whoever or whatever it was she will not allow it to go unchecked, hopefully it's someone friendly, if not, she'll make sure whoever's in there wont hurt anyone.

The pod slowly started opening as 18 watched and waited.

A man of short stature walked out of the pod with a blue scouter on his face, he also had spikey hair with a few strands on his forehead. The man looked up to see a woman with platinum blonde hair, his scouter beeped at her.

18 decided now would be a good time to start asking questions. "Who are you?" She asked feeling unedged as the man glared at her, for some reason it reminded her of Trunks's or Vegeta's.

The alien floated upward until he was on the same level as 18. He clenched his teeth and fists at the sight of her. "Your one of the Androids aren't you?" He asked in a dangerous tone making 18 give a confounded look, his hair changed from black to gold, his eyes became emerald showing that he was a Super Saiyan.

18's eyes widened with surprise. 'Another Saiyan.' She thought with surprise, she narrowed not sure whether she could trust him or not. "Who are you?"

The man started powering up making his aura more violent. "My name is Tarble, and I will avenge my brother!" He made a battle cry as he charged at her.

TA-DA! Be honest, how many of you saw SSJ Tarble coming? Now I am pretty sure people in the reviews will question how he's a Super Saiyan if he's weak and dislikes fighting. Well you see, from what we know about Tarble in the special, he dislikes fighting, so I gave him a reason to fight. Let's just say that his story is much more tragic than it was there, and for good reason. Keep in mind guys, this is a completely different timeline, ALOT of things can happen here that didn't happen in the series. Or at least the T.V special, I honestly don't know if I would call it canon though, but I think his name was mentioned in Battle of Gods, which is canon so it probably is, IF his name was mentioned.

But when I was thinking of ways to continue this story in the short hiatus, I found myself in a situation where Tarble is a necessary character. I promise you guys there is a reason for Tarble becoming a Super Saiyan, for now though just wait and see.

Also I like to say this, any OCs I create in this story will be either destroyed in the chapter their in, or just not be part of any other chapters. I say this because I know some people who get annoyed by them in DBZ fanfics. This is why I said things will get a little dicey, so feel free to ask any questions and I will answer except for any spoilers.

And I apologize for anyone looking forward to a peacedul arc, I promise we'll get there, just wait and see. ;)

Now for review responses.

anonymous- Your confusion is easily understandable, this is a rather confusing story so I'm sure your not the only one who doesn't understand. I will try with the best of my ability to answer you, keep in mind though I make mistakes so if there's a flaw in my explanation then please tell me.

Ok so there's very little of what we know of this timeline, Trunks had gotten back during the Android saga in the UT (Unseen Timeline) not the MT (Main Timeline). In the UT it's the same as the MT except there is no Cell that traveled back in time, so Trunks had to have been able to find the blueprints to 17 and 18 from there, the big question is how? Well my friend shadowwriter01 has listed some possibilities of what may have happened in the review section.

I'll give you some possiblites. Perhaps Androids 13-15 awoke in that timeline and gave Trunks a reason to look in Dr Gero's lab to find any more Androids, and he found blueprints to 17 and 18's shut off switch there and managed to shut off 17 and 18. Or maybe Goku didn't see a reason to use the hyperbolic time chamber since the Androids weren't killing anyone unlike Cell and kept using instant transmission until the Bulma created the shut off switch or trained the regular way.

Bottom line. OT Trunks didn't have the hyperbolic time chamber training the future Trunks did in the series, otherwise imperfect Cell wouldn't have killed him. I don't think he or any of the saiyans needed it to become ASSJ, but a year in the hyperbolic time chamber is worth more than a year in the real world. I hope my explanation makes sense, if not then please let me know.

If it helps I listed the timelines in chapter 6, so see if it can help if your still confused, if it doesn't feel free to ask another question that you don't understand. I hope this was soon enough and you enjoyed the chapter.

Manwe0035- Thank you.

Guest- It's good to be back, I hope you enjoyed this chapter as well.

shadowwriter01- thank you, I try my best to get in every character's head.

Well I didn't entirely disagree I thought it was definitely possible. I'm just saying that I doubt 17 using his full power effectively would have made much of a difference, but that's just my opinion. I definitely agree what he said about Piccolo, he was NOT at full strength.

And you make good points as always, yes 13 probably only gained as much power as he was able to withstand. I wish I thought everything through. Lol.

Well for the sake of the story I am going to say that 13 was able to handle 50% of their power, I know even that maybe farfetched, but it's kinda too late to go back now. Lol.

Btw I'm interested to know your opinion on Tarble being a SSJ, whether you agree or disagree on it being possibile and why. I just hope I haven't ruined the story for you with this, I mean even I think that this is a little farfetched but I have managed to come up with a logical reasoning for it. So please give me your honest opinion. I will say I'm a little nervous.

Alright thank you so much for reading. I hope to see you guys in the next chapter. Have an awesome day. :)